I personally can't believe that so much of the game isn't working, is missing, or has been changed for bad, rather than good.

I was really looking forward to getting Civ4, but if it has all these bugs and things, i'll wait a while for some updates and expansions...I just hope it doesn't turn out like the Sims when it comes to expansion packs...

General_Nemitor, I still play on Civ 2, although I have the Test of Time version, not Civ2. I'm sure there are others out there that still play the older versions though.

TrekBoy, the main changes are apparently "3D" graphics, the inclusion of a 'proper' religious system, and other general 'improvements' on the series.

I've been following the games development on gamespot - they have a lot of gameplay movies and stuff that people who haven't got the game might like to watch. They also have reviews and stuff, if you prefer to read/have a slow connection.



*Edit - if you haven't seen it, I recommend watching the civilization addicts anonymous video - it hilarious!*

What the hell has that got to do with warez?

Might get a cheap copy of Civ3 first then

Since when has a demo been illegal if the devs make it, Billy?

If you're worried about people mentioning the forbidden, there was someone on this thread that mentioned the unspeakable, but it wasn't TrekBoy.

The one who mentioned the unspeakable will remain nameless, so read the posts again, if you're that worried. I don't wanna get people in trouble, particularly if it is a first-time offense.

Bring me into it why don't you Matress

Jeez boys, if someone want to mention the "unmentionable", let them. Firstly they are not doing anyone harm (he didnt tell everyone else to do the same did he?), second he might of just borrowed from a friend, and third, you guys arent moderators, so who cares.

Back to Civ, well I must say I'm dissapointed to hear all the negatives about it. I think I will wait for a colectors edition (where they have fixed some problems), or perhaps a big patch before I buy the game.

One last thing to add. I find it pretty funny when I read about a few people who loved Civ2, and hated 3. Personally I like Civ2 a little more than 3 (mostly for nostalga), but aside from the graphics, they werent that differnt