Guys, we're not talking about the Galaxy class here. There is currently no info anywere on the web that states the Valdore was the 1st of her class. Additionally, just because the Federation names her classes after the first ship produced doesn't mean another race will.
According to http://www.decipher.com, who owns the rights to the ST CCG and thus anything that is made public must be confirmed by and recieve approval from Paramount, the class name is Norexan. This can also be found on the formentioned http://www.stiff.net, http://www.ditl.org, http://www.memory-alpha.org, http://www.trekwarfare.org, and numberous other sites and forums on the web.

I think Valdore would be beter because I think its a more popular name than the Norexan......I think..........

The Defiant class was first mentioned in "Dogs Of War"DS9. Although since the Defiant was the first of the class, the class couldn't have been named anything else anyway

Nebula class was mentioned in "The Wounded" DS9

Excelsior class was given in TNG, and also in "Paradise lost" DS9, the Excelsior was obviously Excelsir class.


Nobody ever called the Defiant Escort class or heavy escort class. Ship types are entirely different things to ship classes! The Defiant is an Escort ship, but she's Defiant class, therefore a Defiant class Escort.


Just in case anyone's not familiar with either Star Trek, or ancient naval tradition. The first ship of a new class has the class name. All subsequent vessels are of that class.

The USS Galaxy was seen in "Tears Of The Prophets" DS9, she took a lot of damage, but survived as she was one of the ships waiting to help the Enterprise in Nemesis.

How do you know that the uss galaxy was one of the ships waiting to help the enterprise? Did you zoom into that chart or something?

I saw the names and registry numbers on my big screen when they zoomed in on the display.

I paused my DVD and read them.... I am a nerd.

well i never got around to do it... i guess i want to know the other ships also.

It's a bit silly actually, like the class reunion of the prototype ships.

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Starfle ... roup_Omega

As well as the Galaxy...

The registries for the Nova and the Intrepid are consistent with being the prototypes for the Equinox and Voyager respectively.

The Aries and Hood we've seen before in TNG, both Excelsiors I believe.

The Archer is obviously a tip of the hat to Enterprise. The registry places it around Excelsior/Miranda times.

It all comes back to the Canon argument I wouldn't mind seeing what'd happen the the Schimitar if it faced Omega. Bye Bye Schinzon

You do realize how laughable that sounds right? Paramount does not give a flying %&@# about Star Trek. At most one person looked that card game over to make sure there was nothing offensive in it, and it was good to go.

By that same line of thinking, any Star Trek book also must meet Pramounts approvial. So, since the name was published in two seperate books as Mogai class, we should go with what paramount says, right... (BTW, in not arguing for that class, I know when I'm beaten, ust trying to make a point here).

Also all the sites you listed. They are all fine sites, but all made by fanboys. Some info is correct, some they just pulled out their asses.

Your logic is flawless Rigel.

At least Valdore has the advantage of having been said on screen.

Based on all that, I still vote Valdore.

As SOM said, the Valdore was named onscreen, so we can't dispute that. We aren't saying the Valdore is the first of the class, and we aren't saying it IS the Valdore class. We're just saying that we'd like to call it the Valdore class for all intents and purposes of the BOTF2 'canon' game.

You have to remember, the 'canon game' will not be 110% loyal to everything that is trek - it will just be as loyal as it can be from a playability point of view. Some changes will have to be made to make it playable.

So does it really matter so much what we call it? If people don't like it, then they can mod their game! So what's the problem?

Besides, Valdore sounds more Romulany to me!

, If the game was completely canon it would probably be a lot more boring

Same difference. Norexan just sounds better to me when I say it together with D'Deridex

EDIT: as if it'll make a difference if my battle summary says "40 Norexan Warbirds destroyed" od "40 Valdore Warbirds destroyed"

Valdore it is, then. Though I realy do not care much. They both sound Romulan enough to me.

I completely agree with this even though I suggested adding the Mogai name. I just did it because I felt like if we were going to vote on it we should have all the mentioned names before we started. I actually voted for Norexan. (IMO the baddest Rommy ships should always have one "x" in their class name. It makes it easier for my Negh'Vars' targeting sensors when they just have to target all ships with the letter "x" in them )

Fine then, i'll just target...your apostrophes!

You are right though, there wouldn't be any point in having a poll with only half the options available! 8O

well i set the poll to run 10 days and so far norexan is way out in front.

Yeah I think it sounds best, and in terms of Canon-ness, they both could be used, so Norexan wins on name alone

Oh well, Norexan it is then.

Like I said, it can be changed anyway, so it doesn't exactly matter too much.

And when you see the ship everyone nows what class it is wheter it is Norexan or valdore

Well, yes. That is, if they manage to see it before my photons turn it into SRSD.

8O Photons????My quantums will rip your ship and the Valdore\Norexan into tiny peaces

Naval Ship Classes/Designations are set up as this

Class:
Military Designation:
Designation Run:
Ship Name:

So as look at the U.S.S. Enterprise CVN-65

Class: Nimitz
Military Designation: Aircraft Carrier
Designation Run: 65
Ship Name U.S.S. Enterprise
-----
The U.S.S. Defiant (Star Trek)

Class: Defiant
Military Designation: Heavy Escort
Designation Run: NX
Ship Name: U.S.S. Defiant

I'm sure there is no U.S.S. Heavy Escort floating around in ST.

So as for the Norexan/Valdore why can't we go as follows

Class: Valdore
Military Designation: Heavy Cruiser
Designation Run: (Dev's Magic)
Ship Name: Norexan

We can't go with that as we go with the following (as concluded from the poll):

Class: Norexan
Military Designation: Warbird II
Designation Run: (Dev's Magic)
Ship Name: R.N.S. Valdore

that works also, but using Warbird is kind of a Nic-name it is like a US Fighter Pilot calling out a MiG on his six. Warbird or BOP would be calling the same thing. their Military would be like i.e. attack cruiser, or fighter, bomber etc.

You guys are just going back and forth on semantical bs. From the poll, shes gonn be the Norexan no matter what you make her military designation.

Ship class != Military Designation.
As Valcoren explained in his posts, a military designation is more like the 'role' of a ship. i.e. rairder, cruiser, heavy cruiser, warbird.

A Warbird, Valcoren, is a designation just as a Cruiser is. As shown here. Stop thinking like a Human! The Norexan is as much a Warbird as a D'Deridex. I even think that the 'Bird of Prey' is a designation as well. The class name of it would be the B'rel. You could probably assign the K'Vort the same designation

we are aware of the poll and I personally have no problem with the naming. I would like to see something like this though when targeting a ship that the sensors pick up on.

Class:
Military Designation:
Designation Run:
Ship Name: