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The longest-running search for ra­di­o sig­nals from al­ien civ­il­iz­a­tions is get­ting a burst of new data from an up­grad­ed tel­e­scope.

That means dramatically im­proved search ca­pa­bil­i­ties, proj­ect sci­en­tists say—but the full ben­e­fits will be real­ized only with pub­lic par­ticipa­t­ion. They’re are call­ing for new vol­un­teers for SETI@home, a proj­ect in which or­di­nary cit­i­zens do­nate un­used time on their com­put­ers to let the machines help comb through the search da­ta.

“The next genera­t­ion SETI@home is 500 times more pow­er­ful then an­y­thing an­y­one has done be­fore,” said proj­ect chief sci­ent­ist Dan Wer­thi­mer. “That means we are 500 times more likely to find” al­ien life—if enough new vol­un­teers join. Even if not, the up­grades still prom­ise an im­prove­ment of at least about 100-fold, he said.

Since it launched eight years ago, the Un­ivers­ity of Cal­i­for­nia, Berkeley-based SETI@home has signed up more than 5 mil­lion in­ter­est­ed vol­un­teers, ac­cord­ing to proj­ect sci­en­tists. It boasts the larg­est com­mun­ity of ded­i­cat­ed users of any In­ter­net com­put­ing proj­ect, they said: 170,000 devo­tees on 320,000 com­put­ers. This num­ber of com­put­ers should rise by an ad­di­tion­al mil­lion to han­dle the ex­pand­ed da­ta flow, Wer­thi­mer said.

SETI stands for Search for Ex­tra­ter­res­tri­al In­tel­li­gence. Pro­s­pec­tive vo­lun­teers are be­ing asked to visit the SETI@home web­site for in­for­ma­tion.

The in­creased amount of da­ta is a re­sult of new and more sen­si­tive re­ceivers and oth­er im­prove­ments to the world’s larg­est ra­di­o tel­e­scope in Are­ci­bo, Puerto Rico, said proj­ect lead­ers. The soft­ware used for the job, they added, has been has been up­grad­ed to deal with the surge of in­for­m­a­tion.

Ac­cord­ing to proj­ect sci­ent­ist Er­ic Ko­r­pela, the new da­ta amounts to 300 gi­ga­bytes per day; on a yearly basis that adds up to the amount of da­ta stored in the U.S. Li­brary of Con­gress. “That’s why we need all the vol­un­teers,” he said. “Ev­ery­one has a chance to be part of the larg­est pub­lic-par­ticipa­t­ion sci­ence proj­ect in his­to­ry.”

The 1,000-foot wide Are­ci­bo dish, which fills a val­ley in Puerto Rico, is part of the Na­t­ional As­tron­o­my and Ion­o­sphere Cen­ter ope­rated by Cor­nell Un­ivers­ity in Ith­a­ca, N.Y. Since 1992, Wer­thi­mer and his team have used ra­di­o ob­serva­t­ions at Are­ci­bo to rec­ord sig­nals from space and an­a­lyze them for pat­terns that could in­di­cate they were trans­mit­ted by a civ­il­iz­a­tion.

When the team’s in­com­ing da­ta over­whelmed its abil­ity to an­a­lyze it, the sci­en­tists con­ceived a “dis­tributed com­put­ing” proj­ect to har­ness many com­put­ers in­to one big supe­rcomputer to do the anal­y­sis. Since SETI@home was launched, oth­er dis­trib­ut­ed com­put­ing proj­ects have aris­en, from fold­ing@home to pre­dict the struc­tures of or­gan­ic molecules, to the newly-launched cos­mol­o­gy@home to mod­el pos­si­ble un­iverses. Most share the SETI@home plat­form.

“Un­til now, there has been enough com­put­ing pow­er to go around,” Wer­thi­mer said. What largely trig­gered the new flow of da­ta was the ad­di­tion of sev­en new re­ceivers at Are­ci­bo, which let the tel­e­scope rec­ord sig­nals from sev­en re­gions of the sky sim­ul­ta­ne­ous­ly in­stead of one, he added.

“The mul­ti­ple re­ceivers help us weed out in­ter­fer­ence bet­ter” and re­duce the chance of mis­tak­ing earthly sig­nals from al­ien ones, he said. No tell­tale sig­nals from an in­tel­li­gent civ­il­iz­a­tion have yet been iden­ti­fied.

“Earth­lings are just get­ting started look­ing at the fre­quen­cies in the sky; we’re look­ing only at the cos­mic­ally bright­est sources, hop­ing we are scan­ning the right ra­di­o chan­nels,” Wer­thi­mer said. “The good news is, we’re en­ter­ing an era when we will be able to scan bil­lions of chan­nels. Are­ci­bo is now op­ti­mized for this kind of search, so if there are sig­nals out there, we or our vol­un­teers will find them.”

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The world's larg­est single-dish ra­di­o tel­e­scope, the Are­ci­bo Ob­serv­a­to­ry in Puerto Rico is one of the larg­est cen­ters for re­search in ra­di­o as­tron­o­my. The huge "dish" is 1000 feet (305 me­ters) wide, 167 feet (51 me­ters) deep and co­vers about 20 ac­res (0.08 square km). (Cred­it: NAIC Are­ci­bo Ob­serv­a­to­ry/NSF)


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We already have a folding@home team, why not also a Seti@home team? Just imagine if WE were the ones to find ET...

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07 Jan 2008, 13:36
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I now have this on my system. Wow it is cool to watch. The graphics are awesome and for me most interesting.

you all might just wanna check it out. It has not slowed me down at all. No lag times on other programs ect.

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I used to run Seti years ago. Now that I've got a computer (on monday), with lots and lots of computational power, I think I have to do it. Either that or join the Folding team again (if you guys are still alive)

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Yep, the folding team is alive - just. I know that four people (Including myself) are still folding for the team, but we're returning more units and getting more points than four people alone can account for. Our folding stats also say that they have received units from eight separate computers in the last 50 days, so there's got to be more people hidden out there. :P

The BOTF2 team folding number is 46574 for anyone that wants to join.

Thanks to myself and Winterhawk, here are images of the two programs:

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looks like seti may have updated. When I used it last it had pretty graphs but looked more like folding.

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That's another reason why I posted this thread, Nem. :P

I got the image from Winterhawk. I haven't got Seti installed as i've got Folding. It would be nice if we had BOTF2 teams for both projects though. :)

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I think I'm still on the folding rankings, though probably pretty far down there. I wonder how fast I can catch up...

(edit: I just checked, I have 1% of Ringold's, and 2% of Matress')
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I recommend we focus on one as a team since then the rankings go up twice as fast. Of course, we can always have two teams though.

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I only check in once in a blue moon, happened to see this thread.. thought I'd just let you guys know I've put one machine back folding. Depending on how much work it does in a given day, looks like it's pulling in 500 to 1600 points a day. Average hasn't stabilized yet, only been doing it a few days.

http://kakaostats.com/t.php?t=46574

One nice thing about the projects on the BOINC platform is that points are more firmly attached to an account you own, rather than a name in a team, so if you change teams the points move with you. F@H doesnt have that. I bounce back every six months or so between the two. Currently bouncing from boinc back to FAH. :P

May or may not remember to swing back by, but just wanted to say I'm contributing to the team again.


30 Jan 2008, 04:43
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We already knew, Ringold! :P

Stumpy sent me a text message to check our folding points on the weekend, and there you were. Glad to have you back on the team, mate, our points were really dragging us down. We were dropping about 9 places a week on average before you showed up. :(

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You guys already knew over the weekend?

A cloaked Romulan warbird would have no chance with you guys :shock:


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Yep, he saw you all right. Eyes and ears everywhere...

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I would join back up, but Folding doesn't have quad core support :cry: (unless you do console, which I don't want)

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< public service announcement >
If you run linux, the SMP client works great there, huge point-per-day advantage over all the other platforms.

The Win SMP client I'm running now, it supports quad core, but it's also beta, and very tempermental. Note the 1700+ point WU's I'm starting to crank out though, heh. One more in the oven about done.

It doesn't install itself nicely as a service, they want you to watch it for bugs, but it can be done manually.

Their linux, mac, and windows SMP clients prefer quad core but run okay on dual-core as well (it still spawns 4 threads, but a future version of GROMACs, their science core, will support n threads; future-proofing). They've got tight time deadlines though, so have let it to run 12-18 hours minimum a day to hit the deadline. They'll slacken it a lot once it's no longer in beta.

BOINC will run 4 WU simultaneously, but so far only F@H has a native SMP app. The difference, of course, is purely philosophical from the user perspective.

</ public service announcement >

I guess I'd recommend BOINC for ya, though. If for whatever reason you don't like running it as a service, you'll absolutely hate the beta SMP client. I love the console client, and I dont even really like the SMP client. :P I just like the work units..


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I like GUI. I don't want to run the console version, and I wouldn't run it as a service :(

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http://kakaostats.com/t.php?t=46574

I return.

I kneel before my master, the NVidia GPU client running on my 8800GTS.

This one is a GUI client, with a display you can open to see whats its doing (like the GUI cpu client and Seti), but when its open the display is a CPU hog and really slows the work unit down. They're fixing that in the next version apparently, though. It eats, on average, about 7% of one CPU core. Have to be running certain driver sets, though. The full rundown is over on their website & forums. Until they nerf it, the 8800GTS is giving 18 - 20k points / week.

Btw, the forums, websites, and games look amazing compared to January when I was here last. Sweet!


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Hey Ringold, long time no see!

How the hell do you manage to do so much folding? I fold near 24/7 and i'm barely doing 600 points a week as you can see. You must have a supercomputer! 8)

I'm not running a GPU client at the moment. I had to reformat my computer a week or three ago and I lost the client; when I went on the folding website, I couldn't find the client for my computer! :cry:

I've got a 512mb Radeon X1650 Pro if you know where I can get the client from...

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