i just stick to reality. I really would hate to see the end of StarTrek, because i'm a great fan of it. Sorry for giving you guys a few hartattacks .

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I for one do not see Trek dying anytime too soon (Its hard for me to come to that conclusion when Spike TV plays two episodes of DS9, and 2 episodes of TNG every weekday). And to be honest I havent given up on Enterprise (at least not completely) yet. I dont know if anyone has looked lately, but at http://www.trekunited.com/ they have raised over 3 million dollars to support a new season of Enterprise. Now i know they truly have a long way to go (30 mil is their goal), but the fact that enterprise has gotten so much support recently, might make UPN rethink their stance, or make SciFi, or Spike Tv consider adding Enterprise (you can check http://www.trekunited.com for details). Its still a long shot, but the fact that people were willing to give so much gives me hope (the closest ammount of money donated to any other show that was cancelled was $375,000 and that was for Farscape [another good show]).

The point of my rant is that there is a big stink being thrown up as a result of Ent being cancelled. I wouldnt be suprised if we just may see another season of Ent, even if it is on Spike tv.

BTW, if anyone lives in an area of the world that does not get recent episodes of Enterprise, and would like to see some, write me a PM. I have about 40-50 episodes of Enterprise on my computer (and data discs), many of them from season 3 and 4. Even the two most recent episodes from season 4, dealing with the 'mystery' of the klingons in TOS who did not have head ridges. If someone would like some, just ask.

It's true! He does have a lot of episodes!

He's sent me four already, from the end of season 2 and the start of season 3 - thanks to him, I saw Earth get blown up! (Not sure if that is my Romulan side working on overdrive there...)

CVN, I think this would be a better pic of the death...





Always said I have the memory of a goldfish...blub...blub...

Trek will only die when we let it. Even if there is never (God, Allah, Buddha, and Q forbid!) another movie, book, or episode, there are always going to be freaks like us, still combing each episode for minute details, making LEGO models (at least, before mine were given away to some kid - who I really hope one day learns to build Trek models), and making our own designs, stories, and games, it doesn't matter whether Big Business is involved or not.

Star Trek has become a cultural phenomenon. There are references everywhere in our society, pretty much every episodic Sci-Fi has some indebtedness to it. Even when they describe it as the cliche, they do so only because Trek's popularity has made it so. And then there are always the fans.

I recently read about a group of people who started making digital episodes of Original-Series Trek using some digital cameras and their home computers. They used some guy's garage for the sets, and stay as accurate as possible to the ideals of Trek. In a way, a group of dedicated fans in a garage with a computer is truer to the idea of what Star Trek is than a bunch of suits staring at some Nielson Ratings and waiting for X amount of dollars.

Star Trek is all about dreams for the future, optimism for the potential of humanity to become better than we are, and hope for a future far beyond the stars.
As long as the fans are true to that dream, Trek will never die.

I actually choked up writing this. wow. I guess I didn't know how important it really is to me.

It's a part of us all

I think everyone else will get a bit choked up when they read your post...I know I did...

Trek cetainly won't die...you should see the emails i get from the yahoo saveenterprise group! i'm averaging at 100 emails a day!

And that's just the people who like enterprise...just imagine if everyone who even remotely liked trek went on a mass rally outside Paramount HQ! I think that would prove just how much we care about it...

enterprise was a great show (altho its still playign, its officially cancelled).. it is not the death of trek.. trek will live for as long as it is rememberd.. movies will always come out

altho enterprise did piss me off with the borg, the ferrengi... but whatever...

i hope they do me idea for the show.. called "star trek: federation" or "star trek: galaxy"

instead of focusing on 1 ship or 1 starbase.. focus alot of ships (in federation, only ferderation ships, in galaxy, different race ships) of course this wont happen cuz you need a huge budget.. but a wicked idea...

Has anyone read the post-series DS9 novels? If there were to be another movie, those books might make a good place to start. I also liked the idea to follow the assorted diplomatic/reconstruction missions to Romulus and Cardassia.

Has anyone read the "Lost Era" novels?

I know that some other people have suggested this, but a series, or group of miniseries could fill in the eighty years between the TOS movies and TNG.

There is a lot of stuff that happens, but an awful lot we don't know, as well. What were Captian Sulu's adventures aboard the Excelsior? Or Harriman's on the Enterprise B, or Garret's on the 'C'? Any of these would make a great series. (The last could be interesting because we already 'know' how it would end - there could be some serious tragedy set up; the last episode could be a kind of 'last stand' )

Of course, the show could jump around (I think this has already been suggested), but how awesome would it be to use some of the original series cast before they retire permanently?

The key is keeping these prequels consistent with the canon timeline (Hear that, Braga??! ) and not messing up the later stories by meeting everyone now! I'd still like to see the Romulan Wars, too! (you'd think that's what Enterprise would do, but NOOOO )

Anyway, I think there is plenty of room for future Trek series, but they need to be better run than Enterprise and follow the canon! Surely we can have interesting things without resorting to having attractive women in spandex and fighting the Borg every thirty seconds?! If you want my philosophy about Trek, read my earlier post. It should be a great intellectual series, dealing with important moral issues and interesting characters, while leaving room for some seriously awesome action!

So Braga is the guy who wrote Enterprise? (I don't pay much attention to the credits)

Well I hope he doesn't write a new series then (Unless he gets his act together)

I'd like a series/mini-series on the Ent-C, and I would (Obviously) like anything to do with the Romulans...

An Ent-C series would be cool, like you said, it would make a really great build-up since we know how it ends! Perhaps we could even see the aftermath of the attack (The alliance) and maybe the Romulan response to the alliance (Sabotage, further withdrawl etc)

I really think that particular era of trek could do with some padding out, particularly since we know bits-and-pieces of it.

Of course, the writer would have to be rather careful or the timeline...

I also like the idea of a series on the Excelsior. It's different (As in still Federation, but not the Enterprise) and that is how the writers have always tried to make trek - different, but the same.

I haven't read any trek books, so my knowledge stops where the films/series end. I suppose I should read some books, and use them to fill in the gaps in my knowledge, but of course, they aren't strictly canon (Not that I care, but some people/Klingons do...