Hey guys,
just back froma week in Turkey with the gf, and it was brillant, but i thought that I'd let you know that if anyone ever says Turkey is cheap they are wrong!
The reason we wenti is were broke students, but they have literally doubled all the prices at all the resorts from last year!

Just a word of warning(as it pissed me off alot!) Although i did get a 20oz steak....

20oz steak? I'm there!

Turkey was a cheap country about 5 years ago. Since then it has been discovered by the tourists and the prices went sky rocket. Though it still is a great country, it isn't much of a viable option for the broken student .

Cheap countries in europe are for instance Hungary, Czechia (spelling..?) and Croatia. If you are low on cash, those are realy places worth visiting.

was thinking about them for our january holiday!

Great, we're thinking of going as our next family holiday next summer. I'll try to persuade my parents

I hope you didn't mean Chechnya! Might be cheap but wouldn't go there

He meant the Czech Republic - Prague is a beautiful city (or so the pictures show)

That's the one TrekBoy.

Prague is truely awesome, i spent 2 days there and my m8s and i had an waesome time! the woman are great the beer is cheap! the archeture in the city is awesome!

really good, easyjet and flly2 fly out there from the uk!

Yeah, Prague is a great city, I was there a few months ago. Very cheap is Poland and the new membercountries of the EU. I never thoght the Turkey to be a cheap country. Greece is cheap, I think and Italy isn't that expensive, too. But if you are from UK, any European country is cheap...[/list]

And who ever said cheap was bad

I do have to admit, that I am quite impressed on you decent knowledge regarding this point TrekBoyChris. You show quite some skills for your age.
In times I have had a hard time finding people here in Europe, that are capeable to spell some of the countries correctly, but I never imagined or hoped to see such a qualified answer from a US-boy (this is meant specifically on the topic of European country names). Since during my personal voyages throughout the US, I was often confronted with people stating: "Ahh cool, thats where the kangaroos live!", whenever I told someone that I am living in Austria.

Nowadays it might be even worse, since people probably would always identify my with someone like "Schwarzenegger", since this idiot somehow managed to become governor of California.

Thank you Menhat

Salve,

Czech Republic - Ah, home of the beer and great food - when in Prague make sure to drop by the "U zlateho tygra" (golden tiger), a genuin Czech Pub. PalaÄ￾inky, biftek, knedlíky and svíÄ￾ková - Grat food - try them yourself!
Yet I always marvel the price differencials between Prague and the rest of the country.

@Mentat
Most US Americans might not know too terrible much about European geography (interrestinglly those that do, more than make up for the rest - the US of A is a country of extremes) but in general they are friendly to tourist unlike Some Austrians, especially if they are confronted with tourists that happend to be "Pifkes" like me.

I was wondering what kind of Mentat you were aspiring to, the likes of :
Thufir Hawat
Piter de Vries
Duncan Idaho
Gilbertus Albans
Fenring

Personally I love Fenring, he has a true Cardassian personality!

Drushba

While we're on the topic
Maybe a map is in order... Look what I found on the Net

Can't see anything wrong with that map myself...

I think something i've been working on might go well here - you've seen <Most> of it already, CVN, but I think you'll like the additions.

If you don't know, I got the idea from a comedy sketch program over here called Dead Ringers. They were making fun about the new weather maps on TV over here. Ireland was my idea though.



Anyone got any ideas for what I could do to the rest of Britain?

Be careful, that's My governor your talking about. And yes, I know about the Czech republic, my last name is Czech. I can't blame you guys for believing what you do, I have seen the idiocy myself. Geography class where some don't even know what the UK is, not to mention where it is. There are idiots everywhere, but also geniuses everywhere as well. The idiots are harmless though, it's the smart people that want your money.

It's apsoblutely impossible for a country to be full of idiots, so ceurtainly they are a minority. The oppinon that Americans are stupid probably comes from the fact that you are more likey to remember someone really stupid than someone that was of average intelligence or smart.
And as you said, when someone thinks the UK is a county of some state people tend to rmember that. ANd that's how prejudice is born

I'm not sure I follow you...I didn't say America was full of idiots, if that's what you are saying. I live in America, so if that were true than I would have to be an idiot myself. Maybe they are a minority, I haven't counted. I happen to live in the bay area, so maybe that helps explain my situation. They say California is the land of fruits and nuts.
Also, it occurs to me that people living in America don't see much besides America. I have only been able to visit Canada twice, but I would absolutly love to go to Europe. I can't. It costs way too much. People living in Europe most likely go to all of the countries and talk to people from everywhere all of the time. I rarely talk to anyone from Europe about Europe, mostly because I'm not aware that that is where they are from. Can you name all the states in the US? I hope I'm making sense.

Salve,

I absolutely agree with Smith, it is only natural to know primarily about issues one is confronted with. The US of A is a microcosm of its own - in principle the same is true about Europe, just ask someone in France (just an example) about the inner workings of Polish or Ukrainian society and there won't be much of a substantiated answer. With such problems about inner European issues now imagine if someone had to place Bhutan or Cambodia on a map ...

@Smith, I just consulted My map of Europe and figured out that I live closer to 7 other European capitals than to my own ...


Talking about geography, I alway get a kick out of the wonderful roadsigns in the US, for example this is what i saw somewhere in Arkansas.
England, straight ahead - Stuttgart, take a left turn and Czech, take a right turn.

So far my favourite European roadsign was the signpost welcoming somebody to a city:

"MOSSAT
please drive carefully"

You bet I drive carefully!!!!!!!!

Drushba

Where's Kora Two?

Hola,

It is the system that this Marritza guy from "DS9 Duet", came from.
Where exactly - no idea, oh it is the center of the universe of course



Drushba

You'll have to forgive me for misunderstanding your prevoius post. I had no intention to imply that Americans are idiots. Again, I apologise, I meant no disrespect


The question "Can you name all the states in the US?"...
It seemed to be a comparison as in; An American can't name all the EU countries, while a European can't name all the US states.
Well, I'd sooner compare it to, "Can you name all the states in Germany?"


I mean, you compare knowing that the capital of the Czech Rep. is Prague, to knowing that the capital of Delaware is Dover
That's just my oppinion since I find Prague to be an important center of world culture. Someone else doesn't have to care about Prague's history and culture since it's thousands of kilometers away from him, and in reality had no real impact on his nation.
So, turns out everything I wrote was just a rant by an egocentric European Oh, well...

Well i can probably name 15 US states, but none of the German ones except Berlin - is that a state aswell as the Capital?

i'll rephrase your entry CVN_65. Americans are not idiots but one normally is . Guess the name - (Edited by myself for a Political comment)

I don't really want to talk about politics, but now I have to. I personally think your news organizations are against Bush, always saying that everything is his fault, etc. They most likely even blamed hurricane katrina on him. No, it wasn't his fault, if he had sent in relief over the mayor and the governors head, they would complain about him trying to take over everything. Are you saying Kerry would have been better? I personally have mixed opinions about Bush, but I get annoyed when everyone, even those outside my country, always go on about how bad they think he is and how we should get rid of him. Protester call him a murderer. He is my president, so I will respect him. I would have even respected Kerry if he was in, but I would be very unhappy about that. Kerry would have been a disaster. I know you can't really tell my mood from text, but I'm not really offended by anyone here. Okay, please no more politics. Politics = arguments and lots of spam. So please refrain from responding to my post, no matter how great the urge. If this does incite riots, feel free to delete this post and any following it.

Personally i don't read the paper's that make that kind of comment. The Hurricane wasn't his fault but he acted to slowly. Also he's made plenty of high profile errors in power. I'm not against Bush, i just don't like the way he acts and what he stands for

Thanks for your calm reply, whenever this topic comes up people always argue violently. As I said before, I live in the anti-bush capital of the world, the bay area, so I hear vicious attacks directed at my president all of the time.

Closer to the actual topic, I would love to visit Europe. It's hard to say where I would like to go first. I think Rome would be high on my list, I'm a big fan of the former Roman Empire. London is second, then probably Berlin or Paris, or both!!! I've always been on the far side of the planet from all these places. Must be hard to imagine for some of you.

Hmm, ahmm, I kinda agree with your view on the US and the Austrians, though not completely, eh?

And hmm, I guess this should answer all your questions, eh?

And hmm, Count Fenring is most definitely Romulan alike, because he is not a fool, eh?

@All:
Regarding naming all US states, I am pretty sure I could name them all, including their capitols, but then this was kind of a game we constantly played at school and even later at University. If I would have to name all UK counties, I'd probably fail, same would account for India's provinces and many other states. Germany wouldn't fail me though, its not that hard .

@Smith:
I am sure you would be welcome in Europe, no matter where, though also over here you will hear increasingly criticism on your government, but thats natural. But then you might get a lot of new input regarding politics this way. I won't start any politcal discussion about the USA politics, it would just start another flamewar I fear. The only thing that I would like to add is, that if people (no matter from where) criticise your government, they do not critisise you personally. I also highly criticise the government of my own country, and I do personally think, that this is important and even my democratic duty as civilian. I have also traveled a lot throuhout the norh American Continent from the early nineties to 2002, and I really found that many things have changed during that period. It's not that european newspapers and newsbroadcasts have a single minded view on the things that happened and still happen, they just formulate the quite understandable fears and chills that the european citicens have at this very time. And then, I have not yet seen in this world a more diverse news broadcasting then in Europe.

Well, I haven't seen much of Europe, since I'm still pretty young. From what I have seen, I'd say Rome is the one to see before all. And Venice. I really can't imagine a person that would visit those two cities and not find anything (everything) about them fascinating

So, Smith, agreeing with you. Definitely Italy

Btw, re politics, imho, there are times when a PM or a president should be viewed as representing the entire country, but there are also times when he should be viewed as an individual. Like Mentat said, an attack on a nations representative is not, necessarily, on his nation or the people who elected him