Seven said that the quantum slipstream drive is similar to the borg transwarp, how do ships warp from sector A to sector E without ramming into other suns, planets, space debris and other ships, i read in a trek book that the early warp ships had to warp in hops to avoid these things and that later computers got that advanced that the ships computers could calculate and make the course corrections mid warp to avoid hitting things, i suppose this makes single jumps possible instead of hopping, im so confused about Transwarp that i have no idea what the HELL its supposed to be, paris was supposed to be the first human to break the transwarp barrier, voyager theory proved that if you hit warp 10 that you instantly are everywhere, but the exelsior in (was it search for spock?) had it when scottie sabotaged it, then the borg have it in theyr'e ships but also have transwarp hub's wich are realy artificialy created wormholes, wich happen to look amazingly like the jump gates in "Freespace" , borg transwarp looks like green tunnels ... then theres the galaxy xx and warp 13 i mean wtf, what is transwarp? when you enter it are you everywhere or is it a tunnel? do you enter it when you break the warp 10 barrier? if so how could future ships hit warp 13?.. the answeres to these and more questions when the script writers make up theyr'e effing minds... i think they make up these inconsistancies just to confuse fans

*!"%**^&!? We're gonna have to confuse the writers in revenge...

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I just read that in the future, (Somewhere around the late 26th century) the Romulans and Federation will become so close that they begin joint starship research and development, leading to the creation of the RX-01.

This could be a good base for a new storyline, I mean who wouldn't want to make a story about the creation of an advanced starship with all the advantages and technology of the Romulans, Federation? (And TV cameras!)

Perhaps by then, there could be new problems - maybe the Federation/Klingon alliance has gone wrong (Since there was absolutely no mention of the Klingons) or the Borg may have begun to creep back, or something new could be introduced?

This is the sort of thing that this thread was meant to be about, remember?

they can bloody well go off and explore new galaxies, oh look we found a freefloating trans dimensional eddy causing a tear in subspace meaning they get flung into a far galaxy or a spontainous temporal rift sends them far back in time to the T'Kon empire, or a dimensional rupture could send them to another reality where everybody looks like barry manilow *shudder* .. as long as it doesnt involve transwarp i dont care

Mistress_Of_Evil wrote another song for you guys...

(To the tune of hammer to the heart)

Ode to the Delta Flyer - 3 times destroyed & still flying!

Boom, Boom, Boom,
Like a hammer to the heart,
One phaser shot from you & my nice ship was torn apart.
Boom, Boom, Boom,
Should've known right from the start,
There's just no beating you.
Oh baby.
You tore my ship apart.

Saw you on my viewscreen;
You looked like a joke,
With weapons stuck all over your hull.
Thought you were a target,
But boy was I wrong,
Now you're flying away,
& my life support system's gone.
You and your fast shooting,
Blew off my hull plating.

Boom, Boom, Boom,
Like a hammer to the heart,
One phaser shot from you & my nice ship was torn apart.
Boom, Boom, Boom,
Should've known right from the start,
There's just no beating you.
Oh baby.
You tore my ship apart.

You flew off so quickly,
I thought you were done,
Then I realised, you were just having fun.
You turned round & flew back,
Started firing again,
Now the escape pods have launched,
& I've lost my crewmen.
Patrol ships flew right past us,
You must have bribed the bastards.

Boom, Boom, Boom,
Like a hammer to the heart,
One phaser shot from you & my nice ship was torn apart.
Boom, Boom, Boom,
Should've known right from the start,
There's just no beating you.
Oh baby.
You tore my ship apart.

Boom, Boom,
My Warp Core is now destabilizing.
Boom, Boom,
My escape can't handle fast flying.
Boom, Boom,
This damn shock waves' made me feel like crying.
Boom, Boom, Boom, Boom, Boom, Boom, Boom!

Boom, Boom, Boom.
Now my ship has been destroyed,
Tried to claim on the insurance,
But the warranty was void.
Boom, Boom, Boom.
Now I'm more than just annoyed,
I built that ship from scratch,
Oh baby,
& now it's been destroyed!

I hoipe this makes sonse, soince I hoive dysloxic toiyping!

Its god to know there are a few girls out there who are as big of dorks as we all are. No offense to the Mistress of Evil ofcourse.

She says no offense taken, and she finds it a high complement!

A girl after my own heart.

I saw this thread and said: WHAT THE HELL?!?!?

I didn't see it before, so thought it was new, and I saw 13 pages!
I only just realized it's quite old and you just posted recently...

The poem is,... intriguing...

This thread has been silent recently, so i'm back! 8O

We need to keep trek alive, what with the death of Enterprise and everything

Anyone got more ideas for trek? You know, non-Borg, non-confusing, non-Enterprise, new stuff? (Sorry about the colours, I was bored)

I think that trek should definitely keep trek moving into the future. We've all heard of the various timeships and temporal technologies that exist in the 26th centuries and beyond...

There are the (Fan-made) ideas of the Federation/Romulan alliance (Plus my previous implications, like the Federation/Klingon alliance becoming more fragile as a result, due to the continued strains between the Romulans and Klingons)

There are still large sections of the Alpha Quadrant that haven't been explored by the Federation, and on top of that, there are the other three Quadrants still to do!

There were our ideas of having a series based in a non-federation environment, like having a Romulan or Klingon series.

There are the new technologies from Voyager - What became of the Quantum Slipstream Drive, Transwarp Drive, Ablative Armour Generators, Transphasic Torpedoes, the Astrometric sensors...

There are the Tholians and Tzenkethi - these conflicts were never really sorted out, and what about races like the Gorn? They haven't been mentioned since the TOS episode, even though on maps they are shown to have an area of space that is about a third of the size of the Federation's! How could a race like that simply be forgotten?

As you can see, there are many topics that a new trek series could be about (There are obviously waaay more than I have put) So what are your ideas? Anyone want to send them to Paramount? Anyone want revenge for Enterprise? Speak now, or forever hold your peace...(And stop me from talking any further...)

yeah a gorn trek searies sounds good i wrote a mini gorn script for ya

Gorn captain: hisshiss hiss siss thisshiss?
Gorn first officer: hiss!
Gorn engineer: (in scotgornish accent) aye hiss hiss hississesh sssssir

*Audience* (Laughter)

"Advertisement for Gornish pasties"

You finaly get to see a CGI Gorn in enterprise shortley as well as archer and crew running around wearing TOS gear and flying a TOS Constitution class ship, in episode "in a mirror darkley" cant wait. heres a tidbit for you, when gene rodenberry Created "Andromeda" he orriginaly intended it to be a sequel to trek TOS, script writers just reinvented it the alliance was supposed to be all the major players out of trek uniting then collapsing, id personaly enjoy a star trek version of firefly or restart the old 5 year missions into deep space, all the major wars are over and all our enemies are now our friends, lets go see whats out there

'Where to, Captain?'
'Take us...out there'


(Kirkgorn) His...hishiss...hisss!
(Woman) Hiisss...
(Bonesgorn) Hisss...dead Jim!


I didn't know that about Andromeda. I knew that Roddenberry created it (Obviously) but I didn't know it was meant to be related to trek. Makes sense really, since some of the CGI effect have looked rather familiar on occaisions... 8O

i want i series about the tribble-wars

I didn't realise it was much of a war - Klingons send fleet. Tribble Homeworld goes boom. The end.

I heard that Tribbles are allergic to Klingons. Is this true?

BUT! Capturing the Tribble side of things!
Romance (which, judging from the No. of offsping, they have plenty of), brave Tribble commanders, Death by Bat'Leth!
:D:D
GOOOOO... TRIBBLES!!!

btw, I think they WERE alergic

Explains why they went mad whenever a Klingon got near! (And why the Klingons were disturbed by them)

I'm gonna have to get mistress to make an ode to the Tribbles...

Explains why they went mad whenever a Klingon got near! (And why the Klingons were disturbed by them)

I'm gonna have to get mistress to make an ode to the Tribbles...

tribbles are supposed to be empathic and the pure agression freaks em out, as far as i know they breed like gremlins with water, eat devide, if one gets onto a crop producing planet your doomed, i presume the klingons experienced this and exterminate them on sight

I'd thought of something. A show while they were just establishing Earth and the Federation. Not realy trek, I know, but I'd like it.

Just a thought

I have an idea based on what you said, CVN...WHY NOT LET ENTERPRISE CONTINUE TO SEASON 7?

That would allow the Romulan wars build a platform for the Federation to be built!

It would allow it to have a decent ending as well (That's evil to the fact that we will miss so much, not coz I didn't want it to have one..)

Anything to get more Romulans on the screen. A, Matress?
Too bad they killed the show... They would have come to some amazing events. (Assuming they didn't screw up the time line )

I know, it would have been great to see the Klingons calling for help because of the mighty Tribble empire's terrible attacks, and what about the Federation/Romulan alliance against Gach?

We're going to miss out on so much!

Come on people, Enterprise Sux. How come Archer's ship had touch screen stuff and Dilithum when Kirk still had switches, knobs and originally Lithum. It dosent make sense, would have been good if they followed the timeline proply but Enterprise her self looks too new. Im glad they stoped it. Im still sticking to my original post in here, i really like the idea of Borg Bio Ships (go back and read it if you dont know what im on about)

Agreed, the Federation time-line integrety would have best been perserved if all those temporal agents concentrated on deleting ENTERPRISE out of the time-line

I'm sorry, what page are Bio-ships on?

OMG! YOUR RIGHT!! id better run down to microsoft and tell them to stop using touch screens .. OMFG!! i forgot sony!!! bloody DS!! TABLETS! IPODS!!! NOOOOOOO .. plus you forgot in the original trek the enterprise fired lasers and not phasers and sets that wobbled .. are wobbly sets part of the genre too? lets face it some of the technology we use now is more advanced than some stuff on TOS ... they never used data pads they used a clip board and pen .. and quite a few buttons and knobs ARE used on enterprise but not on alien ships .. i mean in engineering they have big sodding levers the same as the transporter, similar to what they use in air craft, i mean granted a lot of it does look more advanced but thats only because were more advanced now than in the 60's and can make things apear more realistic... imagine what TOS would look like made now rather than in the 60's .. how would YOU design the tech level between now and TOS? demand all sets be white? all doors red? no dilithium or lithium warp drive just antimatter? these are the adventures of the starship enterprise, boldly going .... nowhere ... because our ship would look like a cross between a duck and a tootsie pop, seeking out new life and civilisations so they can laugh at us ... KIPTIN our ratings have fallen! ... if enterprise sucks so much how come such a big stink has been kicked up about it? i dont remember that with TNG DS9 or Voyager being canceled and they were damn fine if you ask me

Come on people, its not Enterprise that sucked, its the Original Series (not counting some of the original movies). It seems like Kirk's Enterprise caused more inconsistency issues than Archer's did.

But in all seriousness SThedgeHog, Michae1ange1o has a very good point. Should we have had Archer's Enterprise look crappier (if such a thing is possible) than Kirk's? Enterpise probably would have been canceled before the first season would have been over. Just imagine what the Bridge set would look like! Like the man said, they werent even using some tech that we have available to us today.

Also like Michae1 said, they did a prety good job of makin the ship resemble some of the TOS designs. There are many levers and knobs, and they even have that stupid "Sensor Hood" that Spock was always looking into.

I've found out that the majority of the people who complain about Enterprise are the ones who have seen very little of the show (much like I used to be). Or if they had seen alot, it was the begining epiosdes, which many of those werent that good anyways. The series kept getting better as it went along, and thats why it sucks the show got cancelled. It would have just kept gaining steam until it would have culminated in the Earth vs. Romulan war.

Yes, I'd much rather see the show cancelled, than to be forced to watch something like a big war between Humanity and the Roms.

True, I only saw season 1. And it mostly sucked...

Ok Ok, i know it wouldnt work changing Archers ship, but thats the main point. Why did they have to do it in the first place, they should not gop back in time and do prequles. I cant think of any prequals that actually work, and i know we have touch screen stuff now, but remember in trek Khan Nooten Sign (spelt really worng) happend in the mid 90's so thats where i time lines changed.

I dont liike Enterprise (but youve probally already gussed that ) I think they should end it, AND LEAVE IT ENDED, and erase it from the time line, that way the rest of trek works, and ppl who like Enterprise will have to settle that its Not Real Trek.

I do have some trek ideas about why Enterprise doesn't fit in very well (Ignoring the temporal stuff) - WORLD WAR THREE!

No offense, but Earth goes to war. This time it's nuclear. This time it wipes out governments. This time it wipes out currencies. This time it sends Earth into a sort of second dark age! 8O

Sure, Cochrane built the Phoenix - but it took him something like ten years! The people that worked around him did it because they thought it would be a chance to start a new life or something...or they just wanted a change to their lives, like something fun, after having a world war!

So how does this fit in to Enterprise do you ask? Well think of it this way. World War Three made money an extinct object. Without money, technological progress ground to a halt. People weren't being paid, there were no facilities, there was no equipment - so there was no research (Other than by the truly dedicated, of course)

Any facilities or equipment that were available before WW3 were likely destroyed - so basically, there was almost no technology left on Earth - unless it could be used for Human survival.

The war would have knocked Earth back, and even with Vulcan 'help', it would have been an upward struggle. But we know Earth made it. We know Humanity survived. Enterprise and the other incarnations are the testament to that.

Most of the technology that we see on Enterprise was either 'reinvented', or it was given to us by the Vulcans. Perhaps this could explain why Enterprise seems too advanced. Anyway, Humanity was a needy race. The Vulcans decoded that it would be logical to give us some help getting back on our feet, so they loaned some technology to us.

50 years later, disease, poverty, and war are gone. Warp 5 engines are a reality, and Enterprise is reaching for the stars.

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Basically, this waffle is a trekky explanation as to why Enterprise had too few knobs and clipboards!

I know I'm gonna catch hell over this, but what about a new movie that focused on the temperal wars? It could help explain some of the timeline stuff in enterprise.... or we could just let it be as it is and not do that movie lol.

I'm still stuck on my academy idea after the dominion war.
It'd be a show based on the academy, but also the rebuilding of san fan, and earth.

Actually I think thats a good idea... the academy one....