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Author:  starfleet.command [ 02 Oct 2009, 14:07 ]
Post subject:  Civilizations .xml text File
In the Civilizations .xml text File, I noticed the presence of this:

For example, some minor races are directly identified by their name of government as the Ferengi & the Gorn races below:

<Civilization Key="FERENGI">
<Race>FERENGI</Race>
<ShortName>Ferengi</ShortName>
<LongName>Ferengi Alliance</LongName>

<Civilization Key="GORN">
<Race>GORN</Race>
<ShortName>Gorn</ShortName>
<LongName>Gorn Confederacy</LongName>

and other races are simply identified by their name in the plural as the Evora & Karemma races below

<Civilization Key="EVORA">
<Race>EVORA</Race>
<ShortName>Evora</ShortName>
<LongName>Evora</LongName>

<Civilization Key="KAREMMA">
<Race>KAREMMA</Race>
<ShortName>Karemma</ShortName>
<LongName>Karemma</LongName>

The question is to know if it is a bug or another idea to give another name to the minor races?
Author:  Matress_of_evil [ 02 Oct 2009, 14:51 ]
Post subject:  Re: Civilizations .xml text File
This isn't a bug; the full names of a political entity have been given where they are known. I say "political entity" because a single species can actually be set as two or more different "races" in the game. You could therefore for example mod the game to have both the United Federation of Planets AND the Terran Empire. Both races would still have Humans as their species, however. This setup allows the game to be much more flexible, moddable, and follow canon more closely.

Where a full name for a political entity is unknown, then the name has been set as the species name for canon and simplicities sake. Simply creating names for the races would not follow canon and would likely result in arguments over whether a name is "correct".

Civilization Key = The name of a race as it is referred to in the program files. (Which isn't necessarily seen by players)

Race = Species (Eg. Human)

ShortName = The common, shortened version of the political entities name. (Eg. Federation)

LongName = The full name of the political entity. (Eg. United Federation of Planets)
Author:  starfleet.command [ 02 Oct 2009, 15:03 ]
Post subject:  Re: Civilizations .xml text File
It's just for the LongName = The full name of the political entity. (Eg. United Federation of Planets) that i talked. Also there is a list of governments (Empires & Minor races) on Memory Alpha.

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Government
Author:  Zeleni [ 02 Oct 2009, 16:28 ]
Post subject:  Re: Civilizations .xml text File
Hey Starfleet why don't you make research on memory-alpha and compile a list of all canon goverment types per race by that i don't mean on on govermant bodyes like nobility council, that way they will be incorporated in game. We are all busy with different aspects of game be useful and help us. :winkthumb:
Author:  starfleet.command [ 02 Oct 2009, 17:00 ]
Post subject:  Re: Civilizations .xml text File
This is a list compiled with only the minor races includes in the demo.

Attachments:
Minor Race Governements.txt [940 Bytes]
Downloaded 215 times
Author:  Iceman [ 02 Oct 2009, 17:04 ]
Post subject:  Re: Civilizations .xml text File
Why do you keep calling it a demo? Technically, it's an alpha version of the game, not a demo. Does anyone else call it a demo? :wink:
Author:  starfleet.command [ 02 Oct 2009, 17:05 ]
Post subject:  Re: Civilizations .xml text File
Sorry, I did not know it
Author:  Zeleni [ 02 Oct 2009, 17:37 ]
Post subject:  Re: Civilizations .xml text File
Acamarian Ruling Council
It's not govermant type it is govermant body, govermant body name arn't desired.


Andorian Empire


Angosian Senate
Argrathi Authority

B

B'omar Sovereignty
Bajoran Provisional Government- FIX THE REST

Barzanian Planetary Republic
Breen Confederacy

D

Devore Imperium

E

Elysian CouncilG

Gorn Hegemony
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H
Hakonian Order
Halkan Council
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K

Kazon Order
Kes (government)
Krenim Imperium
Kressari Government
------------------------------------
M

Mokra Order
Monean Maritime Sovereignty
------------------------------------
R

Royal Family of Luria
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S

Sheliak Corporate
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T

Tholian Assembly
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V

Vidiian Sodality
Vulcan High Council
Author:  Matress_of_evil [ 02 Oct 2009, 17:47 ]
Post subject:  Re: Civilizations .xml text File
Thanks for the list guys, i'll add this to my to-do list. Still, not every race is included, so *some* will just have to be known by their species.

What do you mean about "fix the rest" with the Bajoran one though, Zeleni?

Incidentally, would the Bajoran Provisional Government technically be the correct name? If we've got a random universe, the Bajorans weren't enslaved, so wouldn't need a Government that was only provisional...ooh I can see where this convo is going to start going... :romulan:
Author:  starfleet.command [ 02 Oct 2009, 17:53 ]
Post subject:  Re: Civilizations .xml text File
What you think about this?:

Ba'ku Civilization
Orion Syndicate
Suliban Cabal
Author:  Zeleni [ 02 Oct 2009, 18:33 ]
Post subject:  Re: Civilizations .xml text File
Ok, it's correct when you have type of govermant in minor race name but it's wrong to have name of goverman tal body- for example UK is constitutional monarchy, parliament and king are govermantal bodyes,

Acamarian Ruling Council- ruling council is main body but acamaria can be reupublic or monarchy or despot state but we don't know that so when you say acamarian ruling council that represents only the body not acamrian race, state, or their govermantal foundation, sorry maybe is difficult to understand me cause i do lots of grammar errors. Font colour terms are incorrect and sounds weird.



Andorian Empire
Angosian Senate
Argrathi Authority

B

B'omar Sovereignty
Bajoran Provisional Government

Barzanian Planetary Republic
Breen Confederacy

D

Devore Imperium

E

Elysian Council

Gorn Hegemony
------------------------------------
H
Hakonian Order
Halkan Council
------------------------------------
K

Kazon Order
Kes (government) just Kes cause all races have some type of govermant
Krenim Imperium
Kressari Government same
------------------------------------
M

Mokra Order
Monean Maritime Sovereignty
------------------------------------
R

Royal Family of Luria
------------------------------------
S

Sheliak Corporate
---------------------------
T

Tholian Assembly
---------------------------
V

Vidiian Sodality
Vulcan High Council
Author:  starfleet.command [ 02 Oct 2009, 18:47 ]
Post subject:  Re: Civilizations .xml text File
Zeleni, look this please!

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Category:Governments

Erase Elysian Council I thought it was Elaysian
Author:  Zeleni [ 02 Oct 2009, 19:09 ]
Post subject:  Re: Civilizations .xml text File
Those people at memory alpha don't understand what is goverment... thrust me, for example:

Halkan Council- In Halkan society Council is most powerful body that means that small group of privileged people leads the race, the govemental type is oligarchy or plutocracy so it should be Halkan Oligarchy or Halkan Plutocracy... see difference?
Author:  starfleet.command [ 05 Oct 2009, 11:42 ]
Post subject:  Re: Civilizations .xml text File
What you think about this?:

Lurian Royalty
Argrathi Authority
Vulcan Confederacy (or High Command)
Author:  Matress_of_evil [ 05 Oct 2009, 12:50 ]
Post subject:  Re: Civilizations .xml text File
The Vulcan High Command is the body that oversees the Vulcan fleet, much like Starfleet Admiralty. So the High Command is not the government.
Author:  starfleet.command [ 05 Oct 2009, 12:53 ]
Post subject:  Re: Civilizations .xml text File
Matress_of_evil wrote:
The Vulcan High Command is the body that oversees the Vulcan fleet, much like Starfleet Admiralty. So the High Command is not the government.



I would see the Vulcan Confederacy
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