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captain_picard
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Well my question is the following...
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| 12 Apr 2010, 18:21 |
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AlexMcpherson
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because as rush said
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| 12 Apr 2010, 18:51 |
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AlexMcpherson
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Captain Bashir
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There are a lot of potential gaps here:
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| 13 Apr 2010, 02:58 |
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AlexMcpherson
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There are several points I think I need to hit: The aliens Although if they had, I'm sure strong alcohol was involved, 
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Captain Bashir
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So are you saying they are afraid, or the atmosphere was toxic or just they hadn't been drinking enough? 
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| 13 Apr 2010, 14:46 |
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captain_picard
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I agree that there are gaps in the plot. But Or and finally,
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"Seize the time, Meribor. Live now; make now always the most precious time. Now will never come again" -- Picard (The Inner Light)
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AlexMcpherson
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*snicker*
We have no idea on even if those 'fighters' were manned. All we do know is that one of the ships detached off in Air, and one latched on, created a hole in the hull, and through it sucked Chloe into it, then left... Maybe it's automated? I mean look at the other ships we've had so far. Death gliders: crew of 2. Wraith dart: crew of 1. this alien' fighter: crew of none perhaps? Destiny itself doesn't require a crew....
What? It's a valid point.
and if they were attached to the hull (only 'not drilled into' until 1x11) for long periods of time serving as tracking devices, then I very much doubt they'd send one of their own just to sit there for ages.
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Captain Bashir
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OK really good point.
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| 14 Apr 2010, 02:21 |
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Captain Bashir
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Rewatched the episode.
CB
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| 15 Apr 2010, 03:59 |
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Captain Bashir
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So what did everyone think about the latest episode?
Shuttles:
The Planet:
Exploring Destiny:
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captain_picard
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Shuttles:
The planet:
Exploring Destiny:
Interactions:
Bottom line:
_________________ "Never give up. Never surrender." -- Kenneth_of_Borg
"Seize the time, Meribor. Live now; make now always the most precious time. Now will never come again" -- Picard (The Inner Light)
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| 18 Apr 2010, 10:27 |
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Captain Andrew
8 of 9, Tertiary Adjunct of Unimatrix 001
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Alrighty, I have to chime in here, even though I'm not a big fan of SGU  . Not really a spoiler but it feels like proper format for this thread:
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| 18 Apr 2010, 14:05 |
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Captain Bashir
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Shuttle:
Interactions:
Atlantis:
Anyway, I think the show is getting more interesting.
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| 18 Apr 2010, 14:43 |
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AlexMcpherson
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First on Atlantis:
now SGU:
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| 18 Apr 2010, 15:33 |
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captain_picard
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_________________ "Never give up. Never surrender." -- Kenneth_of_Borg
"Seize the time, Meribor. Live now; make now always the most precious time. Now will never come again" -- Picard (The Inner Light)
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| 18 Apr 2010, 17:42 |
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AlexMcpherson
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Seconded. [spoi- Ah damnit... 
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Captain Andrew
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Well, ok, granted. If they lost all of their planets, they technically lost the war. The replicators were not just a failed experiment, they're the experiment that eventually destroyed the last of the Ancients. Or did the ancients fully ascend before being completely destroyed? I can't remember. I think some ascended, and then the others were simply killed by the replicators. But I guess technically the Ancients "lost" their war.... well, back to work... 
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AlexMcpherson
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The war lost against the wraith.
The last remaining (known) ancients in the galaxy were killed by the Replicators.
The group previously thought "last remaining" blew up their ship to prevent the wraith getting uberfast hyperdrives.
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| 18 Apr 2010, 20:20 |
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Captain Bashir
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Episode -- "Faith" What if the planet.... This episide gives a "Battlestar Gallactica twist" to SGU (Oop - corrected "who the frack" indeed  ). What background element is manipulating the chessboard? CB
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| 22 Apr 2010, 02:42 |
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AlexMcpherson
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Stu? Who the frack's stu? SGU. And I doubt it. The surface of Abydos was basically destroyed, and the team went to a fake abydos' created by Oma in 'Full Circle', but then the planet itself was still there. She just altered the surface or maybe never did that, or it wasn't even her, but the abydonians, and when SG-1 went to abydos, they were shifted out of normal space/time to the same plane of existence that Daniel went to when he was on the replicator ship when it went *really quiet* puff. You know, the half way up the ladder Diner.
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Captain Bashir
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I didn't see the SG-1 episode you are referring to so I would have to accept that you are correct. Captain Bashir
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| 22 Apr 2010, 13:57 |
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AlexMcpherson
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What needs mentioned is in SG-1, it was strongly implied that there were *that* many inhabitable planets because of extensive terraforming... and also implied it was the Ancients who did that.
Just as either they and/or the wraith did in Pegasus.
But Destiny and those gate ships are in galaxies not visited by the Ancients. And we don't know if those aliens are space nomads, or what. Only that in several months, there have only been a handful of star systems found with inhabitable planets, and even then one was *barely* inhabitable, the one they were gonna evac to that time the destiny lost power and had to go for refuelling, and theyd also had that not-at-all-inhabitable ice planet.
And not to mention the breathable-atmo-but-definitely-not-inhabitable "Air" planet. Sun Stroke would hit pretty quick there if they stayed longer than the team had.
And we don't know the range of the destiny's Gate. Given that even the ice planet got one, I would say that the range is only short, definitely nowhere near the range of the MW galaxy stargates given the same power level. You know, efficiency of power used directly in maintaining a wormhole, we know longer distance needs a lot more power, yet we don't know if Pegasus stargate was that much more efficient or just 'digital' as the only change between version "2" and pegasus' version "3".
So the destiny stargate **definitely** can't reconnect to earth without ***far far far*** more juice than even the Icarus' base' used in connecting *to* the destiny.
Anyone wanna fault my logic?
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| 22 Apr 2010, 16:32 |
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Captain Bashir
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No, makes sense.
I'm gonna bet that the group gets back some other way than gating. OR, the ancients did something on the gate ships where there was a final gate with an incredible power supply that could get them back.
So the episode "Human"
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| 25 Apr 2010, 15:29 |
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AlexMcpherson
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I'm curious if they might find the "Transporter through Stargate" tech aboard, the stuff Merlin had in place for his trifecta planet thing from 'The Quest'.
And about "human"
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| 25 Apr 2010, 15:46 |
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AlexMcpherson
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Holy ****.
Spoilers for 'Lost'. Big end-of-episode spoilers.
I do feel vindicated in my continued insistence that the mk1 gates had a very short range, and the graphics featured in this episode does confirm this. I also haven't said so in spoilers as its not so much a specific spoiler, as a logical deduction made from first-half-season episode's comments and the entire premise of "one or two" stargates per stop.
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| 01 May 2010, 22:57 |
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Captain Bashir
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So...
In the beginning, like a lot of other people I did not like all the "Stone Journeys" back to earth. However, I am starting to appreciate the importance of the back story. We have a much better feeling for Greer and why he has an anger problem. Same holds true for Rush.
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| 02 May 2010, 04:37 |
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captain_picard
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_________________ "Never give up. Never surrender." -- Kenneth_of_Borg
"Seize the time, Meribor. Live now; make now always the most precious time. Now will never come again" -- Picard (The Inner Light)
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| 02 May 2010, 10:33 |
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Captain Bashir
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Wow I missed...
Captain Bashir
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captain_picard
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Don't worry Captain, Starfleet Intelligence has sent me some intel (Captain's clearance and above needed):
Also, about the...
_________________ "Never give up. Never surrender." -- Kenneth_of_Borg
"Seize the time, Meribor. Live now; make now always the most precious time. Now will never come again" -- Picard (The Inner Light)
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