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| Author: | Kenneth_of_Borg [ 12 Feb 2011, 04:31 ] |
| Post subject: | Major Race Video Intro |
We have a new voice actor working on the Klingon intro. In order to take advantage of his service let me start a discussion on the Federation intro. here is the original version. What, if anything should we change to update it? What sort of video you we want to see? Please help -- To keep things easy to find here is most of the stuff in post 1 of the topic. Klingon Intro http://www.mediafire.com/?m1a62gxr2uas9ot Done, approved and being added to intro Klingon ingame http://www.mediafire.com/?ecnsaa34kqjz0klDone Done Federation Intro http://www.mediafire.com/?0b822afw5gg8wi9 Done, approved and being added to intro Federation ingame http://www.mediafire.com/?tvrnei4gy3ton3u Done Cardassians Intro http://www.mediafire.com/?ombbe68ja0iy19j added line 5, waiting approval (1-4 as far as I know approved) Cardassians ingame waiting for final approval of intro then will begin working on these Romulans Intro http://www.mediafire.com/?2mkqipp8ey1qngy I thought this was approved awaiting confirmation Romulans ingame awaiting approval of intro before I begin. Dominion intro and ingame awaiting final approval on which lines to record. It seems we are still discussing this? If there is a final decision please let me know. This is where I am so far on voices... |
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| Author: | Kenneth_of_Borg [ 12 Feb 2011, 14:25 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Major Race Video Intro |
Original: "Always remember that expansion is achieved by diplomacy not by the military. Starfleet’s mission is to preserve the peace. Our ships are not intended to start wars but to end them. We attack only as a last resort." What about this: The Federation can achieve rapid expansion by incorporating new worlds through diplomacy. Actively recruit new members. Starfleet's mission is to preserve the peace and protect Federation members. Attack only when diplomacy will not do. |
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| Author: | vjeko1701 [ 12 Feb 2011, 15:41 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Major Race Video Intro |
Suggestion: Attack only when diplomacy fails. |
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| Author: | Kenneth_of_Borg [ 12 Feb 2011, 16:52 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Major Race Video Intro |
Thanks The Federation can rapidly expand by incorporating new worlds through diplomacy. Actively recruit new members from the races you meet. Starfleet's mission is to preserve the peace and protect Federation members. Attack only when diplomacy fails 
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| Author: | Kenneth_of_Borg [ 12 Feb 2011, 20:42 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Major Race Video Intro |
Here is the Cardassian intro: Youtube Control is the only thing that matters. Methods are not important. Efficiency is what counts in the end. Exploit that you conquer, for in the struggle for survival every resource is critical. History is written by the victors. Something like this? In Cardassia the ends justify the means. Methods are not important. Efficiency is our tool for dominance. Exploit the worlds you conquer. Their resources bring victory and with victory you will write the history. |
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| Author: | vjeko1701 [ 12 Feb 2011, 23:16 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Major Race Video Intro |
Not bad, just add some smug sense of superiority. Notes for the Dominion one, end with: Always rember: Obedience brings victory and victory is life! |
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| Author: | Matress_of_evil [ 13 Feb 2011, 00:00 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Major Race Video Intro |
I assume the new voice actor is BlazeLeeDragon? He seems like a talented guy. Ask him to come up with his own stuff as well, he might have some ideas. I'm not sure how much he knows about Star Trek because I never asked him, but the original BOTF intros will certainly give him an idea of what we're looking for. But basically: Federation: peaceful, optimistic, explorers and expansionists Klingons: honourable warriors with a thirst for glorious battle Romulans: enigmatic, mysterious, xenophobic, and imperialists Cardassians: rigid, sneering, militaristic and self-important Dominion: god-fearing, misdirecting, fanatics |
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| Author: | Kenneth_of_Borg [ 13 Feb 2011, 01:41 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Major Race Video Intro |
MOE, would you suggest the full text for the Dominion intro? Blaze will need some background on the Dominion if he has not seen them before. Here is a youtube video where you can see a female Founder and a male Vorta of the Dominion. It should give you some idea about the voice and presentation of these two races. I would say do Vorta. The founders are not often see. here Something like this for the Cards? In Cardassia the end justifies the means. Methods are not important. Efficiency is our tool for dominance. Exploit the worlds you conquer. Their resources bring victory. When we are victorious, and we will be victorious, we will write history. What would you do for video in the Card intro? |
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| Author: | Kenneth_of_Borg [ 13 Feb 2011, 14:06 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Major Race Video Intro |
Here is a link to the Ferengi intro. Would the Dominion sound like this? Vorta speaks: Founder, we live to serve you. Provide us resources and technology so we may defeat your enemies. Your humble servants, the Vorta and Jem Hadar, are always devoted. Make alliance or make war, we live to obey your commands. Always remember: Obedience brings victory and victory is life! What would the video look like? |
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| Author: | vjeko1701 [ 13 Feb 2011, 14:37 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Major Race Video Intro |
Hmmm, I have a video suggestion for the feds The Federation can rapidly expand by incorporating new worlds through diplomacy. NX class leaving orbit of Earth - cut- In orbit of Vulcan - salute to ST Enterprise Actively recruit new members from the races you meet. Constitution class, Miranda class and a few minor race ships (Andorian, Xindi...) Starfleet's mission is to preserve the peace and protect Federation members. Federation flag over a M class planet. Attack only when diplomacy fails Fedearation fleet - late TNG era closing to a Desert planet. Doms: Vorta speaks: Founder, we live to serve you. Omarion Nebula and the founder's homeworld Provide us resources and technology so we may defeat your enemies. dominion ship diagram overlayed over three ship of the same type flying trough space Your humble servants, the Vorta and Jem Hadar, are always devoted. Jem'Hadar and a Vorta (we would need to build models) fading first in and then out over an animation of the Great link (I've made an image of it - I can try to animate it.) Make alliance or make war, we live to obey your commands. Dominion fleet over an oceanic planet Always remember: Obedience brings victory and victory is life! Dominion insignia or flag over the galaxy |
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| Author: | Kenneth_of_Borg [ 13 Feb 2011, 16:30 ] | ||
| Post subject: | Re: Major Race Video Intro | ||
Thanks, those videos will look nice. I will have to look at a Vorta and Jem Hadar model. We will see what MOE comes up with.
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| Author: | Kenneth_of_Borg [ 14 Feb 2011, 14:48 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Major Race Video Intro |
Based on what MOE suggested here is a Dominion Intro Revised: Vorta speaks: Founder, we live to serve you. Video: Omarion Nebula and the founder's homeworld Vorta speaks: Provide us resources and technology so we may defeat your enemies. Video: dominion ship diagram overlaid over three ship of the same type flying trough space Vorta speaks: Your humble servants, the Vorta and Jem Hadar, are always devoted. Video: Jem'Hadar and a Vorta (we would need to build models) fading first in and then out over an animation of the Great link (I've made an image of it - I can try to animate it.) Vorta speaks: Make alliance or make war, we live to obey your commands. Video: Dominion fleet over an oceanic planet Vorta speaks: Founder, your god-like changeling ability will serve our cause well. Use espionage where warfare will not do. Video: Dominion espionage window with user actions. Vorta speaks: Always remember: Obedience brings victory and victory is life! Video: Dominion insignia or flag over the galaxy Something like this for the Cards? In Cardassia the end justifies the means. Methods are not important. The Obsidian Order is an efficient tool of espionage. Use it to full advantage for dominance. Video: Cardassian espionage user interface with user actions Exploit the worlds you conquer. Their resources bring victory. When we are victorious, and we will be victorious, you will write history. What else would you do for video in the Card intro? |
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| Author: | Kenneth_of_Borg [ 15 Feb 2011, 15:41 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Major Race Video Intro |
Another issue we have to address is the size of the video files. For example in this YouTube version of the Klingon special effects shot from Star Trek the Movie it takes 14 seconds for the camera to pan down from horizontal to vertical down on the Klingon D9. If I run my video at 25 frames per second that is already 350 images at say 1920 x 1080. I am thinking we will need to run the audio without any long pauses over fewer seconds of video. In so doing we will be limited in the number of video sequences it is practical to show. I am going to look at shotting the video as a faster paced action shot of the ships headed to the M class planet. That film, Star Trek the Motion Picture, was one of the slow paced science fiction awe and wonder school. You could start that film for five minutes then go wash your car, have dinner and use the toilet without missing out on the story line when you got back. I think the faster pace of the Dominion wars and JJ's Star Trek is what people will appreciate in our short videos. |
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| Author: | vjeko1701 [ 15 Feb 2011, 17:04 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Major Race Video Intro |
Well what I had in mind are dynamic, fast and breath taking shots. Just make the elements, I'll try to make them quick and dynamic. If I fail, I have some friends with more experience that can take a shot at it. |
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| Author: | Kenneth_of_Borg [ 15 Feb 2011, 18:58 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Major Race Video Intro |
Sounds good Q'apla!
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| Author: | Kenneth_of_Borg [ 16 Feb 2011, 01:08 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Major Race Video Intro |
Mike got back to me on Intros. He wants them to give a feel for the race but skip the part about race stratagem. Matress was right in the first place AGAIN. Bother said Pooh. So more like this: Revisions Klingon main theme music plays Video: Fire and Klingon emblem overlay melds to Klingon fleet moving towards an M class planet, a bit blurred and semi transparent. Voice actor: The Klingons are a race of warriors. Never forget that. Make allies if you must but only if they are worthy. Klingons fight with honor. Video: Cut to Animated Klingon diplomacy window, animated in a sense that the ships are moving and window shows other user actions Voice Actor: Through hard times and fierce battle rise our flag. Defend the empire for the honor of your house. What a Klingon defended with blood is not given away. Q'apla! Video: Cut to Q'onos and Praxis orbiting + a semi transparent Klingon flag waving with Klingon overlay in one sequence |
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| Author: | Matress_of_evil [ 16 Feb 2011, 17:40 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Major Race Video Intro |
You expected otherwise? 
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| Author: | vjeko1701 [ 16 Feb 2011, 20:00 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Major Race Video Intro |
And please recreate my favorite scene from TMP with the three D7 class cruisers (just the part when they are approaching the camera) I would love to see it in our video. NOTE: Music- in that part of the video we could add just a few tones from the original TMP soundtrack, something like in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJZbCNexctc (from 0:26 to 0:46, except our would be shorter) |
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| Author: | Kenneth_of_Borg [ 16 Feb 2011, 22:24 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Major Race Video Intro |
Great minds think alike. I hope to open with just that but it will quickly pick up pace in keeping with our time constraints. I am learning how to blow $()!# up in blender and hope to put some of that in as well. Oh we are saved. Let's give war a chance.
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| Author: | BlazeLeeDragon [ 17 Feb 2011, 00:30 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Major Race Video Intro |
Greetings, I am said voice actor and this is what I've done so far for the Klingon intro, suggests are welcome  I know I have three lines, but these where the originals ones I read, and besides they are in part since part two was the only one cutt out it's easy to just take part 1 and 3 still I would like it heard. My wife thinks it sounds like Worf! not sure about that but hey it's definitally Klingon  Video: Fire and Klingon emblem overlay melds to Klingon fleet moving toward an M class planet, a bit blurred and semi transparent. Voice actor: The Klingons are a race of warriors. Never forget that. Make allies if you must but only if they are worthy. Klingons fight with honor. Video: Cut to Animated Klingon diplomacy window, animated in a sense that the ships are moving and window shows other user actions Voice Actor: Through hard times and fierce battle rise our flag. Defend the empire for the honor of your house. What a Klingon defended with blood is not given away. Q'apla! Video: Cut to Q'onos and Praxis orbiting + a semi transparent Klingon flag waving with Klingon overlay in one sequence. Part 1 http://www.mediafire.com/?t7343w6kwhwtl1a Part 2 http://www.mediafire.com/?s7hx4znhy4hk9xj Part 3 http://www.mediafire.com/?kapbno7cgzx3ohz I assume this is how you post to this forum? if not if you know away to attach I'm all ears... |
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| Author: | Kenneth_of_Borg [ 17 Feb 2011, 01:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Major Race Video Intro |
Very good and welcome to your first forum post Blaze. Blaze is our new voice actor and he has been working on some recordings for the game. When I do Klingon it needs a lot of post production to get the sound. In the end you can tell it has been electronically altered. This is a natural Klingon sound. It is also not over done as you can hear with the Star Trek Online Klingon trailer. I will save these and run it with my animation soon enough. Thanks for cutting it up that way as well. We may use the middle line yet. My bad, that was a typo. It should be 'raise the flag' and not 'rise the flag.' Now that we have a talent like Blaze I am hopping for more suggestion on our Major Race intro lines. We will need to have something recorded for the videos.
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| Author: | BlazeLeeDragon [ 17 Feb 2011, 01:50 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Major Race Video Intro |
sounds good and thank you for the kind words. yeah that is an un altered voice, quality is good, recorded with my "blue" snowball mic. did you want me to redo the last line? I can, I actually kinda like the typo  but your call let me know what you need
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| Author: | Kenneth_of_Borg [ 17 Feb 2011, 02:01 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Major Race Video Intro |
I also considered for a time that it could be a Klingon phraseology. Unfortunately it is not like a Yoda thing. There is no example of it in the Star Trek Universe. When you have the time to redo it I will save both renditions on SharePoint. Any suggestions for rewrites are, as you can see, a good idea.
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| Author: | vjeko1701 [ 17 Feb 2011, 13:29 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Major Race Video Intro |
Wow, excellent, I can already see (well hear actually) it in our video. Just one more thing, can you rerecord Q'apla, but in a way that sounds like Kpla (short and harsh K and then the pla) I can then replace it with the current one without you having to rerecord the entire line. Also, a bit later in the development we will probably need a klingon voice for the interface and battle's. Klingon acknowledgments (Dah), orders... Also, rise the flag may not make sense in English, but it does make sense in other Earth languages like my (Croatian) for example. Why shouldn't it make sense in Klingon(I know it's English and not Klingon in the video, but if a Klingon were to speak English he might translate some stuff too literally) I am for keeping it this way. Welcome to the team. Q'apla! |
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| Author: | Malvoisin [ 17 Feb 2011, 13:45 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Major Race Video Intro |
uploading it as zipped file using "Upload attachment" when posting a message here should work. Or is there a file size limit? |
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| Author: | vjeko1701 [ 17 Feb 2011, 13:50 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Major Race Video Intro |
There is a limit, I just don't know what it is. |
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| Author: | Kenneth_of_Borg [ 17 Feb 2011, 16:21 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Major Race Video Intro |
The Klingon language institute may be helpful at some point. http://www.kli.org/tlh/ If Mike is OK with rise so am I. I will run it in the animation and see if they salute.
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| Author: | Matress_of_evil [ 17 Feb 2011, 20:15 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Major Race Video Intro |
Wow Blaze, you make a brilliant Klingon! As Vjeko said, the Qa'pla isn't exactly right though. It's pronounced kuh-plagh rather than quah-pla. Sorry about the mental image this will probably give you, but it needs a bit of phlegm to pronounce it right.  Here's a short video that might also help: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v0emSvJPGE Try the suggested videos down the side of the page as well. It might provide you with inspiration for future Klingon audio recordings. |
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| Author: | Kenneth_of_Borg [ 19 Feb 2011, 17:08 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Major Race Video Intro |
Here, on YouTube, is a mockup of what I have in mind for the Klingon Intro. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osUmzMyoI0I Speical thanks to the Sons of Kahless Glee Club
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| Author: | Matress_of_evil [ 19 Feb 2011, 23:47 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Major Race Video Intro |
I saw the link you posted to it on Facebook just now, Kenneth. It's a brilliant intro video. The only thing that could make it better is perhaps having the B'rels uncloak just as they first appear on the screen, because you can't see them at the start when the three K'tinga's are there but the B'rels suddenly appear from behind them. An uncloaking effect would make it look cooler and explain the little discrepancy. |
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