i was broseing the internet and found this site

it was set up by Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual star trek fans who wanty a gay characte on the new show or in a moive.

Im was wondering if people had any viewson this?

link to website below i look farward to hearing your thoughts
http://www.webpan.com/dsinclair/trek.html

Personally, I don't 100% agree with the entire article. I agree for it in the most part, but not completely.

There have been episodes where sexuality has been "dealt with", and where other sexualities have been explored. Whilst there hasn't been a specifically identified gay character, why do we assume they are all straight?

As hard to believe as it may be, not every character in every single show had a relationship, and they didn't appear in every show waving cards round saying "kiss me, i'm straight/gay/whatever". So how do we KNOW that every character is straight?

It's just as what was written: Trek (And sci-fi in general) tends to be a hi-tech transplant of people's current views. It deals with the social problems of the time, not the social problems of the future.

There is the point though (And this wasn't mentioned in the article) that since they are constantly meeting alien cultures, that the social problems of the future would be the same as today, because these new alien cultures would have their own beliefs.

Every time a new race appears, the entire philosophical debate on social tensions would flare up again. As much as society would be horrified by it, there will always be people who are outcasts at a particular time. Gays are just the ones that are being focussed on at the moment. For all we know, the people who will be discriminated against in the future are those that believe in a religion, white people, or even men.

Just because something is accepted today, doesn't mean it will be in the future. The opposite is obviously also true.

The fact that the article is about gay people means nothing in my mind. If the article had been written in the sixties, it would probably have been about black women or Russians.

If it was written in 10 years time, it would probably be written about something like smoking. Social attitudes change over time, and Trek has always been about pushing those boundaries.

As the article has said, gays on TV is a relatively recent thing. Just because it hasn't been shown yet, doesn't mean it never will be - if there's another series, that is... 8O

Actually, while he wasn't identified in First Contact as being gay, Sean Hawk is identified as a homosexual in the book series' (ex: Section 31: Rogue)

Personally, I agree with jig on this one. And, being a christian (yet not a catholic), I really can't agree with their way of life.

As far as go on this if there's a need for a gblt character then i'd have nothing against one. Just as i have no objecton to a straight actor playing a gblt character

Gays were in Star Trek but the Federation ran out of them trying to fix trasporter malfunctions. now we have to use those led containers.

I don't realy agree with MoE's statements and xir_'s statements. At first, Matress makes it believe that today homosexuality IS a big deal or a "problem". There is nothing problematic about them in my opinion. The only problem might be with some people who, for some reason, dislike them.

The statement from xir_ is totally wrong in my opinion because sexuality itself IS being explored in Star Trek on numerous occasions (name me one series in which it isn't, btw). I fail to see why homosexuality would be more harmfull to children then heterosexuality.

I am slightly homophobic, when i go out to a club or a pub i dont want to bump into gay guys. i have had friends that are gay and i find that the very femine men seem to get on the way they do to rub it in other peoples faces,, and it makes me really uncomforatble.

If i started to piss you off with my attudie we wouldnt be friends. If an entire section of the comunity pissed you off with their attidudeand you didnt want to be around them they feel victimised.

I dont care what they do as long as its not in front of me or my future kids. its not natural, and no good comes out of it.

I dont think children need to see homosexuality in any form. Television is a serious plight on the human race and we dont need any more **** on there that can screw around with kids heads any more. Ok they are alot worse things on tv but this is just one more that doesnt need to be there.... 1 off episode at the most, but even that is too much. <bad mood and rant ends>

Centurion, you seem to misunderstand me.

I do not think that homosexuality is a "problem", far from it. Obviously there are a few people that have a big problem with it, but people in general now tollerate and even accept it. I am one of these people. I do not see it as a problem. It is a fact of life that there are gay people, and if you have a problem with it, then you will have to deal with it. (And i'm not trying to offend you, Undated, everyone has their own equally valid point of view, these are just mine)

I agree that children shouldn't be exposed to it by the mass media, but people need to learn at some point - be that from their parents, friends, school, or even through their own personal interests.

Ignorance breeds intollerance, and look what happened in WW2 thanks to ignorance and intollerance.

I believe the fact that the gay community is now "out" is a good thing, and if people have a problem with it, they will simply have to learn to deal with it.

Having a problem is comparable to being racist, sexist, ageist, whatever. It is still a form of discrimination. How would you like it if you were discriminated against?

I thought not.

but if you dont like the personality of someone because of there attitude about being gay (like being really femine in front of you eg JAck from will and grace) does that make u racist?

People with certain personality types will clash with other types, but that not being racist, if I dislike the type of man who gets on like that its not racist it just pisses me off..... People are so easy to think it discrimination, i wouldnt stand on the corners preaching against it, i think that if they want to do it they can but i dont like it near me.

No, it doesn't mean you're racist, it just means you're human.

Everyone has their own opinions, it's when they are physically (Or sometimes verbally) expressed that the problems start.

Ok, so you don't like 'flamboyant' people. You're not a 100% completely opposed anti-gay are you?

Wait a minute...what am I? Gay civil rights campaigner for the site?