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just thought that this was cheap and if ya wanna get it the day it comes out then ya can pre order it from here and have it deliverd for just short of £25

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27 Oct 2006, 13:49
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Preordered mine!!! Amazon don't even appear to have it listed yet lol.
Can't seem to beat that price anywhere - if you see it cheaper post it here

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Im going to wait till they drop it to £17.99 as i bet u any money it will.

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I still don't know if it'll support my graphics card or not... :(

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MOE, i can guarantee you 99% that it won't be supported :(. It's just too old mate, my current card is supposed to be able to play most new games but it's too crap to or if it can at 640x480 on minimum. It'd be a total waste of money imhaho. Your choice if you buy a 360 or a new graphics card.

btw, has your PC actually for AGP slot cos it's sorta surprising you'd have 2x Graphics Cards in a system that old - both occupying PCI slots? If so then the best card you can get is not a lot better then your current. I'll take a look on ebay though for you if you want

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u htink mine will supeforce 6200 so not the newest or oldest but i dunport it its a dunno if it will

yea i couldnt find it cheaper so thus me posting it on here lol

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Old?! My computer is barely a year old, and it's a lot better than some of the stats that people have posted on the site so far. As far as I can tell, it's only the graphics cards that are old, and maybe the processor but it's plenty fast so that doesn't matter.

There's no way i'm getting a 360 so i'll probably get a new graphics card. What's AGP though? And if you're gonna ask me to open up the case to check then forget it coz it's wires and stuff and i'm not gonna risk touching them and buggering it up! :lol:

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I'm assuming you mean it's a Geforce 6200 Billy. It should run it depending on your RAM because that card shares RAM with your system. 512MB is what you should have at the VERY least. 1GB should run it fine.

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AGP is an older slot style that video cards used for the tail end of the 90's and for most of the 21st century thus far. In fact, PCI Express has gained popularity in the last year or two because of better speed performance in communication between the card and the motherboard. All new computers within the last year SHOULD have a PCI Express video card. Thus, it'll be a pretty safe bet to run Legacy.

I'm slightly concerned that my Radeon Mobility 9700 might have some trouble. It's only 128 MB of video RAM, but I have 2 GB of system RAM to back it up with, so memory isn't the problem. I'm more concerned about the other technical requirements for the video card. But, I think I should be ok. Not awesome, but ok.

My laptop is roughly 2 years old, going on 3.

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@Azhdeen: I think you'd be able to run at the Mid-High end range. The 9700's memory is 128-bit so speed there shouldn't be an issue, and as you said, you have 2GB of RAM to back it up. The card also has Shader 2.0 so it should be able to handle the textures.

@Matress: If you can't help us we can't help you!!! :lol:
If you don't want to open the case, PC Wizard is a great program you can use to get the capabilities of your computer. This will tell us what port you have:
    1. Download and install fromhere
    2. Run the program
    3. Go to the Display area (paint brush on a screen)
    4. Click the Graphics card
    5. Under the Information tab, tell us what shows beside Bus Type


You can also post a screenshot if you want. It would help to show the other capabilities of the GFX card. The program will save a .bmp when you hit F11.

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Ha, sweet. I was looking for someone to releave my fears.

If the game runs like crap, it's your fault though :p

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lol, remember I said mid-high range, not UBER-MAX-TOTAL-AWESOME-TEN QUADRILLION-POLYGON mode. :lol: I'll want to see a screenie of your graphics settings in game if it doesn't work 8)

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Rofl! After my video card, my next bottleneck will most likely be my CPU time. 2.8 P4 single core ftl. I know Legacy isn't going to utilize dual-core technology, but considering background applications... I'm expecting some slowdown that a dual-core could otherwise handle. I'll make sure I minimize my background apps as much as possible when I complain :p

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Thanks for reminding me. I just pre-ordered mine from Amazon :).


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haha naything to help lol

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Yeah, the program says i've got AGP, Winterhawk. So does that mean I can run the game or not? :?

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It should run legacy just dont expect full detail or smooth frame rates much as it is a next gen title.

Since you have agp slot you can upgrade if u wanted to to somit a bit beefier like a 6600gt or 6800 card.


The minimum specs i would guess for playability would be.

2.5ghz cpu, p4 or amd 64.
1gb ram ddr400 or better
Geforce 6600gt / or ati equivelent. with 128mb ram onboard the card, tho 256mb is recommended.

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i would get it for my 360

but unfortunately, im poor.

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More than that on ebay, plus the 6600GT which costs about the same has the extra shaders and effects. I'd go with that instead personally. Or a 7600 model

What motherboard do you have? That'd tell us exactly what options are avalible.

As to PSU: I'd say it'll be about 350Wish so you're on the borderline for a 6600GT card. The 9800 cards use more power incidentlly.

Also i doubt the game will actually support the 9250 as it probably won't with mine. Even if you could play it, all be it at the lowest settings Legacy may not support that model. When we get the full specs that'll become clear.

You have to think in the end is it worth spending potentially quite a lot when in a few months 360s (Core) will be avalible for less than 150 on ebay. Your decision in the end of course though mate!

Is there any news of a Demo?

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You own a 360 but your poor 8O something there doesn't add up. :P

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i getting a 360 for free hahaha well not free i got it free on a £30 phone contract but its £30 a month anyway
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so its an ace deal lol

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Any idea why my latest post appeared half way up the page?

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More than that on ebay, plus the 6600GT which costs about the same has the extra shaders and effects. I'd go with that instead personally. Or a 7600 model

What motherboard do you have? That'd tell us exactly what options are avalible.

As to PSU: I'd say it'll be about 350Wish so you're on the borderline for a 6600GT card. The 9800 cards use more power incidentlly.

Also i doubt the game will actually support the 9250 as it probably won't with mine. Even if you could play it, all be it at the lowest settings Legacy may not support that model. When we get the full specs that'll become clear.

You have to think in the end is it worth spending potentially quite a lot when in a few months 360s (Core) will be avalible for less than 150 on ebay. Your decision in the end of course though mate!

Is there any news of a Demo?

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My Radeon 9700 is AGP, MoE. You'll be ok as long as the card supports 2.0 shaders (or higher) and contains enough pipelines/bandwidth to and from the motherboard. I think your card is actually a later model than mine.

Assuming you have plenty of system RAM (atleast 1gb), I don't see why your performance will be any different than mine, possibly even better.

Heh, to get the game for the 360, it's actually more money. I think the price is 60 bucks, and 40 bucks for PC. However, with the 360, you do not need to worry about hardware requirements and game performance. The game will be optimized for the 360 so it's pretty much worry-free. Modding it, however, will be a problem although I've heard rumors about some sort of system that Microsoft might support that would open up some modability for games among other things.

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You wont be able to get any mods on 360 compared to pc version.

Btw the raedon 9700 is miles better than moe's card. Also i dont believe the 9700 has pixel shaders better than 1.4 as i dont think 2.0 pixel shaders were out then.

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My Radeon 9700 is AGP, MoE. You'll be ok as long as the card supports 2.0 shaders (or higher) and contains enough pipelines/bandwidth to and from the motherboard. I think your card is actually a later model than mine.


My card is a Radeon 9250. Somehow I think a card designated 9250 is older than one that is designated 9700, as Skeeter said. We could be wrong though, hardware just doesn't make sense to me, at least.

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Posted by AzhdeenAssuming you have plenty of system RAM (atleast 1gb), I don't see why your performance will be any different than mine, possibly even better.


Yeah, i've got 1Gb RAM. My computer had 512Mb but I paid PC World 70 quid to upgrade it for me when I bought it.

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Posted by AzhdeenMy Radeon 9700 is AGP, MoE. You'll be ok as long as the card supports 2.0 shaders (or higher) and contains enough pipelines/bandwidth to and from the motherboard. I think your card is actually a later model than mine.


Umm...it's not shown in the screenshot that I posted, so god knows. It sounds like it won't run on my computer, so i'll just upgrade it. Anyone know what cards would be compatible?

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Oh, I thought you had one of the X series. My bad. You may need to upgrade it. Late model AGP's shouldn't be too bad nowadays now that PCIE is the fad. A 9800 would be a decent card at a cheap price, but you may want to go higher-end than that. Or buy a 360 and accept a life without mods for Legacy. :p

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Just like Matrox's Parhelia, Radeon 9700 will have four vertex shader units and it will support Pixel and vertex shader 2.0 -- the one that Microsoft will introduce with DirectX 9.


http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=4431

google search with Radeon 9700 +spec

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My mistake on the pixel shader and 9700 just thought it was for 9800 cards 2.0.

About the 92xx series, they are newer than 9700 but are alot less powerful and are only for basic computers.

Depending on the agp version of ur computer as latest slots are v3 i think. Then if you have v3 able slot then you can get any agp gfx card update. Tho 6800 or the like with power connectors you may need to check ur psu to see if its capable due to them requireing so much power (cards i mean)

As has been suggested a 9800 card will cost about 30-40 quid used.

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Just noticed your post Trekboy - you're not the only one its happening to - it's happening to Winterhawk and for some reason posts that I read are still marked as unread. Wierd...

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