last one before i go:)
see you all in a week:)
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| Author: | zahadoom [ 17 Mar 2006, 22:51 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dominion ships and stations |
last one before i go:) see you all in a week:)
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| Author: | Matress_of_evil [ 17 Mar 2006, 23:19 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dominion ships and stations |
Heh...I had to play the images side-by-side to see the difference...I was looking to see which of the uncoloured bit had been coloured in... 
You added windows and made the ship a <bit> longer.. Nice. 
Enjoy yourself in Cuba (I assume that's what "Cua" means  ) and we'll see you in a week. 
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| Author: | TrekBoyChris [ 18 Mar 2006, 10:28 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dominion ships and stations |
Cuba! You lucky b***ard 
The model designs are really comming on though. With each one you do they get better and better |
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| Author: | zahadoom [ 31 Mar 2006, 06:13 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dominion ships and stations |
The top texture is done, now onto the bottom..... |
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| Author: | Nemitor_Atimen [ 31 Mar 2006, 06:28 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dominion ships and stations |
kill castro for me when your there please. damn commies. |
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| Author: | zahadoom [ 31 Mar 2006, 14:25 ] |
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someone already made that request, wont happen, i dont have a phaser and a transport or personal sheilds, so nope |
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| Author: | zahadoom [ 01 Apr 2006, 09:21 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dominion ships and stations |
All done everyone:) I think it looks nice and only 969 poly's 
Jig let me know when i can send it to you |
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| Author: | skeeter [ 01 Apr 2006, 19:19 ] |
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Very nice 
Can i see a wireframe frame view please to check the geometry and how u built it, i know its weird ask but many modelers like looking at wireframes. It helps us to understand which way peopl go with thier models. |
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| Author: | zahadoom [ 02 Apr 2006, 00:58 ] |
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Here you are skeeter, always like to help:) could i get you to post a wire for your klingon station here too? 
now on to my station:) As i said earlier im going to completely redo it ( give it a more bug like feal) |
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| Author: | skeeter [ 02 Apr 2006, 12:09 ] |
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Looks good, thanks for the pics.
I'll try to get some wires done tonight or tomorrow of the station. |
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| Author: | zahadoom [ 07 Apr 2006, 04:34 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dominion ships and stations |
Ok here it is ppl, a complete rework of the dominion station...Still incomplete and only 1250 polys:) Hopefully this is more buggy... comments pls:) |
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| Author: | Matress_of_evil [ 07 Apr 2006, 12:55 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dominion ships and stations |
Quote: Hopefully this is more buggy... It took me a while to realise what you meant by "Buggy"...
It certainly looks more evil than the old one. I'll post an update in my shiplist thread, and i'll post a new picture when this one is more complete. I've also posted your Serpent class ship in the shiplist thread if you hadn't noticed, Zahadoom.
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| Author: | zahadoom [ 07 Apr 2006, 13:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dominion ships and stations |
I havent taken a look at that thread yet but i am assuming that my ship will be the first available in the game (tech 0) That was what it was designed to look like (to look more primative) |
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| Author: | zahadoom [ 08 Apr 2006, 06:11 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dominion ships and stations |
ok i changed it again, i think its better... 
1600 poly's |
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| Author: | Matress_of_evil [ 08 Apr 2006, 17:43 ] |
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Cool.
I was wondering how ships would be able to dock with it...and now they can.
... To save you the bother, here's the Serpent class from the shiplist: Quote: PROBE SHIP I -Serpent Class TECH 0 Created by Zahadoom: Zahadoom's Serpent Class Zahadoom's Serpent Class from below So yeah, it's the first ship the Dominion starts off with. |
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| Author: | zahadoom [ 08 Apr 2006, 17:53 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dominion ships and stations |
this station is absolutely massive.......In the center there will be a set of space doors wide enough to accomodate their largest ship the doors will be 1000 m wide... to give you an idea....Their spacedock is even bigger |
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| Author: | Morden [ 08 Apr 2006, 19:52 ] |
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zahadoom wrote: this station is absolutely massive.......In the center there will be a set of space doors wide enough to accomodate their largest ship the doors will be 10000 m wide... to give you an idea....Their spacedock is even bigger 10km? thats enormous. you could fit like 13 Sovereigns end to end along it |
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| Author: | zahadoom [ 08 Apr 2006, 20:16 ] |
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thats the idea, dom ships are very big, and they need room for the hords of jem hadar sorry i didint see that i meant 1000 m but its still huge. and you have to remeber that ships are getting bigger all the time |
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| Author: | Matress_of_evil [ 08 Apr 2006, 22:37 ] |
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Isn't DS9 1400m? 
So 1km sounds rather small to be honest...remember when Dominion ships were docked with the station? They were almost as big as it! I've done some checking, and Ex-Astris-Scientia has come up with the Dominion Battleship as being 1.5km - so their biggest ship would be bigger than DS9 - the Dominion station would then have to be considerably bigger than this to even be able to accommodate two of their ships, let alone an entire fleet! Ex-Astris-Scientia |
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| Author: | Praetor_Oly19 [ 08 Apr 2006, 23:39 ] |
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Yeah, DS9 is 1,451.82 m in diameter according to DS9 TM and that seems realistic. Jem'Hadar battlecruiser was frequently seen docked with the DS9. According to shots of JH battleship that vessel has to be at least 1500 m long if you take Defiant's lenght of 120m. But still the main strenght of Dominion fleet was attack ship in huge numbers.
As for the stations for the Dominion, have you thought of Car-Dom Repair facility?( seen in 'tackin into the wind' and 'WYLB') I don't know it's exact size, but I would estimate that it's at least 1127 m in diameter if you compare it with JH attack ship's lenght of 68.32 m from DS9TM. But many spec. effects say that attack ship is around 100m so that gives this station a diameter of over 1600m. |
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| Author: | zahadoom [ 09 Apr 2006, 00:01 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dominion ships and stations |
when i said 1000m i was refering to the opening of the hatch where the ships enter |
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| Author: | zahadoom [ 09 Apr 2006, 00:06 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dominion ships and stations |
ok i just did a measurement ck and the official diameter of the station that i drew is about 47km with the hatch being about 3000 m wide |
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| Author: | Matress_of_evil [ 09 Apr 2006, 00:58 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dominion ships and stations |
Wow...imagine that in the game...I hope Jig's engine can cope with that kind of size! 8O |
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| Author: | zahadoom [ 12 Apr 2006, 04:39 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dominion ships and stations |
a little more detail added im at 1856 poly's 
for stations im not supposed to cross 2000, i figure ill be at about 1930 ish when I'm all done |
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| Author: | Matress_of_evil [ 12 Apr 2006, 09:39 ] |
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Jig replied to my PM. Apparently his engine will be able to cope with a 47km station, so go for it! 
Did you make the station bigger during the last update, Zahadoom? The pylons look like they are longer than in the first pic. You did it to fit more ships in I suppose? 
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| Author: | zahadoom [ 12 Apr 2006, 11:02 ] |
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no its not bigger i just filled in the pylons to make it more pleasing to the eye, and i dont think size was ever in the equation matress just the # of polygons (could be wrong though) but i remember jig saying somewhere that it didint matter how big or small an object was, he could scale it later. Since your in comunication with jig, mention to him that my scout ship is complete and ready to leave drydock:) |
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| Author: | zahadoom [ 22 Apr 2006, 04:43 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dominion ships and stations |
ok, ive been toying with this model for the last week and i think im finally happy with it... the question is if its good for everyone. I just slaped the texture on quickly so that the surface will be visible to everyone. Thats why it looks a little stretched out... ill fix that later.....comments pls all. And pls give me some suggestions as to what is wrong with it if there is, or any changes you would like to see. one thing that bugs me and id like to hear something on this from some of the other modelers......is that some of the ships from the same races have diff base textures. For example ive done some dow ships and so has jig.... and they all look completly diff...just thought id raise that question |
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| Author: | skeeter [ 22 Apr 2006, 10:40 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dominion ships and stations |
To avoid stretching of textures like that what you need to do is either uv map them, or, to make them like in the pic below with the focus being using cubic projection... 
1. choose texture part 2. click T on color 3. change projection to cubic which will map most things nicely, if you cant do uv maps yet. 4. adjust ho big or small you want the texture to look on partt/object. Hope it helps. edit - oops didnt read ur post fully, u didnt care if it was applied right hehe, ah well nvm. About the model. Add on hundreads of lights using textures like i did with klingon base. Do one nice one and just duplicate (copy and paste) the hell out of it all over the station but make it nice and level with each other window. Get some grid mesh texture somewhere too. For power source use pink energy glow like u see on their ships. Somewhere about.. Very bottom of the mid section that little section if you know where i mean. So do that pink with luminacy and glow added. Then do o thin mesh around the pink so looks cool. Texture some docking areas on the arms and do a some paneling bevels as textures over the hull to give it a good solid built feeling. Then it will look uber cool.
About variance between dom ships. Well that cant be helped due to diff ppl using there own ways. To be honest i think as a fan game not many ppl will care as long as theres variety to ships. Ok so one will look diff to another texture wise but meh i wont care id just love blowing them up hehe. Besides its free, you get what you pay for. :p |
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| Author: | Matress_of_evil [ 23 Apr 2006, 16:06 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dominion ships and stations |
I think it looks great, Zahadoom! Just one question though, where are the doors to let ships in/out of the station? If you forgot to include them, prehaps you could put them inside the three "prongs" that stick out of the station? I've added in the picture that looks at the station from below into my shiplist thread. I think that picture looks the most cinematic and really shows off the station. I hope you don't mind, Zahadoom, but I decided i'd have a look at what the station could look like with Skeeters changes. As you can see, my paint skills leave a lot to be desired, but if you could make the changes Skeeter suggested, then i'm certain the station will be one of the best structures in the game.
The places where i've put the windows are just examples, and there should really be windows in many more parts of the station, but you get idea.
The "holes" are where I left out some windows to make it look more realisitic. |
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| Author: | zahadoom [ 23 Apr 2006, 16:21 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dominion ships and stations |
Yes i was actually thinking that way before skeeter suggested it, and they look nice but i think ill make fewer of them, to anser your question about where the ships will enter here it is.... 
as ive said before those doors are huge maybe al much as 6000 m......as you can see the ship enters and then passes through that huge strut and will dock in the center of the station. Although im going to have to to some more lightwave research before i know enough about uv mapping to do this kind of texture. |
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