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Author:  siron [ 01 Jun 2006, 21:25 ]
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Nice project guys. Always a pleasure to see that you work on a sequel of Steve Barcia's masterpiece. Personally I prefer his Master of Orion II because of its ship design. True, the Moo2 AI can't compete there against humans but that's the reason I just play MP games without any AI. And mebbe you dont know but it is even possilbe to play MP online (the dos version works online even A LOT of faster than the moo2 win version in a LAN). Just recently DosBox implemented IPX support so that there are 2 nice options to play it online now :

a) Kali:
http://masteroforion2.blogspot.com/2004 ... nline.html

b) DosBox:
http://masteroforion2.blogspot.com/2006 ... guide.html
Author:  Nemitor_Atimen [ 01 Jun 2006, 22:18 ]
Post subject:  Re: Master of Orion II online
thats nice.

never played it.

dont use Kali either (I use Hamachi for gaming online)
Author:  Matress_of_evil [ 02 Jun 2006, 13:42 ]
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I've never played any of the MOO games, i've never heard of Kali and DosBox, and who's Steve Barcia? :oops:

Anyways, welcome to the site, and happy posting. :mrgreen:
Author:  mstrobel [ 02 Jun 2006, 16:04 ]
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Matress_of_evil wrote:
I've never played any of the MOO games, i've never heard of Kali and DosBox, and who's Steve Barcia?
Steve Barcia founded Simtex, which became Microprose. Both MoO and MoO2 were released under the Microprose name, as was BOTF.

I never played the original MoO, but I've toyed around with an open-source recreation of the game written in Java. I used a lot of ideas from its AI code in Supremacy.

MoO2 was much more fun in my opinion. It does't have as much replay value, but I really enjoyed playing it the first few times. I only have the Windows version, but I may have to try to snag the DOS version.

Mattress, how is it you're helping design a new game and you haven't even played some of the more popular hits from the same genre? I think you need to do some "research" and load them up :lol:.
Author:  Centurion_VarDin [ 02 Jun 2006, 16:36 ]
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I agree. MoO2 is the best TBS game ever made. I still think it's even better than BotF. Played the game for years and years. Never online, though. At this point I think it's too old actualy.

It's a shame that MoO3 was such a failure. The genre itself was just brilliant!
Author:  mstrobel [ 02 Jun 2006, 17:09 ]
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I agree. I had such high hopes for MoO3, but the game just wasn't any fun. It felt too much like playing with spreadsheets :(. I doubt we'll ever see a MoO IV after that catastrophic failure. However, I'm pleased that GalCiv2 turned out pretty well. At least the genre isn't dead :).

I have to wonder how diplomacy works in MoO2 online. When you're talking to another human player's diplomat, does it work in realtime just like the AI diplomats? What's the deal with that?
Author:  Centurion_VarDin [ 02 Jun 2006, 18:16 ]
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In general, from what I read on that site, there doesn't exist much online diplomacy as everyone is repulsive. It would be just aimed on killing each other I presume. Siron, if I am wrong, please correct me.
Author:  siron [ 02 Jun 2006, 18:54 ]
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General_Nemitor wrote:
dont use Kali either (I use Hamachi for gaming online)


yes, it is also possible with hamachi...but afaik it is not so popular to use that method.

http://lordbrazen.blogspot.com/2006/02/ ... -with.html
Author:  siron [ 02 Jun 2006, 18:56 ]
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mstrobel wrote:
I only have the Windows version, but I may have to try to snag the DOS version.


99% of the CDs contain both versions. And even if your CD doesnt have it there is still a simple workaround, check out step 3 in this guide:

http://masteroforion2.blogspot.com/2004 ... nline.html
Author:  siron [ 02 Jun 2006, 18:58 ]
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Centurion_VarDin wrote:
Never online, though. At this point I think it's too old actualy.


There is still a core of roundabout 40 players. Some of them play it almost a decade.

There are also many new players...but since many of them refuse to adapt they generally leave after a few weeks.....
Author:  siron [ 02 Jun 2006, 18:59 ]
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Centurion_VarDin wrote:
In general, from what I read on that site, there doesn't exist much online diplomacy as everyone is repulsive. It would be just aimed on killing each other I presume. Siron, if I am wrong, please correct me.


In general you are right. Rep is standard there and then there are just Non-Agression-Treaties. But you can also ask to ban repulsive or play/create some mod...

Sometimes I take charismatic in regular...and with some luck it works.
Author:  Matress_of_evil [ 02 Jun 2006, 19:07 ]
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Err...no offense, Sirion, but could you please refrain from double-posting where possible?

If you have a point to add, then edit your existing post.

Double-posting is frowned upon in these forums. I'd edit your post for you if I could, but I don't personally have access to do so in this particular forum.

If you continue, one of the the other devs who does have access may delete your posts or will merge them.

This isn't a rant, it's just intended as a heads-up. :wink:
Author:  siron [ 02 Jun 2006, 19:30 ]
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Matress_of_evil wrote:
Err...no offense, Sirion, but could you please refrain from double-posting where possible?


???

How is double-posting defined on this board?

I just answered several different posts step by step. Thats afaik totally normal and no double-posting.

Btw. My nick is siron.[/i]
Author:  mstrobel [ 02 Jun 2006, 20:06 ]
Post subject:  Re: Master of Orion II online
I believe Mattress meant that instead of answering three different questions in three different replies, you could address all three questions in a single reply. You could use the [quote] blocks to indicate which posts you are replying to. It's just a courtesy that helps keep the threads shorter and easier to navigate.
Author:  Matress_of_evil [ 02 Jun 2006, 22:11 ]
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By double posting, I was referring to the fact that you've made multiple posts without any other replies inbetween.

As MStrobel said, you can
1) Use quotes to separate sections
2) Leave gaps in your post
3) Some other method, jusr as long it shows that you're referring to another point.

I personally leave a sentence, do 3 full stops, leave another sentence, then carry on. It's up to you how you do it, everyone is different.

Quote:
1







2




...

3

Oh, and sorry for getting your name wrong. :oops:
Author:  siron [ 03 Jun 2006, 09:46 ]
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This is really the first time I heard about this rule. Almost any board I am posting on treats this issue like newsgroups. When the previous posts in a thread are not much related to each other it is uncommon to summarize his response in one post. In most active forums I actually scroll down the posts when the first quote tag doesn't contain my nick.

I really think this "double-post" rule is very uncommon compared to "spam" or "cross-posting" rules. And yes, I still prefer to continue with my style (just to click at the right top of the post) since it is tedious to add the separations manually and to add the nicks manually in the quote tags, especially when you are new and very unfamiliar with the nicks. If this "double-post" thingi is actually a rule here (which I still can't believe) someone should add it under the rules section. At least I haven't found it there.
Author:  mstrobel [ 03 Jun 2006, 18:56 ]
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Well, one problem is that threads are displayed with n posts per page, and by adding more posts, you're effectively forcing the thread to continue for more pages than necessary. The rule seems quite reasonable to me, though you are right--it should be posted under the forum rules.
Author:  Matress_of_evil [ 04 Jun 2006, 00:39 ]
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It's best to think of it more as an unofficial rule - so you're excused for not knowing about it... :oops: :lol:

As MStrobel said, since the forums only show a certain number of posts per page, it forces people to constantly have to read new pages. This can be daunting for people who haven't read a few posts and see that a "whole new page" has been done.

And seriously, I didn't intend it as a rant at you, so don't take it that way. You can't be blamed for not knowing about an uncommon "rule" that isn't even posted.

Feel free to talk about whatever you like. We're all friends here... :twisted:

:lol:
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