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Kenneth_of_Borg
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Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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This is my first concept for the Romulan Outpost I. It is inspired by that seen in BOTF but for now is naked.
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| 02 Nov 2006, 13:04 |
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skeeter
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Joined: 22 Apr 2005, 01:00 Posts: 1527 Location: UK
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Not bad, but when ur done modeling it, you need to sort out the smoothing groups as in selet polys and make a smoothing group for sections where it needs it.
Also i can see that some verticies need to be welded together, you see them tiny black specks runnin on the left side of the bottom left pic, this shows that its not joined properly and the (dots/verticies) need to be welded together.
Overall looks nice. But basic. But it is your first model and for a first model its very nice.
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| 02 Nov 2006, 13:35 |
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TrashMan
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Joined: 09 Jun 2005, 01:00 Posts: 334 Location: On the bridge of the USS Apocalypse
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| 02 Nov 2006, 14:07 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
Ship Engineer
Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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| 02 Nov 2006, 14:36 |
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TrashMan
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| 02 Nov 2006, 14:50 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
Ship Engineer
Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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skeeter
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| 02 Nov 2006, 16:10 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
Ship Engineer
Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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| 02 Nov 2006, 20:03 |
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Matress_of_evil
Evil Romulan Overlord of Evil - Now 100% Faster!
Joined: 02 Dec 2004, 01:00 Posts: 7392 Location: Returned to the previous place.
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Cool, Kenneth. Like i've said, there's no rush. Don't submit it until you feel that it is as good as you can make it. You'll only regret it later on when everyone sees it!
...There's no harm in making screenies for us though... 
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Kenneth_of_Borg
Ship Engineer
Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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OK. No IOI please. I am looking for constructive advice though. This is my prototype skin job for the Romulan Outpost I. (my first skin job.) Outpost II would build on this with more complexity. Are the WarBird decals over the top or way cool? Is the green good against the black of space or should it be more olive drab? Is the skin to simple (I hope not because that is hell to line up on a shape like this)?
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| 09 Nov 2006, 01:59 |
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skeeter
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Joined: 22 Apr 2005, 01:00 Posts: 1527 Location: UK
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Well the emblem is way too big mate and you dont really need them unless you use it on a small section in the middle somewhere.
For your texture to develope you really should use some hull paneling. I might be able to help
http://eawnexus.gamingsource.net/forums ... wtopic=171
http://armada2.filefront.com/file/Textu ... lles;33431
http://www.members.lycos.nl/jonim8or/shiptex_tut.html
Use GIMP its free i think or cheap and using the aboves for reference and the filters in tutorial you should be able to creativly texture ur starbase. Use the romulan base from other games for reference as to how they might look and work from there.
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| 09 Nov 2006, 02:27 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
Ship Engineer
Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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Thanks and that is great. Texture is the next item on my list and the links look tiptop. Up to here it has been the struggle to learn the tools more than actually building the ship. GIMP is free but it makes me feel like a gimp just trying to get it to work.
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| 09 Nov 2006, 03:08 |
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TrashMan
Ship Engineer
Joined: 09 Jun 2005, 01:00 Posts: 334 Location: On the bridge of the USS Apocalypse
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| 09 Nov 2006, 11:04 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
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Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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| 09 Nov 2006, 20:46 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
Ship Engineer
Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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Does it look more like an Outpost with a core and big balls?
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| 09 Nov 2006, 23:57 |
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skeeter
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Joined: 22 Apr 2005, 01:00 Posts: 1527 Location: UK
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Lol..
Ok erm first thing i can see that is bit weird is the gap size between top and bottom section, the sides are too long from bottom to top so erm squash it down so its about warbird gap size or just under.
These "balls" are too far from the main hub of the station so instead of that put them on much smaller extensions so there closer to the main hull. Also make some spikes and use em as antenna somewhere, either on very top or very bottom.
Give that ago and redo a pic.
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Actually just remove the balls and keep them spires. I think they will be good like that without the balls i mean.
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| 10 Nov 2006, 00:28 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
Ship Engineer
Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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Sure and yes on all points. I can start a new thread for the rest of this.
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| 10 Nov 2006, 00:52 |
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Matress_of_evil
Evil Romulan Overlord of Evil - Now 100% Faster!
Joined: 02 Dec 2004, 01:00 Posts: 7392 Location: Returned to the previous place.
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Here you go, Kenneth, I split the thread for you and removed all the comments about spam etc. 
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| 10 Nov 2006, 17:30 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
Ship Engineer
Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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Thank you. This is great. Sorry I did not get back to you sooner. I am on the road and on my laptop at a professional conference in Phoenix. - More work on the outposts soon. 
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| 12 Nov 2006, 03:46 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
Ship Engineer
Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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Outpost II
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Matress_of_evil
Evil Romulan Overlord of Evil - Now 100% Faster!
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Yikes! That thing looks lethal! 
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| 13 Nov 2006, 01:04 |
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skeeter
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Joined: 22 Apr 2005, 01:00 Posts: 1527 Location: UK
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Some suggestions.
1. Remove the poles or rearrange them and scale them down.
2. Add in a central squashed spherical hub in center. (habitat area)
3. Keep design simple and effective think realistically what design needs and uses and build it, dont build anything flashy as this detail can be added in textures later.
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| 13 Nov 2006, 01:24 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
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Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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Those were very good suggestions. By reducing the size of the antenna in the top cluster it creates a forced perspective impression of greater size. The lines have been cleaned up and there is a central core connecting the top and bottom main section of the outposts. I wanted it to look like both Outpost One and Outpost Two are built on the same basic frame but with Numero Dos a definite upgrade over Uno, (Uno - Dos - that is Star Tech Talk.)
Outpost I Romulan
Outpost II Romulan
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| 14 Nov 2006, 03:28 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
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Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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Now all I have to do is figure out how to skin the basterds! 
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mstrobel
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| 14 Nov 2006, 04:06 |
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skeeter
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| 14 Nov 2006, 04:23 |
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TrashMan
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Joined: 09 Jun 2005, 01:00 Posts: 334 Location: On the bridge of the USS Apocalypse
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| 15 Nov 2006, 11:16 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
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Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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Kenneth_of_Borg
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Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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Kenneth_of_Borg
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Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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