i don`t know if anyone knew this but there is another project out there sounds also very promising
look at the screenshots section it gives you a first impression
http://www.birth-of-the-empires.de

Cool.

But it'll be useless to me - I don't understand German...

I understood the title though...Birth of the Empires!

How many is it now?

i have to admit i like the look of it but i just droped german last year so i can pick up like 5 words ina paragraph so its usless to me but if they did an eglish verson that be cool

Looks pretty good, but it's quite a bit like the original or so it seems from the screenies. Haven't had much actions on the forums recently. We shouldn't be surprised that there's another on the web but it doesn't seem to have as big a following as this one. You can roughly translate the page into German using http://babelfish.altavista.com or try google

anyone notice the strong resemblence in colour schemes for the fed ui, to my colours?

VERY STRONG and i have never seen that project before...










there are spies among us...

Spies? Where? I don't know of any spies...



You're right though, Silvercliff. The colouring is identical to yours, although the GUI is completely different. They have buttons, we have a right-click menu.

We have the Empire icon at the top, they have it at the bottom...

Their Planets certainly haven't been taken from this site though. There have only been a few Planet models posted on the site, and they aren't anything like the ones that site has.

Out Planets will be awesome once ZDarby has finished making them.

I translated the page as you suggested, Trekboy. The site is actually a pretty new one - the site admin apparently registered in January, and that is when the first posts are dated as well.

I had fun writing a message saying hello to them, and got Altavista to translate it. I didn't bother posting it though, coz i'm not sure how trustworthy the translation is.

If there are any German speakers reading this, could you say hi to them and point them in our direction?

i havent have time to read it all through but it seems quite nice... i hope that's not a fake

Looks nice, I can understand some of the german, and it looks similar to the original.

The main drawback of this project is the main programmer doesn't want to implement a 3D-Battle system!

boooooooooo, that sucks.

well not entirely, civ3 and 4 are ok without a battle system like botf1.

but still i want a 3d battle system.

it looks really nice, but without the 3d battle system its just crap. Thats one of the features that made botf for me

Wouldn't it be an idea to have the devs of that project to talk and discuss some things with jig and others from ours. Perhaps some things can be shared, or skills pooled in order to complete the project faster. Would benefit both our goals..

^^^Only if they speak English or Jig can speak German

Your right, they're lots of BOTF projects if the devs all worked together then we might have a complete project.

The main thing I liked in botf was the 2d stategy. I don't think the 3d battle system was up to much infact it had little baring on the outcum of a battle it may as well have been pre rendered movies played after each turn.

I'm guessing people don't read into my post very much - I kinda already suggested that!

Could you do it, FTranschel? You're the one who wants a German mod for our version afterall...they may be able to help you do that...

hes registered already on the site as well

Your spies do work really well, don't they

I have not yet found time to speak the site admin but I'm after that.

another botf project.... a shame that its in german

also a shame that they wont be using a 3d engine. For me it is 1 of the most important things in botf

@ftranshell please tell them to credit silvercliff as it is painfully obvious they are useing his lcars for there fed designs.

Actually, they don't seem to be using very complicated German (yet). Translating it wouldn't be hard as just by looking I can tell you most of it, and I haven't studied German for a couple of years. If it comes out, I'll download it and see if it's any good, although I wish they would have a 3D battle system and get rid of the Ferengi in favor of the Borg, Dominion, or pretty much ANY other race you could name (I hate Ferengi).

If they were going to use out ideas it would have atleast been polite to PM Silvercliff or one of the admin - even if they are German. They obviously love your designs mate . Still not very polite though stealing designs

Maybe we're getting ahead of ourselves here?

We don't really know that they are stealing Silvercliff's stuff.

Ok, they're using a SIMILAR colour scheme, but they aren't the same screens as the ones that Silvercliff made.

Now there is the possibility that they're editing the screens for their own purposes, but if they were doing that, why aren't they just making their own ones from scratch?

It would probably be easier in the long run.

I think the similarity is just pure coincidence. We shouldn't start accusing them of anything until we have any evidence of it. We really should get in contact with them and ee if they actually know about our game first...

that is true, while they HAVE stolen my colour scheme, that is it, the layouts and stuff are unique.

i dont really mind, adn it could be coincidence, but they havent got a colour that i havent used...

ok, well how about we hold back anymore conversation on this till we get the all the facts sorted out. Hopely ftranschel will ask about it and let us know. also when was teh first post of ur colour silvercliff? when was theres?

Wow. I never realized how many people from Paramount there are on this site.

my first pic with those colours was December 19, 2005, 4:38 pm

I think the Paramount thing was a joke--in other words, we can't really say they're stealing from us since we're more or less stealing the LCARS interface idea from Paramount. I would agree--any talk of theft here is ultimately pointless. In the end, we're all thieves .

^^^There's honor amongst thieves