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Author:  Iceman [ 05 Dec 2012, 09:22 ]
Post subject:  Artwork for Agents needed
It's crunch time for the next public build, so everyone is hard at work (hopefully :grin: ).
To all the artists out there (including the guys in the team, who might be busy with other stuff, hence posting this here in the public forums), we only have pics for Agents for the Federation, and only for the Enterprise era. I think this would be a good time to get a batch of pics for the other empires, ideally from several eras (also valid for the Federation).
We need the pic (PNG, 160x160 px, 24 bit depth), the name and the era of the Agent. Check the Resources\Images\Agents folder in the private builds available for download to get an idea of what we need.

Get to work already! :grin:
And thanks in advance!
Author:  Catalin M [ 05 Dec 2012, 14:33 ]
Post subject:  Re: Artwork for Agents needed
Like all of you, I can hardly wait for the upcoming release myself. I know I am relatively new here, and I don't have programmer skills, but I am a professional translator and I don't like to just sit around. Are you interested in releasing this latest build in other languages too? If so, I could be of help with the German and French translations. Or better yet, in Romanian, since that is my native language.
Author:  Kenneth_of_Borg [ 05 Dec 2012, 14:48 ]
Post subject:  Re: Artwork for Agents needed
I sent a PM to Matress_Of_Evil asking to add you to the translator group. Perhaps there are parts of the game that will not change in coming builds that could be translated. I believe work on translation was on hold for a more complete build. Now could be the time to start on some of the work.

Will try to fit in a few agents this weekend. For now I am working on a combat engine test demo.
:borg:
Author:  Kenneth_of_Borg [ 07 Dec 2012, 03:46 ]
Post subject:  Re: Artwork for Agents needed
Are these agents already named in the code?

So do we us Weyoun One to Eight or whatever they ended with?

It will be nice to get some other photos of Weyoun as the numbers go up.

Do we call the Female Changeling the Female Changeling or what?

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Author:  Iceman [ 07 Dec 2012, 09:35 ]
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Those look really good Kenneth! Thanks.
I'll add them to the agents file. I guess those names will have to do :wink:

--

This thread is not just for artists BTW. If you have suggestions for names+era, then go ahead and post them!
Author:  Catalin M [ 07 Dec 2012, 14:20 ]
Post subject:  Re: Artwork for Agents needed
By agents you don't mean race pictures, do you? Well, an alternative would be to take snapshots of Weyoun and others from the actual episodes. That wouldn't go against law, would it? And as for diversity, there were other Vorta on the show. Why not use images of them too, instead of going "Weyoun 1 through 8"? Just saying...
Author:  Kenneth_of_Borg [ 07 Dec 2012, 14:31 ]
Post subject:  Re: Artwork for Agents needed
We will need more than eight agents so Weyouns and the other Vorta are OK.

In the new download look on your hard drive in the folder Resources\Images\Agents to see what we have just for the Enterprise era.

We are an unlicensed fan game. It is free so there is no profit to come after in a legal action. CBS Paramount has been nice to fans in fan made films and games so far. It remains an issue but after six + years we are still here.

:borg:
Author:  Catalin M [ 07 Dec 2012, 19:56 ]
Post subject:  Re: Artwork for Agents needed
Ok, so the agents are the main characters and some secondary ones. Then, basically we need pictures of Kirk, Spock, Uhura... Picard, Riker, Troi... to get the other eras too... am I getting this right? If I am, then that should be very easily found and done. So how many do we need per era and per empire?
Author:  Iceman [ 08 Dec 2012, 12:06 ]
Post subject:  Re: Artwork for Agents needed
Adding agents for other empires doesn't work at this point, but we can still at least make a list of characters we can use and get the pics.

Currently they're generated every 6~9 turns, so that those 12 we have now will be generated by turn 90-ish.
The more we have, the better I guess, they'll be more randomized. But let's not go overboard. :wink:
Author:  Matress_of_evil [ 09 Dec 2012, 12:13 ]
Post subject:  Re: Artwork for Agents needed
We've seen a couple of other Vorta in DS9. We don't just have to use Weyoun. From what I remember, the very first Vorta we saw was actually a female.

Is there any way to alter the generation rate of the agents, Iceman? I think it should be much more random. And also with some dependence on the resources put into intel; the more intel, the higher the chances of recruiting an agent.
Author:  Kenneth_of_Borg [ 09 Dec 2012, 13:49 ]
Post subject:  Re: Artwork for Agents needed
Here is that Kilana Vorta you were looking for.

Do the Changelings have gender or do they just simulate it? Perhaps we should number them as we do with the cloned Vorta copies.

Images come from different quality sources. I hope these are adequate.

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Author:  Matress_of_evil [ 09 Dec 2012, 19:56 ]
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Lol I recognise "Catalin One". I should've asked her if she minded her picture being used. :wink:
Author:  Iceman [ 12 Dec 2012, 18:59 ]
Post subject:  Re: Artwork for Agents needed
Matress_of_evil wrote:
Is there any way to alter the generation rate of the agents, Iceman? I think it should be much more random. And also with some dependence on the resources put into intel; the more intel, the higher the chances of recruiting an agent.


Currently all you can change is this:


Code:
                    MaxActiveAgentsPerEmpire="8"
                    MinTurnsBetweenAgentRecruitment="5"
                    NaturalSkillsPerAgent="2" />


Making it dependent on intel requires code changes.
Author:  Catalin M [ 12 Dec 2012, 21:51 ]
Post subject:  Re: Artwork for Agents needed
Yay! A Vorta with my name! It is so rare for me to find people with my name! You guys are great! :clap:
Author:  Kenneth_of_Borg [ 12 Dec 2012, 22:26 ]
Post subject:  Re: Artwork for Agents needed
Guess you will play Dominion a lot.
:wink:
Author:  Kenneth_of_Borg [ 19 Jan 2013, 17:10 ]
Post subject:  Re: Artwork for Agents needed
Here is another agent image for the Dominion. (160 x 160 in .png)
As hatchlings I guess they just get numbers?

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Author:  Iceman [ 19 Jan 2013, 18:07 ]
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That's a very good one, Kenneth. Though I'm not sure about having Jem'Hadar as Agents? These are supposed to be Diplomats, Spies and Officers.
Author:  Kenneth_of_Borg [ 19 Jan 2013, 18:39 ]
Post subject:  Re: Artwork for Agents needed
Iceman wrote:
That's a very good one, Kenneth. Though I'm not sure about having Jem'Hadar as Agents? These are supposed to be Diplomats, Spies and Officers.

That is a very good point.
They were officers but not the rest.

With all the cloning in the Vorta and limited images of them and Founders this area of the Dominion GUI will not have variety.
Would we accept images of regular people like you and me photoshoped to have a changeling's nose and ears?
Would we accept cloned images of the cloned Vorta One to Vorta Twenty Seven?

We are not as limited for Klingons but still it will not be enough. I see us not having the variety seen in Federation for images to use in all the other major races.

In just the Enterpise TV series Mike has used 12 images.
Have we set the number of agents in a given major race?

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Author:  Kenneth_of_Borg [ 20 Jan 2013, 03:51 ]
Post subject:  Re: Artwork for Agents needed
Did find another Changeling.
How many agents does the Dominion need?

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Author:  Kenneth_of_Borg [ 20 Jan 2013, 14:58 ]
Post subject:  Re: Artwork for Agents needed
And do not forget Eris.
Do not let me hog the show guys.
Jump right in.
This is about it for Vortas from DS9.
We can expand them by clone number but there
are not a lot of additional photos.

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Author:  Catalin M [ 20 Jan 2013, 15:01 ]
Post subject:  Re: Artwork for Agents needed
How many Dominion agents do you have in total by now, Kenneth?
Author:  Kenneth_of_Borg [ 20 Jan 2013, 15:35 ]
Post subject:  Re: Artwork for Agents needed
There are eleven Vorta that could be cloned into multiple copies of each, two changelings and one Jem'Hedar.

The Dominion might be a special case where Jem'Hedar could be set as officers only.
Author:  Iceman [ 21 Jan 2013, 09:34 ]
Post subject:  Re: Artwork for Agents needed
We might "need" to have a default setting for each agent; the Federation ones we have, some don't also feel right in some assignments.
Author:  Kenneth_of_Borg [ 21 Jan 2013, 19:32 ]
Post subject:  Re: Artwork for Agents needed
Iceman wrote:
We might "need" to have a default setting for each agent; the Federation ones we have, some don't also feel right in some assignments.

That is a good idea but we will have to see what Mike is willing or has the time to do.

Here is a start on Matress's people.

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Author:  Kenneth_of_Borg [ 22 Jan 2013, 14:28 ]
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Sela

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Author:  Kenneth_of_Borg [ 22 Jan 2013, 16:54 ]
Post subject:  Re: Artwork for Agents needed
Praetor, really a rank and not a name but hey.

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Author:  Kenneth_of_Borg [ 23 Jan 2013, 02:18 ]
Post subject:  Re: Artwork for Agents needed
Make up some Romulan names:
http://www.alt-starfleet-rpg.org/misc/romulannamegen.html

Corrected name to Jarok

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Author:  Tabsonian [ 23 Jan 2013, 08:27 ]
Post subject:  Re: Artwork for Agents needed
I was wondering on what we have for agents and what we are missing for agent artwork?
Author:  Iceman [ 23 Jan 2013, 11:19 ]
Post subject:  Re: Artwork for Agents needed
What we have re Agents is right here in this thread. :wink: Currently there are only Federation agents in the game, we have 12 from the Ent era, that Kenneth already posted in this thread (and that are currently in the build released to the public). He also posted a few candidates for the other races.
Check the entire thread, and what's not there, it's missing. :wink: The ideal would be to have at least say 2 or 3 from each era for each race, preferably characters that can fill all the 3 roles (Officer, Diplomat and Spy).
Author:  Kenneth_of_Borg [ 23 Jan 2013, 16:20 ]
Post subject:  Re: Artwork for Agents needed
Toreth
:orion:

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