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| Author: | UnDated [ 31 Aug 2005, 19:57 ] |
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| Author: | ftranschel [ 31 Aug 2005, 20:54 ] |
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| Author: | Mangan [ 31 Aug 2005, 21:07 ] |
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If I could live in peak physical condition forever without aging, then I would. It is unlikely that one would ever grow bored since the world is a diverse and interesting place that constantly evolves and changes. If in the unlikelihood that I did get bored, I could then voluntarily end my life i.e assisted suicide or suicide. |
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| Author: | Centurion_VarDin [ 31 Aug 2005, 22:30 ] |
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This is quite a serious subject indeed, UnDated. Where I live (The Netherlands), euthanisia has been legalised for a long time. And rightfully so! There are lots of people alive after serious accidents or with even more serious diseases. If such a situation is real pointless (i.e. no room for improvement) euthanisia should be legal to be practiced with the patient's permission (request) or of the parents'. What this has to do with my preferable age.. Perhaps (hopefully) not that much. I like to be alive as long as I can make objective decisions about whatever. At the age of 70, the physical capabilities as are the mental ones ae decreasing rapidly. (in general). Once I am unable to be in control of my own decisions, I'd rather not make them at all. I believe experience of 'life' does not end after this one. There is no need in letting people suffer without any goal whatsoever. |
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| Author: | skeeter [ 31 Aug 2005, 23:29 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: would you like to live forever? |
Well this topics weird for a botf2 forum. But in answer id say yes id like to live forever as i hate the prospect of being decayed and imiaging what it would be like if i could feel it after i died. That really freaks me out so of course id do anything to survive for as long as i can but i hate the prospect also of being old and feeble and loosing bladder control and all that old people stuff like when ur 75 or older. I know stemcells are supose to be one idea scientists are looking at and also cryogenics but unforutunatly for cryogenics they chop your block off and freeze that and not your whole body. Why i have no idea lol but seems daft as ur not going to come back to life are you with just a head left. |
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| Author: | UnDated [ 31 Aug 2005, 23:36 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: would you like to live forever? |
Ah yes but this poll asks what age if you aged like normal so @ 130 u look like Dr. McCoy does in TNG pilot! |
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| Author: | UnDated [ 31 Aug 2005, 23:39 ] |
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yeah i think they freeze bodies too... but im not sure, maybe iit was the old style of doing it.... |
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| Author: | skeeter [ 01 Sep 2005, 00:30 ] |
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| Author: | Scatter [ 01 Sep 2005, 07:39 ] |
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| Author: | Centurion_VarDin [ 01 Sep 2005, 08:13 ] |
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| Author: | Scatter [ 01 Sep 2005, 08:47 ] |
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| Author: | Matress_of_evil [ 01 Sep 2005, 09:50 ] |
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It's not as if we aren't already - why do you think NASA was set up? If I was going to live forever, then the aging process would have to be stopped before I agreed to taking the wonder drug or whatever it was that made me live forever. I certainly wouldn't want to live to the age of 150 (Or more) and end up looking like a walking corpse! Like Centurion said, if you can't make your own decisions, why should you be essentially forced to live, simply because others can't stomach the thought of letting you pass away, or because the law says so? I totally agree with Euthanasia - as long as it is properly controlled, ie. 2 Doctors give the say-so, all the legal stuff is sorted out first, not forced into it, that sort of thing. Isn't it more humane to let someone die happily, surrounded by their family whilst they can still make their own decisions, or whilst the pain of their disease hasn't yet become unbarable? I just don't understand why the thought of letting/allowing a loved one die is less favourable than letting them live until their body falls apart around them, and they are unable to even look after themselves like even a child can. In this day and age where we can give people the choice and support they need to make their own decisions, why does the law forbid this? If anything, the law should support and cater for choices to be made, so people aren't forced to suffer an unbearable life of misery and pain. I know the law is simply a framework of rules, regulations, and punishments that are designed to regulate the way you live so that the people can be protected and assured of justice, but isn't the stopping of a humane way to die a form of preventing the justice that people need and want? Euthanasia should be allowed, especially if we're gonna live forever. ... Skeeter, i'm not an expert in Cryogenics or anything, but I believe the reason why only the head is usually preserved, is simply because it is easier to preserve just the head. Crygenics invloves freezing the body/body part as quickly as possible. The longer it takes for the freezing to occur, the bigger the ice crystals are, and the more damage that is done to the body by the ice. It is sort of the same with ice cream really. The longer the ice cream has taken to freeze, the larger the crystals are, and the 'grittier' it tastes. This is also why ice cream doesn't taste as nice when you get to the last couple of scoops at the bottom of the tub. The constant freezing and thawing of the ice cream means new ice crystals have formed at un uncontrollable rate, leading to large crystals, and a gritty texture. The smaller the object you freeze, the easier it is to control the freezing. It is easier to freeze the head in a controlled manner, than to freeze the entire body. Scientists also believe that by the time they have cracked how to Crygenically freeze a body and reanimate it, they will be able to 'build' a new body to attach the head to anyway, so the body essentially doesn't matter. This is why only the head is frozen, and not just the body. As Undated said though, this might be the 'old' way of doing it, afterall, new techniques for things are always being tested. Perhaps they know how to controllably freeze the entire body now? |
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| Author: | Mangan [ 01 Sep 2005, 09:51 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: would you like to live forever? |
Not likely Scatter. What is most probable is that their will be hundreds of wars of ethnic cleansing on the planet as nations battle for space and resources wiping out at least half of the world population in the process. Then things will quiet down again and the population will grow to pre-war levels; then the wars may break out again. |
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| Author: | TrekBoyChris [ 01 Sep 2005, 15:57 ] |
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| Author: | xir_ [ 01 Sep 2005, 17:47 ] |
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| Author: | TrekBoyChris [ 01 Sep 2005, 17:50 ] |
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| Author: | Mentat [ 01 Sep 2005, 17:51 ] |
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| Author: | Martocticvs [ 01 Sep 2005, 18:23 ] |
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| Author: | xir_ [ 01 Sep 2005, 18:24 ] |
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| Author: | TrekBoyChris [ 01 Sep 2005, 18:59 ] |
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| Author: | Martocticvs [ 01 Sep 2005, 19:42 ] |
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| Author: | Matress_of_evil [ 01 Sep 2005, 19:48 ] |
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That's another reason why i'd rather wait until the secret of everlasting life has been perfected. It isn't pretty when things start failing and you start to lose control of what little you have left... First it's the ears, then it's the eyes...not even your mouth is left unscathed by the ravages of time... |
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| Author: | Winterhawk [ 13 Sep 2005, 00:22 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: would you like to live forever? |
If only the good die young. I'm frakking emortal.. lol (that was a joke) Actually my people ( family ) line, live to the ripe age of 101, 103, 102.. all in the hundreds... except for my dad.. I can easly see me being 130. actually I see my finally passing and 132 years old.. I'm gonna be the " Old man of the rock" The Guru all the people will see for true wisdom.. ( Poor fools) lol... and I'll tell em, Live as they did in trek..... be in peace.. lol i remembered something a bit humorus... do not take this serious please.. " I love 18 year olds.. (girls) I keep getting older and they stay the same age! " lol.... stop booing... I did not make the joke up.. I'm just the messenger.... and if you don't like it.. come here so I can pop out my dentures at ya and chase you with my walker.... lol |
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| Author: | Rigel [ 13 Sep 2005, 00:58 ] |
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| Author: | downsizeit [ 13 Sep 2005, 19:14 ] |
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AMEN! No seriously AMEN! |
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