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Thanks for the welcome ;)

And sorry for my english, I miss practicing (I'm french).

What I mean for the tech tree :
I've red several of the first pages of this topic, and see there was no armed opposition so far ; so in the tech tree, I've put the weapon research to 0%. But at the lvl 5 or so far of all the other trees, I've seen that nothing or so was newly buildable ; so I've just put the weapon tree back on in order to reach lvl 2. And then, a lot of new things came to ... and lvl 3 too.
So ! if I want to make -let's imagine it !- a civilization based on non violent behavior, without weapon (yup, I'm an idealist ;)), at this time, I can't access even the first level hospital ship (or there is another combination to reach it, but it might be more than that I've done), nor the 2nd and 3st lvl of basic buildings. I think it's somehow a pity ... but it's my own opinion ^^


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Welcome Ghost Line. We are glad to hear the feedback on the game.

How is your spoken English? We are looking for help with a number of projects. One of these is recording dialog for the game. We need a lot of different voices. There are different personalities in each of the major races and some 145 minor races. For more information look here.

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I will be on the road and off-line starting tomorrow and through to next week. I will try to answer any questions when I return if someone here can not help you.


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Oh, now I understand you. Yes, this is something that is going to be addressed in future - afterall, it's stupid that you need weapons to upgrade a farm. :lol:

I've actually made some small changes that are in the latest version of Supremacy that removed some of these stupid requirements, but if you've only ever played the most recent version then you won't notice this difference. :P

If you ever have trouble understanding what I say, feel free to ask me to rephrase it. I find is useful as well. :wink:


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kenneth> my spoken english might not be that bad ^^ I've just little problems in sentences construction, but if it's just reading a text, it might be ok. I've definitly to take a look at your links ^^

Matress> ok, it explains a lot :mrgreen: and when I find a word I can't seem to understand, I've other methods that Babelfish ... reading and writing on forum (sing. : fora . I love this one ^^) is a way like another to learn an everyday english, no ? ;)

PS : I don't use an automated translator to write on forum ... if you try to translate this literally in french, it might be a mess ^^


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hi everybody .My first post .Ive been reading the forums and looking at screens shots ect and im LOVIN it.ive been playing botf for about 6 years and given up hope of a "full finished " version of the game.anyway to cut a long story short i downloaded supremacy and i cant leave it alone i love it im driving the wife and cats mad!! i cant imagine how much work is involved you guys must be really pulling your tripe out. Mike you should be knighted or made king of the world or SOMETHING! for the work your doing.I hope im posting this in the right place btw im new to this im not exactly a silver surfer ( more eggshell blonde) but im a bit lacking in compter skills but willing to learn.Anyway ive met a few problems ive a few ideas and a few questions which ill post about later. thanks again Mike (aka king of the world) and the rest of you .!!LOVIN IT


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Wow. Glad you're liking the game, carcher! :P

Yes this is the right place to post - but don't worry if it wasn't, we're pretty easy going on noobs - unlike some other forums I know of. (X-Wars) :evil:

If you have any problems, post them here and we'll do our best to solve the problem. We'd love to hear any ideas that you - or anyone else - has as well. Whilst these projects are being headed and largely made by individuals, they are still a community effort, and would not be what they are today without that community input. Feedback and ideas are the best way to ensure the game(s) end up working the way that you want them to. :thumbsup:

Welcome to the forums. :)


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thanks for the welcome MOE . I must admit i feel a little bit guilty about not posting my thoughts on the game sooner ,ive had so much pleasure out of suprenacy its unreal .Im afraid i cant contribute much as far as programing is concerend (spelt that wrong!) but if you need someone to do any testing i have the time (about 3-4 hours after work on weekdays) and the inclination to test its ass off. Ive had few probs so far ,the biggest one is the flickering sumery window when in the main screen.Another minor prob is that in sol system one unit of the work force seems to go skiving off into the labour pool every turn (no big deal to me but i dont know if this type of info is useful to you).Things i love -well..... the ui.. the waypoints..the way you can load the build list.. the ENORMOUS map..the ship refuelling/range .All good stuff ! keep it comming PLEASE.Im going to bed now - I am knackered ! I ll post again tomoz when i get home


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Hmm...those are bugs i'm not familiar with, unless by 'flickering sumery window' you mean the relatively rare bug where the main menu ends up covering the clickable buttons before you've even started playing the game. (But it sounds like that's not what you're referring to)

Since i've not heard of these, you'll have to wait and see what Mike says about the problems. If the game ever crashes on you or you get any error message though, (God forbid) please post about them here as well. If the game crashes, it *should* create a report about why it happened in a file called 'error.txt', which you can find in your main Supremacy folder. (Wherever you saved it) Just copy-and-paste the entire contents of that file (Or attach the file to a post) so that Mike can see what the problem is.


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Hi Mike thanks for the post.I tried the hotfix - no luck! but not to worry i can live with it.Re my labour force prob, i'm sure i was up to max pop when it was happening (turn 80 or so) but it's not happening tonight, so maybe you're right, i'll keep my eye on it.Anyway,a few questions if you don't mind.(i know you must be busy!).Are you planning on having a drop down summary window in the system screen? with a list of the system builds,moral an food etc?I think this would make empire managent much easier for the player.how about a grid ref nunber in the system screen to make it easier to find the said system on the main map?One last thing ,for now, in the future when starting at the higher tech level,how about having one or two minor races in your chosen empire?Or would this affect the game balance ? Anyway i think i've bent you'r ears-eyes ? whatever - enough for one night.Cheers ,over and out Kev.Opps!! Carcher.


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Hello mattress,thanks for the post.I had a crash a couple of days ago but theres nothing in the error file -which is a bit of a bugger-but i would'nt know how to post it here anyway!(computer,me, dingbat!)Now i dont want you guys workin' on the game to spend your valuable time wet nursing me,(i want you working on THE GAME!!).But seriously if someone in the community could explain it to me , i'd be very grateful.Also how the hell do you take a screen shot? thanks in advance.Cheers all


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Thanks Mattress appreciate the help.


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Matress is a little verbose :lol:

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Hi folks,

I'm a newbie here, huge fan of BotF but as well all know it could be better. So after finally getting the Supremacy download link to work I started it up and am very impressed. I do have a problem though.

On turn 15, my Gigabyte software starts up telling me that I've just plugged in a microphone (which I didn't), and after I close that down Supremacy starts going whacky - the interface doesn't like responding and the graphics start swapping and changing all over the place. I tried to get it to work with a fresh second game, but the same thing happened. I also saved it the second time and re-loaded at which point the graphics were fine, but the game refused to go past the 'load pre-turn information' stage when the 'end turn' button is pressed.

Just thought I'd let you know of this in case you didn't already know.

Otherwise many thanks for the amazing work so far.


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I downloaded the graphical performance Hotfix last night and ,as i posted ,it did'nt work ( i'd shutdown and restarted )I played a few turns of the saved game tonight,then decided to load a new game,and be really meticulous-in taking note of anything that may be of use to Mike and the Supremacy team. Guess what ....the hotfix is now working -i'm over the moon-the main screen looked great before,it now looks FANTASTIC!!. Thanks Mike (aka king of the world!)
Anyway at turn 8 of the new game i got a strange message -"comunications grid constructed in sector Avenal". the galaxy settings were- large,irreguler,dense(not me!),dense (stop laughing!)and many.i've no other system showing in the main screen(i hav'nt even built a ship yet)The error file is empty-as you'd expect,and i do'nt think it's a "hangover" from my previous game.
MOE thanks again for the detailed info last night. I made a short reply 'cause i was about to turn in for the night - i'd had a few wine gums-ya know? I'll get back to the game now , and see what my "ghost" system gets upto.


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Almost forgot! Mattress -i do'nt think you'r very verbose,i think you'r a very nice man - a very very nice man-a very very very nice -helpful man.Mind you i am a noobie! Only joking . Ta very much mate.


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While I've been on the website for a couple of months now, this is my first post on the forum. I like how Supremacy is coming along. I am making this post to point out a few of the problems that I've seen.

1.) As a die-hard Romulan, I feel the need to point out that a.) the homeworld is Romulus, and b.) if you can watch Nemesis and say the Remus is an M-class planet, lay off the ganja; it's J-class, easily.

2.) The "Mintaka" system is called Mintakans ( :?: ) and inhabited by humans ( :!: ). Just putting it out there.

3.) The Omarian Nebula (as the founder homeworld, other instances seem fine) reads Omarian Nebula Nebula.

I shall, of(f) course, point out any other inconsistancies that I find, as that is my nature. Nonetheless, a well done program and a worthy sequal to BOTF.

MK


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Hey mknote, welcome to the forums. :)

The problems that you've noted are extremely easy to solve - they only require minor edits in the editor. I can even show you how to do them if you want. (I've learned my lesson from my last posts, i'll ask you first hehe)

The human inhabitants mistake is a hangover from a recent bug - if you look hard enough, you'll find that there are other races suffering from the same problem. This again is easily fixed in the editor, it's just more of a tedious one because it will require manually going through all of the minor races.

Mike has changed the way tha some of the information is stored in the game, so *some* of it saves into a database rather than a simple text file. I don't know what files contain this database because it is non-human-readable, which means I might not be able to upload 'fixed' files that will correct all these problems. I'll see what I can do about sorting out any incorrect info in the text files though. :wink:

*Edit - hmm...looks like the editor isn't working in the current version of Supremacy. We're going to have to wait until Mike posts an update before I can look at fixing the remaining issues.


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Thank you for the kind welcome Matress. :)

Yeah I figured it was an odd nickname to use, but it's my net-wide nickname so I figured I might as well keep it. I was a Trek fan long before I was a Star Wars fan though, so no need to worry there :P

My computer stats are-

Windows XP Sp2
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On-board sound

Actually just thought of something, I really lowered the sound hardware acceleration in a vain attempt to get the original 'ST: Armada' to work, I'll push it back up and see if anything changes.

Oh one more thing - this has probably been answered before, but why does a Cruiser take 3 turns to build, and a Scout takes 11 turns?

NOTE: I tried to attach the save game file, but the system just told me "The extension sav is not allowed."



EDIT: I tried again after changing my sound hardware acceleration, and it seemed to go alright until turn 15 yet again launched my Gigabyte software thinking I'd plugged a microphone into the green plug... Anyway I saved and re-started it and it went alright for another two turns or so, and then the graphics started playing up again. I'll try and take a screenshot of it to show you exactly what I mean.


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I found that running the game in Vista rather than XP on the same hardware reduced turn time from five to six minutes down to one to two seconds.

The rest I do not know about.


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Which is odd, since normally Vista makes things run worse :p


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I know what's causing that, and I'll try to remember to fix it before the next release (which won't be for a while).

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Cheers for the reply Mike.

I'll try that and see what happens.

EDIT: Nope, didn't work. Here's a screenshot of what happened


EDIT2: A pic of what happened last time


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Ok, I can honestly say that that is the wierdest - but coolest - glitch that i've ever seen in Supremacy! Was the background animated as well? Can you make it a selectable option, Mike? :lol: :lol: :lol:

I have absolutely no idea what could have caused this Darth Windu, but i'm sure Mike will know, just wait for him to reply.


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