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AlexMcpherson
Ensign
Joined: 10 Apr 2010, 16:28 Posts: 138
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I got but one request... Subtle differences between the smaller B'rel and the larger K'Vort, so that aside from wing positions, you *can* tell the difference.
Example, is the D-7 and the K'Tinga, the latter is distinguishable from the former if you know what you're looking for.
An excellent example also, which unfortunately didn't make it in time for the episode, is the D-4, to the D-7. Ent s1 episode Unexpected. the ship was supposed to be a new design, but the CG guys had been busy with other stuff and didn't have time to build and render the D4, and so had to used a K'Tinga model for it. They had the idea that the D-4 design they eventually built and rendered is what we should have seen in the episode *it was only time constraints that we didnt get it* so as far as they (the CG guys) are concerned, Canon is that the episode had the D-4, not the K'Tinga.
*breathes*
So The D-4 was a predecessor design to the D-7. Just as the Ent-era Duras' bird of Prey was a predecessor to the Bird Of Prey we saw from movies onwards, and the D-5 is clearly a predecessor to the Vor'cha design. Sort of.
I'm talking the kind of design lineage we got with the Enterprise from TOS to TMP, them TMP to the -A, the -A>B, B>C. C>D ... Only the E doesn't seem to have an intermediary step between it and the D if you get what I mean.
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22 Apr 2010, 19:07 |
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vjeko1701
Crazed Emissary of the Photoshop
Joined: 13 Mar 2009, 20:17 Posts: 2091 Location: Krapina, Croatia
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I have recommended that D4 should be in the game, along with the ENT bop, D5, small(augment) bop- episode Affliction, and canon colony and transport ships seen in Enterprise.
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22 Apr 2010, 19:11 |
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Zeleni
Aesthetics Surgeon
Joined: 24 Oct 2006, 01:00 Posts: 1350 Location: Croatia
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and they will be... just for Vjeko here:
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22 Apr 2010, 19:15 |
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vjeko1701
Crazed Emissary of the Photoshop
Joined: 13 Mar 2009, 20:17 Posts: 2091 Location: Krapina, Croatia
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Whose model is it? I almost cried, It's beautiful.
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22 Apr 2010, 19:31 |
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Zeleni
Aesthetics Surgeon
Joined: 24 Oct 2006, 01:00 Posts: 1350 Location: Croatia
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Atrahassis, he modeled dozens of ships for various Starfleet Command mods, he was so good that after amateur modeling he decided to attend special school for Cgi's.
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22 Apr 2010, 19:37 |
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vjeko1701
Crazed Emissary of the Photoshop
Joined: 13 Mar 2009, 20:17 Posts: 2091 Location: Krapina, Croatia
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And we can use it?
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22 Apr 2010, 19:50 |
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Zeleni
Aesthetics Surgeon
Joined: 24 Oct 2006, 01:00 Posts: 1350 Location: Croatia
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As long he is credited... I have his complete collection
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22 Apr 2010, 19:58 |
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vjeko1701
Crazed Emissary of the Photoshop
Joined: 13 Mar 2009, 20:17 Posts: 2091 Location: Krapina, Croatia
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Where is a drool smilie when you need it. Can you post some more pictures of his collection?
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22 Apr 2010, 20:07 |
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Zeleni
Aesthetics Surgeon
Joined: 24 Oct 2006, 01:00 Posts: 1350 Location: Croatia
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Yeah
KLINGONS BY ATRAHASIS:
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22 Apr 2010, 20:14 |
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vjeko1701
Crazed Emissary of the Photoshop
Joined: 13 Mar 2009, 20:17 Posts: 2091 Location: Krapina, Croatia
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We do have a shortage of Klingon ships, especially in eras between ENT and TOS, and these will be perfect.
Also D4 image for ingame usage.
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22 Apr 2010, 20:21 |
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Zeleni
Aesthetics Surgeon
Joined: 24 Oct 2006, 01:00 Posts: 1350 Location: Croatia
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Well I was planning to take renders in my 3d MAX cause I have all his models in 3ds format so you don't need to to bother with removing black backgrounds cause is much easier to take tranparent render but if you can't wait for two years or so....
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22 Apr 2010, 20:26 |
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vjeko1701
Crazed Emissary of the Photoshop
Joined: 13 Mar 2009, 20:17 Posts: 2091 Location: Krapina, Croatia
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Just for the August update.
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22 Apr 2010, 20:32 |
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AlexMcpherson
Ensign
Joined: 10 Apr 2010, 16:28 Posts: 138
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To be honest, I was just askin' for a subtle but obvious modification of the 24cen BoP model to represent the larger kvort,
Like how the galaxy class saucer detailing was altered to show a smaller vessel for both New Orleans and Cheyenne classes (the windows are huge on the saucer models, compared to the tiny ones on the Ent-D models)
Except for, one episode I believe, the Nebula Class Saucer is distinctly different, from a top-down/side view from the Galaxy class: A lot of missing windows and so forth but otherwise being a 1:1 scale copy of the Galaxy class saucer. (or should that be, the Galaxy class saucer is the copy, as the registry numbers of nebulas start in either the 5 or 6xxxx ranges, and the gal were 70xxx onwards.)
Basically, the same kind of deal for the K'Vort, compared to the B'Rel. Slight differences on "it takes up 3~10 inches of screenspace" range. since ST4 was very clear in the size-range of the BoP (landed) the K'Vort would be the larger altered model, and the B'rel simply the 24th uprated ships, with the D-12 BoP from Generations descrbied as the predecessor to the KVort.
Ahm just ramblin now.
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22 Apr 2010, 20:42 |
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Matress_of_evil
Evil Romulan Overlord of Evil - Now 100% Faster!
Joined: 02 Dec 2004, 01:00 Posts: 7392 Location: Returned to the previous place.
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I saw, I cried, I drooled. We NEED these models. We NEED this guy. And yes, we need a drool emoticon. Best I could find was Homer for the time being. Only Homer can demonstrate our feelings for these models.
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22 Apr 2010, 23:40 |
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Captain Bashir
Genetically Altered Manual Labourer
Joined: 17 Aug 2009, 01:31 Posts: 2083 Location: Passed out on the floor after math mistake discovered by Hawking
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I gotta admit. We really NEED these ships. Bashiramma
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22 Apr 2010, 23:57 |
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Matress_of_evil
Evil Romulan Overlord of Evil - Now 100% Faster!
Joined: 02 Dec 2004, 01:00 Posts: 7392 Location: Returned to the previous place.
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Edited. I'll pm to Jig.
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23 Apr 2010, 00:04 |
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vjeko1701
Crazed Emissary of the Photoshop
Joined: 13 Mar 2009, 20:17 Posts: 2091 Location: Krapina, Croatia
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Do you have any more models made by this guy? In any species? With these Klingon models and a couple of our own (ENT bop, D5, small(augment) bop- episode Affliction, and canon colony and transport ships seen in Enterprise.) Our Klingon ship list for ENT and TOS eras is complete and beautiful (I will enjoy playing in these eras with Klingons)
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23 Apr 2010, 13:20 |
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vjeko1701
Crazed Emissary of the Photoshop
Joined: 13 Mar 2009, 20:17 Posts: 2091 Location: Krapina, Croatia
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New Klingon images + one suggestion that has no better image(surveyor I). All except one can be used ingame(again surveyor I). We don't have only four models for ENT era, that we should make on the next round of ship modeling. I hope you agree with my suggestions of what ship should be in what class.(destroyer, scout...)
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23 Apr 2010, 17:24 |
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vjeko1701
Crazed Emissary of the Photoshop
Joined: 13 Mar 2009, 20:17 Posts: 2091 Location: Krapina, Croatia
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I'll try to contact this guy, he has very promising models. http://armada2.filefront.com/file/Tease ... ack;108829
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23 Apr 2010, 22:08 |
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Zeleni
Aesthetics Surgeon
Joined: 24 Oct 2006, 01:00 Posts: 1350 Location: Croatia
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Good models but I'm afraid Vjeko you will have to retexture them
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23 Apr 2010, 22:13 |
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vjeko1701
Crazed Emissary of the Photoshop
Joined: 13 Mar 2009, 20:17 Posts: 2091 Location: Krapina, Croatia
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Hm, yeah. But we only need his D5 and both Bird of Preys, we have the Raptor and D4
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23 Apr 2010, 22:19 |
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Marla
Crewman
Joined: 01 Jul 2011, 05:33 Posts: 10 Location: Spyika, Klingon Empire Territory
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Do I make a request for certion klingon ships here aswell?
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Captain Bashir
Genetically Altered Manual Labourer
Joined: 17 Aug 2009, 01:31 Posts: 2083 Location: Passed out on the floor after math mistake discovered by Hawking
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Requests are always considered. More than likely the ships you want are going to appear in it anyway. In addition, the game can be modified when it comes to images anyway.
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01 Jul 2011, 22:50 |
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Marla
Crewman
Joined: 01 Jul 2011, 05:33 Posts: 10 Location: Spyika, Klingon Empire Territory
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I was told to post here sense this was the only other place to post soo It is my theory as a Klingon Fanatic ^.^ That the shiplist is in need of rearrange Firstly I don't think any Bird of Prey Should be classified as a Cruiser even with a refit but for the Bird of Blood http://i51.tinypic.com/sm55x2.png And the Bird of Prey's Should consist as Frigates or Scouts as the Raptors should be as either Scouts or Frigate they where interdoucedin Enterpise as scouts of the Empire Here is my thought on the Bird of Prey Selection for Frigates or scouts now to my view there is 13 tech teirs so if you get confused that be why http://i53.tinypic.com/24chbv6.jpg Ehh I confuse myself easily asfor cruisers the Klingons have uncountable varies types of Cruisers, I believe there shold only be 3 destroyers http://i56.tinypic.com/2yv4769.jpg being the first one and the 2nd one being D-13 (K'T'orr) Class Destroyer http://i51.tinypic.com/o91u6h.jpg and the 3rd one being the Destroyer D-12 K'Teremny or the Destroyer D-18 Lara'atan And for the battleships D-70 as the Final Tech 13 Battleship http://i51.tinypic.com/ereurt.jpg And the Battleship L-24 Komo Val or Vo'quv Carrier
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01 Jul 2011, 23:02 |
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vjeko1701
Crazed Emissary of the Photoshop
Joined: 13 Mar 2009, 20:17 Posts: 2091 Location: Krapina, Croatia
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Well the point is to fill the shiplist with canon designs, all of the suggested were never in any show.
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02 Jul 2011, 00:27 |
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amon ome
Crewman
Joined: 06 Nov 2010, 13:24 Posts: 21 Location: Croatia
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That last klingon ship, that Marla gave link to, is beautiful. http://i51.tinypic.com/ereurt.jpg
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03 Jul 2011, 11:57 |
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viceadmiralv
Cadet
Joined: 28 Mar 2009, 11:31 Posts: 86 Location: Germany
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yeah the last ship looks very good. Somehow it remindes me of the relativity timeship of captain braxton from 29th century. Maybe its the klingon counterpart.
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03 Jul 2011, 14:42 |
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