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what language is this game in, i'm basic in programming upto university year 1 level and fluent in c++ and visual c++ mainly and only done databases and menu systems before and a hell of alot of programmin design documentation


19 Oct 2004, 23:15
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c++, speak to gavin about helping with the programming, pm him your msn (if you have it) or just what you would like to help out with if not, i suggest useing im as then the two of you can discuss everything in detail.

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i have mailed a few people who voulantered have they not replied yet?

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I've looked on the internet, and there are some people with abandoned botf2 projects, if we could only contact them. Then i'm sure a lot of them would help with this one, and could help you out, with some programming. We just have to advertise this project to the startrek fans out there. :wink:

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http://www.trekbbs.com ?
Large following there..or even sites liek http://www.bcfiles.com


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if i could program id be the first to help, the onlything i can probably manage is volontering to find sound effects and music and if you gues can get me 3d studio max maybe i can try my hands at ship construction, cad does mean ships but it wont do textures and i have no ideas if it would expost to your softwear????

email me @ r_rainville if i can do anything at all

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pIII 800 Mhz
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and the graphix cad is something custom made, not sure what it is, but i can play civ 3 and it looks really good so yeah

ill be getting a new computer in a couple months


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Iwulff, i've been searching for these abandoned BOTF II projects for ages, where can i find them?

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this thread is so old i have no idea why it is back, zahadoom to get you 3d max it would cost in the region of $4500 or thereabouts. so i don`t reckon we will get it for you. there is some free 3d modeling software like blender try that. all other botf 2 projects bar the one at afc are long since dead.

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Jeez, $4500! That must be professional sortware then?

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Jeez, $4500! That must be professional sortware then?

well dur

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You might be able to get a..........(i'll stop right here) :lol:

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try cad at 15000 a licence:), is there anything else i can do for you guys besides wait?


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by the way what is the file type that you end up with once your done with the whole process?


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Do you mean the compiled model or the game executable?

I dunno wich formats the models actually have (though I remember this has been mentioned to me) have, but the game will certainly be a main Botf.exe with some other files.

(These "other files" will be the ones we will sit hours in front of an opened editor with to mod in quantums for a Constitution ^^)


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four and half gees for 3d max - stop your whinging.

my drafting software costs US$1100 PER MONTH!

now that, is just seven different shades of wrong right there...


30 Sep 2005, 16:23
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jesus scatter wtf are you useing? nasa?

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lol, or Scatter has a very well connected family :lol:

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gturfrey wrote:
Right anyone with programming experience email me at gavinturfrey@msn.com or add me to msn with this email.


This post is quite old now. I'd like to contact developers of BOTF2. Should I send an e-mail to gturfrey, or to someone else?


27 Nov 2005, 06:56
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gturfrey wrote:
Right anyone with programming experience email me at gavinturfrey@msn.com or add me to msn with this email.


This post is quite old now. I'd like to contact developers of BOTF2. Should I send an e-mail to gturfrey, or to someone else?


I found out about this project from a guy who was interested in joining it. He claims to have sent email to that address in late september and got no response so I wouldn't bother.


27 Nov 2005, 08:19
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ok send all your stuff and things to the following e-mail adress: iwulff_botf2@yahoo.com. i will make sure that gav recieves this. :wink:

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I wouldn't bother... I sent an inquiry to Gavin back in August as well. No response. I imagine at this point he doesn't want to take on additional developers because so much of the code base is completed that it'd take him more time to answer a new developer's questions about how something works than it'd take him to finish the job himself.


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Gavin is obviously busy with work, the game, and life in general.

I imagine that pretty much everyone on the site has PM'd or emailed Gavin for one reason or another.

The simple fact of the matter is that he's probably fed up with it, like Jig was.

OmniQ sent a PM to Gavin september asking whether he was going to use the random events that we created or not, but still no reply.

It would be nice to know, but we understand that he is busy.

Iwulff has kindly created a BOTF2 email addy, so do as he said and direct stuff through there. It should get answered then.

That said, could you ask Gavin about the random events for us, Iwulff?

We spent quite a lot of time on them afterall, and we don't even know what the actual random events will be in the game. :(

Thanks. :wink:

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mstrobel wrote:
I wouldn't bother... I sent an inquiry to Gavin back in August as well. No response. I imagine at this point he doesn't want to take on additional developers because so much of the code base is completed that it'd take him more time to answer a new developer's questions about how something works than it'd take him to finish the job himself.

True, but a simple thanx but no thanx message wouldn't hurt.

Also if Gavin dosen't have time to respond then relaying mail thru Iwulff won't change that.


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yes it would, because gavin has more time for me then for you. This may sound bad, but it isn't. I've been here from the beginning and we don't only talk about botf2. Ok here is what i do, i will ask gav, about this and tell you guys the answer.

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iwulff wrote:
Ok here is what i do, i will ask gav, about this and tell you guys the answer.

Thanx for that I would be interested in the answer.

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yes it would, because gavin has more time for me then for you. This may sound bad, but it isn't. I've been here from the beginning and we don't only talk about botf2.

Yes, that sounds very bad. I feel there are many good developers out there who could have contributed a lot ot this project if gavin had had the time to answer them. Maybe the project would have been finnished now with more people working on it.


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so you can help gav? I sure hope so, i haven't got an answer yet, but i'm curious of your expertised and such.

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No, not me personally I was refering to my freind.


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