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jigalypuff
Jig of the Puff
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| 24 Oct 2004, 22:38 |
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iwulff
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_________________ "Logic is the beginning of wisdom; not the end." -- Spock (Star Trek VI)
Q: The trial never ended. We never reached a verdict. But now we have. You're guilty. Picard: Guilty of what? Q:Of being inferior.
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| 25 Oct 2004, 08:11 |
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jigalypuff
Jig of the Puff
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| 25 Oct 2004, 13:31 |
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iwulff
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We already were discussing ealier that the NX01 and the NX02 are the same type of vessel namely the NX class, this is because they look the same. But i think that the Columbia in Enterprise just was a upgrade version of the NX01.
So my next comment is a bit dumb. But if you buy a ships at a shipyard then it will have the latest updates right? So this means that they will be more expansive to buy. But what if you have say a nebula, then you won't have the specific upgrades? Or will these not make it in the game? 
_________________ "Logic is the beginning of wisdom; not the end." -- Spock (Star Trek VI)
Q: The trial never ended. We never reached a verdict. But now we have. You're guilty. Picard: Guilty of what? Q:Of being inferior.
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| 28 Oct 2004, 08:32 |
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jigalypuff
Jig of the Puff
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ok the NX designation is used only for prototypes. so the NX-01 is a different ship to the NX-02, as updates become available for ships the newly built ships will have them, i believe we wanted those without these updates to have to go to a shipyard for refitting?
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| 28 Oct 2004, 11:57 |
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iwulff
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Joined: 18 Sep 2004, 01:00 Posts: 884 Location: Germany
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Does anyone here has every seen a NX02?  Just place a screenshot here. 
_________________ "Logic is the beginning of wisdom; not the end." -- Spock (Star Trek VI)
Q: The trial never ended. We never reached a verdict. But now we have. You're guilty. Picard: Guilty of what? Q:Of being inferior.
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| 28 Oct 2004, 12:24 |
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SonOfMogh
Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 20 Sep 2004, 01:00 Posts: 690 Location: UK
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_________________ Who says there's never a Klingon around when you need one.
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| 29 Oct 2004, 16:37 |
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STHedgeHog
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Joined: 17 Sep 2004, 01:00 Posts: 139 Location: Kent, UK.
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| 29 Oct 2004, 17:17 |
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marky
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Joined: 05 Oct 2004, 01:00 Posts: 77 Location: Starfleet Command
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i agree with hedgy
Brel - IN
Kvort - IN
Dtai - in = according to my sources its called Dtai but ill do sum more research and try and confirm it
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| 30 Oct 2004, 04:26 |
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SonOfMogh
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Sounds reasonable, I know I'll mod the big one out though.
Just so you know. The exact same bit of footage was used for both the k'vort and b'rel class. Therefore they must be the same size. B'rel was only used in the rascals episode, commandeered by the ferengi. It was the footage from yesterdays ent- in which it was called the k'vort.
In the movies they never used a class name, until the d-12, which I'd speculate was smaller, rotarran size.
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| 30 Oct 2004, 17:49 |
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iwulff
Fleet Admiral
Joined: 18 Sep 2004, 01:00 Posts: 884 Location: Germany
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Hi, i'm back! Friday night there was this storm, and suddenly it hit my house. What do you think? The entire ISDN stuff with fax and tel were  . So i couldn't post or be on this website for TWO days! 8O
Anyway back on topic:
The K'Vort is the larger version of the B'rell. It was build because of the succes of the B'rell, and to make a fast a deadly ship. That is why, this ship should be in, and should be bigger, because it isn't a upgrade of the B'rell, it is a new ship.
_________________ "Logic is the beginning of wisdom; not the end." -- Spock (Star Trek VI)
Q: The trial never ended. We never reached a verdict. But now we have. You're guilty. Picard: Guilty of what? Q:Of being inferior.
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SonOfMogh
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Welcome back iwulff.
You might have missed my previous post which explains why the k'vort b'rel issue is wrong. The only time they've been given those descriptions are in the encyclopedia, which is wrong more than it's right.
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| 01 Nov 2004, 09:36 |
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iwulff
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Still we've seen a larger Bird of prey then the B'rell version in DS9. Why not call this one the K'Vort, i actually like the name and it's model. Besides they were also in the CCG cardgame of Decypher  .
Liked your idea about the Galaxy-X. Because it IS a upgrade version in StarTrek. I though i tried that in BOTF? 
_________________ "Logic is the beginning of wisdom; not the end." -- Spock (Star Trek VI)
Q: The trial never ended. We never reached a verdict. But now we have. You're guilty. Picard: Guilty of what? Q:Of being inferior.
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| 01 Nov 2004, 09:41 |
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SonOfMogh
Lieutenant Commander
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Even though they are the same size in canon, the 2 designations work well for small and large in the game. There was never a big bop in ds9 as by then they had the vor'cha, so the bop could act as a small ship as was intended.
My only qualm is the ridiculous upscaling. Imagine if the air force said, "due to the incredible success of the f-14 fighter, we are making all jumbo jets look exactly like the f-14 but 10 times the size". Now that would be stupid. The bop model doesn't have enough weapons to cover a ship that size.
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| 01 Nov 2004, 09:49 |
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iwulff
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We already have a small amount of Klingon vessels, why not add a ships which has had a appearance in StarTrek? I mean we could make it a bit smaller, but perhaps twice as big as a B'Rell?
_________________ "Logic is the beginning of wisdom; not the end." -- Spock (Star Trek VI)
Q: The trial never ended. We never reached a verdict. But now we have. You're guilty. Picard: Guilty of what? Q:Of being inferior.
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| 01 Nov 2004, 09:51 |
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SonOfMogh
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There would never ever be an instance where a large ship would look exactly like a small one- even so far as the same scale windows!
However, it is a canon ship at around 350 metres, so if it's in it should be that size. It will be up to the individual modder whether they keep it in. I kinda wish they'd just used the battlecruiser in the show, but they probably felt that model was too old.
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| 01 Nov 2004, 10:46 |
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SonOfMogh
Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 20 Sep 2004, 01:00 Posts: 690 Location: UK
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QUICK BATTLE
This idea is a long way off, but when the 3d combat is ready there should be a quick battle mode to see how ships stack up to one another. I'd rarely use it out of enjoyment, but it would be ideal for testing new mods in battle with similar ships, or for anyone who merely wants to edit the shiplist.
I guess there's little point until the combat side is ready as I understand the interim measure will be flat, meaning ships won't have any use for their dorsal/ventral weapons. The ships will have to be rebalanced anyway once the combat is ready.
This would be useful for rebalancing later though, I know I've made ships way too weak/powerful in the past and not realised until playing.[/b]
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| 01 Nov 2004, 12:14 |
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iwulff
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Joined: 18 Sep 2004, 01:00 Posts: 884 Location: Germany
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When you have researched the quantum torpedo, will it then be possible to upgrade with, say a excelsior, to replace there old photon torpedoes with quantium's?
Photon torpedoes, are less expensive in resources
5 Credits
2 raw materials
Quantium torpedoes, are ofcourse more.
10 Credits
4 raw materials
Something like that perhaos?
_________________ "Logic is the beginning of wisdom; not the end." -- Spock (Star Trek VI)
Q: The trial never ended. We never reached a verdict. But now we have. You're guilty. Picard: Guilty of what? Q:Of being inferior.
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SonOfMogh
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| 02 Nov 2004, 13:12 |
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iwulff
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_________________ "Logic is the beginning of wisdom; not the end." -- Spock (Star Trek VI)
Q: The trial never ended. We never reached a verdict. But now we have. You're guilty. Picard: Guilty of what? Q:Of being inferior.
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SonOfMogh
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_________________ Who says there's never a Klingon around when you need one.
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| 02 Nov 2004, 15:56 |
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iwulff
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_________________ "Logic is the beginning of wisdom; not the end." -- Spock (Star Trek VI)
Q: The trial never ended. We never reached a verdict. But now we have. You're guilty. Picard: Guilty of what? Q:Of being inferior.
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SonOfMogh
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iwulff
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_________________ "Logic is the beginning of wisdom; not the end." -- Spock (Star Trek VI)
Q: The trial never ended. We never reached a verdict. But now we have. You're guilty. Picard: Guilty of what? Q:Of being inferior.
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SonOfMogh
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| 02 Nov 2004, 16:45 |
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iwulff
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_________________ "Logic is the beginning of wisdom; not the end." -- Spock (Star Trek VI)
Q: The trial never ended. We never reached a verdict. But now we have. You're guilty. Picard: Guilty of what? Q:Of being inferior.
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SonOfMogh
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| 02 Nov 2004, 16:59 |
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iwulff
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_________________ "Logic is the beginning of wisdom; not the end." -- Spock (Star Trek VI)
Q: The trial never ended. We never reached a verdict. But now we have. You're guilty. Picard: Guilty of what? Q:Of being inferior.
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| 03 Nov 2004, 09:40 |
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SonOfMogh
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iwulff
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_________________ "Logic is the beginning of wisdom; not the end." -- Spock (Star Trek VI)
Q: The trial never ended. We never reached a verdict. But now we have. You're guilty. Picard: Guilty of what? Q:Of being inferior.
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