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Jarok
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Joined: 30 Jan 2005, 01:00 Posts: 165 Location: Lincoln, NE
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C-3PO is easily scrap, from either party.
So would ONE or possibly TWO Borg drones from the Cylon. But any more and any Cylon is SOL. Resistance is Futile!
Remember that even though Picard disengaged the holodeck safeties, the 'bullets' were still force-field projections of the holodeck, and NOT real projectiles. The Borg didn't have time to adapt to the energy patterns. If bullets are the 'magic bullet' against the Borg, why isn't Starfleet arming themselves with TR-116's[1] on every ship?
Stopping real bullets would only be a matter of deploying their personal shields. Their shields apparently adapt to whatever weapon is used on them. (phasers, etc). Although for whatever reason they are less effective hand-to-hand, if there was some real vulnerability to Borg personal shields to projectile weapons, Starfleet would be crankin 'em out (see above). Contrary to commenly held belief, it is difficult to believe that Starfleet is that incompetent! So either everyone in Starfleet is an idiot, or there is an actual reason they don't use bullets! Picard took the Borg off guard and got lucky. A Cylon might not be so fortunate.
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[TR-116 comes from 'Field of Fire', a DS9 episode mentioned later in the thread by cdrwolfe. Thanks, btw]
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Rigel
Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 15 Nov 2004, 01:00 Posts: 538 Location: FL
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_________________ Si vis pacem para bellum.
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The_Logical_Man
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Joined: 16 Apr 2005, 01:00 Posts: 49 Location: Kling, Qo'noS
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_________________ "Then perhaps today IS a good day to die!
Helm, prepare for RAMMING SPEED!" - Worf
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UnDated
Lieutenant Junior Grade
Joined: 29 Jun 2005, 01:00 Posts: 259
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| 25 Aug 2005, 23:14 |
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cdrwolfe
Combat Engineer
Joined: 18 Jul 2005, 01:00 Posts: 1001
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Projectile weapons do exist, remember one was used in DS9 by a Vulcan to kill people. the bullet was "teleported" in but still a bullet none the less.
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| 26 Aug 2005, 13:21 |
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TrekBoyChris
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Joined: 17 Jun 2005, 01:00 Posts: 1657 Location: USS Victory - NCC 362447
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The only guns i've seen in trek was when Picard shoots tonnes of Borg in the Holodeck with Lily in First Contact. 
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| 26 Aug 2005, 16:11 |
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The_Logical_Man
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Joined: 16 Apr 2005, 01:00 Posts: 49 Location: Kling, Qo'noS
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Tonnes being 2?
The DS9 episode "field of fire" we see the gun with transporter bullets.
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| 26 Aug 2005, 16:54 |
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Rigel
Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 15 Nov 2004, 01:00 Posts: 538 Location: FL
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Ok, in the TNG episode 'The Finest Duty' Wesley and his academy buddies attempt a maneuver in a training excercise, with some bad results.
1. What was the name of the maneuver?
2. What made it so dangerous?
3. What was the name of Wesley's squad?
4. Who was that squads leader?
5. And which semi-famous ST gardener makes an appearance in this episode?
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| 26 Aug 2005, 18:20 |
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Abbs
Cadet
Joined: 12 Aug 2005, 01:00 Posts: 60 Location: England
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1) The Kolvoord Starburst
2) It involves flying in a *very* tight formation at high speed and the igniting of plasma trails
3) Nova Squadran
4) Nicholas Lacarno
5) Boothby
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| 26 Aug 2005, 19:04 |
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TrekBoyChris
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Joined: 17 Jun 2005, 01:00 Posts: 1657 Location: USS Victory - NCC 362447
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Is it a TNG episode where there's some Cadets in a shuttle near Saturn and one of the ships gets destroyed and someone dies? Or is that the same episode?
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| 26 Aug 2005, 19:17 |
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Abbs
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TrekBoyChris
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| 27 Aug 2005, 22:58 |
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Jarok
Ensign
Joined: 30 Jan 2005, 01:00 Posts: 165 Location: Lincoln, NE
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_________________ "With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censored, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
Jean-Luc Picard, quoting judge Aaron Satie
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| 28 Aug 2005, 17:47 |
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TrekBoyChris
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Jarok
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_________________ "With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censored, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
Jean-Luc Picard, quoting judge Aaron Satie
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| 30 Aug 2005, 03:20 |
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TrekBoyChris
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You wouldn't even know about your whole day 
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| 30 Aug 2005, 12:13 |
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Jarok
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_________________ "With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censored, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
Jean-Luc Picard, quoting judge Aaron Satie
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Rigel
Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 15 Nov 2004, 01:00 Posts: 538 Location: FL
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skeeter
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Joined: 22 Apr 2005, 01:00 Posts: 1527 Location: UK
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Which episode in DS9 did the actor who played Tuvok in Voyager appear. And what was his character in ds9 for bonus points 
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TrekBoyChris
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Joined: 17 Jun 2005, 01:00 Posts: 1657 Location: USS Victory - NCC 362447
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Uh-Oh, DS9 is not my strong point! All i know about Tuvok is that he's played by Tim Russ and he's TO onboard Voyager and appears in ST-Generations as TO (i think) 
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| 04 Sep 2005, 11:00 |
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Rigel
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Mark_campbell
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Joined: 28 Oct 2004, 01:00 Posts: 100
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The episode with the barium sweep on the ship, his group (whos name if they had one escapes me) tried to steal stuff from the warp core, probably anti matter (you can tell i didnt google this) Tim Russ was part of the group, and picard bagged him in a duke nukem style killing spree... very starfleet
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Rigel
Lieutenant Commander
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Abbs
Cadet
Joined: 12 Aug 2005, 01:00 Posts: 60 Location: England
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_________________ -Brexan
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Mark_campbell
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Mark_campbell
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Matress_of_evil
Evil Romulan Overlord of Evil - Now 100% Faster!
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The fourth one is Quark. Haven't got a clue what episode it was, but I remember him being up on the viewscreen. 
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ftranschel
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Quark did not appear in a ST movie. He appeared at least one time in TNG:
- When the Enterprise was searching for L'ursa and B'Thor (TNG: Firstborn)
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| 06 Sep 2005, 12:28 |
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Rigel
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Abbs
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_________________ -Brexan
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