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Oops...Acrklor = Martocticvs. :ahem:

That's what happens when you read and type too fast for your own good. :ahem: :lol:

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Quantum duplicates? :p


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Nah, I just forgot to deactivate your cloaking device and targeted the nearest other ship, fellow Romulan. :lol:

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Hello all BOTF2 testers (me now included):

I'm not completely sure if this is a bug (what I am about to tell you) but when I am the Federation in the latest patched
supremacy game, and build the ship yard in the Sol system, and then try to build a colony ship after that, and wait a couple
turns, the ship is not even starting to build!

Is there something I'm doing wrong here, is this a bug in the game, or do I have to wait longer for the ships to be built on Earth?

Anybody know anything about this?

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xgamer3000 wrote:
Hello all BOTF2 testers (me now included):

I'm not completely sure if this is a bug (what I am about to tell you) but when I am the Federation in the latest patched
supremacy game, and build the ship yard in the Sol system, and then try to build a colony ship after that, and wait a couple
turns, the ship is not even starting to build!

Is there something I'm doing wrong here, is this a bug in the game, or do I have to wait longer for the ships to be built on Earth?

Anybody know anything about this?

Tom Anderson


Shipyards need 25 energy to run, did you activate it? In production submenu menu of solar system relocate some resources to power plant and then in structures activate the shipyard


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I have some problems with ship building, I am at tech lvl 4, but I didn˙t get the Cruiser 2 or Colony Ship 2 at tech lvl 3.


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There is another annoying bug since the last update: If a building upgrade (e.g. farm) is added to the queue and there is already another upgrade (e.g. intel) in it, then I get an "unexpected error".

I also get one with the autosave. The auto.sav is empty and clicking "Load Game" in the main screen causes the "unexpected error".


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Check your resource levels when building ships--it could be that you're short on Dilithium, Deuterium, Personnel, or Raw Materials.

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The facility upgrade bug has been fixed in today's update, as has the crash due to dequeuing a build project with a cost of zero (0), and the issue of "% Personnel Training" bonuses not being applied.

Saved games from the last couple versions *should* continue to load after applying this update, but as always, there are no guarantees.

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Hi Guys , Mike just like to say Great Game . Im Really enjoying testing it ,
Im running it on a Windows Vista 64 bit system , Intel-Core 2 Duo 3.0 Ghz , 4 Ghz ram ,
GeForce 8800 GTX video card , SB X-FI sound card .
Ive noticed some Bugs , but they've allready been mentioned by other players on the Board .
The Game looks very Crisp and Clean , I cant wait until you finish it .
Supremacy Rules !!!!!!!!!


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Hi Guys , Mike just like to say Great Game . Im Really enjoying testing it ,
Im running it on a Windows Vista 64 bit system , Intel-Core 2 Duo 3.0 Ghz , 4 Ghz ram ,
GeForce 8800 GTX video card , SB X-FI sound card .
Ive noticed some Bugs , but they've allready been mentioned by other players on the Board .
The Game looks very Crisp and Clean , I cant wait until you finish it .
Supremacy Rules !!!!!!!!!

Welcome to the forums, Greenlatern! Thank you for your kind words about Supremacy. I'm glad to hear you've enjoyed it. I hope you'll stick around and report any new bugs that you encounter in future releases :).

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Hi guys, I just learnt of this project a week ago and im very impressed at the currunt build of the game.
Keep up the good work and I have to say Thanks to the developers for saving botf it was a great game
with great flaws. :bigthumb:


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Hi guys, I just learnt of this project a week ago and im very impressed at the currunt build of the game.
Keep up the good work and I have to say Thanks to the developers for saving botf it was a great game
with great flaws. :bigthumb:

Haha. I certainly hope you meant "without great flaws". :P

Finally got my account back after all the forum downtimes and changes. I'm glad to be back. :)

And I'm definitely glad for all the updates streaming through (this forum and through Supremacy itself)...and especially the one about Gamespot! LOL. I see components being "constructed" here and there and I can't wait for all of them to come together to form the final game. One quick question. Though it may be premature to be asking this at this stage. Will Supremacy be updated further with more features once the game hits the final build (as in like v1.00)?

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Will Supremacy be updated further with more features once the game hits the final build (as in like v1.00)?
I don't know if Supremacy will really have a "v1.0" or "final release". I suspect the game will just continue to evolve until all the planned features are completed, and perhaps some additional features. After that, I'll move on to my next project, but I'm sure there will be a few maintenance releases to fix bugs.

Then again, there might be enough pressure around here to declare a "gold" release just for the sake of celebration. If so, I may have to print up some "Special Edition" DVDs for select members of the community as a "thanks for your support" gift :mrgreen:.

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Hey all, just ran across the listing for this game on Gamespot. I've update .NET to 3.5 SP1 Beta, checked that Windows was up to date, then down loaded the game.

I unZipped the folder using 7zip, and, not seeing an installer, ran the .exe from that location.

The game started up fine, if a little slow. I was still running firefox, so it will likely start faster. After the game start screen was up and I selected "Single Player", the Pop-up for "Update" started. I, wanting to run the newest version, clicked "OK". About half way through the down load I got an error(screen shot and file contents follow).

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An unspecified error occurred on the render thread.

   at System.Windows.Media.MediaContext.NotifyPartitionIsZombie(Int32 failureCode)
   at System.Windows.Media.MediaContext.NotifyChannelMessage()
   at System.Windows.Interop.HwndTarget.HandleMessage(Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
   at System.Windows.Interop.HwndSource.HwndTargetFilterMessage(IntPtr hwnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wParam, IntPtr lParam, Boolean& handled)
   at MS.Win32.HwndWrapper.WndProc(IntPtr hwnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wParam, IntPtr lParam, Boolean& handled)
   at MS.Win32.HwndSubclass.DispatcherCallbackOperation(Object o)
   at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter)
   at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter, Delegate catchHandler)

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My computer specs:
Windows XP pro 64 bit
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200
Gigabyte M57SLI-S4 Mobo
4 GB DDR2800
nVidia Geforce 7900gs

I'll do some further testing, to see if the error repeats, etc.


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I'am guessing it died half way through updating. Did you try and start uip again and see if the updater managed to complete. I don't know whether any firewall settings may have an effect on the updater process either i'am afraid.

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I have just successfully run the default game through a couple of turns. The one thing I did different was to wait for the updater, instead of clicking on "single player". No software firewall, just the DSL gateway firewall(which has low settings).

So I'm up and running, now. I wonder if the open "single player" window affected things?


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Possibly, if the updater was either scanning or updating files, the effect of starting a new game could have caused a conflict. My guess is that MStrobel hasn't put a lock or notification telling the user to wait for the updater to finish before starting a game yet.

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Hi SargentWild,

Welcome to the forums! The error you posted is actually rather unusual. It seems the error occurred on the render thread, which suggests that something went wrong in the Direct3D renderer, the DirectX library itself, or your video driver. I would be surprised if you saw that error again.

You should be able to start the update at any point, because it does not depend at all on the current state of the game. All it does is download files in the background, and the changes are not applied until after the game exits. In theory, you should be able to begin an update while a game is in progress, while a game is starting, or at any other time.

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I've played 5 150 turn matchs as each race in multiplayer by myself and all up iv'e only had 2 crashes involving unhandled exeptions and only 1 uneplained crash to desktop. The first 3 were before the lastest patch the other 2 were played after.

My System: AMD X2 5600+
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Running on Windows Xp Service Pack 2

Good going for an Alpha :bigthumb: !!!!


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mstrobel wrote:
I don't know if Supremacy will really have a "v1.0" or "final release". I suspect the game will just continue to evolve until all the planned features are completed, and perhaps some additional features. After that, I'll move on to my next project, but I'm sure there will be a few maintenance releases to fix bugs.

That's nice to know that Supremacy will still be updated as bugs are found. Though I'm sure most of them will be eliminated after all these debugging. :)

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Then again, there might be enough pressure around here to declare a "gold" release just for the sake of celebration. If so, I may have to print up some "Special Edition" DVDs for select members of the community as a "thanks for your support" gift :mrgreen:.

Haha. That's very sweet. Gold release sounds awesome.

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I think a gold cd/dvd would be a nice touch. I remember not thinking very highly of them, until I got one of my own. So I think the people who helped out a lot would really appreciate it. :bigthumb:

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kudos.. on the game, ive quetly been paying attention, was around briefly for the botf2 project that disappeared... but this when i first got it.. was beyond my ideas on what someone would build.. so congrats to all involved, bugs... have all been mentioned.. or fixed that ive come accross, no need to thank me n shiznit.. youve done it enough to others.. but thanks for all the effort.. and future effort that you have and will put into this


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Why can I build a Cardassian Listening Post whilte playing Federation? Is it a bug?


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I hope this is not a duplicate report, but I did not see a known issue thread, or post.

When I right click and select system, I will get old information for Sol system, from (about) turn 5. I'm playing Federation.

This will occur unless:
1) I have Sol system selected when I right click.
2) I have a member system selected when I right click, and use the drop down menu at the top of the system screen.
3) Use the drop down menu at the top of the system screen to change to another system, then back to Sol sytem.

So any right clicks off of Sol system that go directly to Sol system will generate the problem, with the "drop down" menu providing correct information for Sol system.

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Awesome work btw, what you have done so far is incredible. If the copy of Gmax at Turbo Squid is any good, I'll see about helping with models and artwork.


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Why can I build a Cardassian Listening Post whilte playing Federation? Is it a bug?
That sounds like a mistake in the game data rather than in the game itself. I'll check into it and have matress fix it.

@SargentWild: Nobody's reported that bug yet. I'll try to reproduce it this week and get it fixed. Thanks!

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I got another error today, this one for memory, looks like:

Attempted to read or write protected memory. This is often an indication that other memory is corrupt.

at MS.Win32.UnsafeNativeMethods.GetMessageExtraInfo()
at System.Windows.Interop.HwndMouseInputProvider.ReportInput(IntPtr hwnd, InputMode mode, Int32 timestamp, RawMouseActions actions, Int32 x, Int32 y, Int32 wheel)
at System.Windows.Interop.HwndMouseInputProvider.FilterMessage(IntPtr hwnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wParam, IntPtr lParam, Boolean& handled)
at System.Windows.Interop.HwndSource.InputFilterMessage(IntPtr hwnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wParam, IntPtr lParam, Boolean& handled)
at MS.Win32.HwndWrapper.WndProc(IntPtr hwnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wParam, IntPtr lParam, Boolean& handled)
at MS.Win32.HwndSubclass.DispatcherCallbackOperation(Object o)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter, Delegate catchHandler)

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mika83 wrote:
Why can I build a Cardassian Listening Post whilte playing Federation? Is it a bug?
That sounds like a mistake in the game data rather than in the game itself. I'll check into it and have matress fix it.

@SargentWild: Nobody's reported that bug yet. I'll try to reproduce it this week and get it fixed. Thanks!


Mike, i've told you about this a few times. It's a result of the multiple-upgrade bug, where if a building has multiple upgrades, ALL of them are always shown as available, regardless of any other restrictions. That's why I sent you my data files two weeks ago for you to check for problems. If you can't fix this bug, there's a very simple solution - just add in a Cardassian Subspace Scanner and remove the multiple upgrades from the other structures.

...I didn't know that the Cardassian Listening Post was a part of the original files though. My own files are so modded compared to everyone elses now i'm not sure what si original and what is updated. :ahem:

By the way, i'm not sure if you got my message Mike, but after some experimentation I found that your "MyMod" solution does not work afterall, although you might have updated that during the last few days.

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Welcome back to the forums, SeaBee-T! I remember you! :)

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Mike, i've told you about this a few times. It's a result of the multiple-upgrade bug, where if a building has multiple upgrades, ALL of them are always shown as available, regardless of any other restrictions.
That's not entirely accurate--all restrictions were checked except the presence of the upgrade target in the player's tech tree :mischief:. The bug has been fixed. However, the Listening Post upgrade doesn't show up anymore, because it's not in the Federation or Default tech trees.

Matress, please update your game data as follows so that I don't have to merge my changes with yours when you send them to me:
  • Set 'Subspace Scanner', 'Listening Post', and 'Isolinear Scanner' to be buildable by all civilizations.
  • Add 'Listening Post' to the list of items obsoleted by the 'Cardassian Listening Post'.
  • Add 'Isolinear Scanner' to the list of items obsoleted by the 'Cardassian Isolinear Scanner'.

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