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colione
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Found it on CNN's home page!
http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Movies/ ... index.html
It's about time they bring in fresh blood to head up the movie portion of this franchise!
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| 21 Apr 2006, 18:05 |
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skeeter
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Joined: 22 Apr 2005, 01:00 Posts: 1527 Location: UK
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They go on to say they want to do the film about kirk and spocks first meeting and there first mission. It will result in disaster i think as no one can do a young version of them.
What they should do is a another khan type film or perhaps try a exploration type film where they find something cool.
Personally i want to see a ds9 film. Set after the dominion war and the film is about the defiant going to the gamma quadrent in order to find some important mythical race that recent evidence from alpha quadrent sugests moved to the gamma quadrent.
To be brutily honest i want a tos film, i miss the georgeous enterprise models they used. Something perhaps sulu as captain of the new ship he got in undiscovered country. Think its ent b. (Excelsior was a really cool ship i thought and was very advanced for the time and would have loved to see that ship in a full episode or movie.
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| 21 Apr 2006, 18:45 |
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CaptRingold
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Joined: 26 Oct 2005, 01:00 Posts: 302
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Guys, check out SyFy Portal. ( http://www.syfyportal.com) They contracted a guy, Erik Jendresen, to write a script for XI, and he did an astounding awesome job -- a Romulan War trilogy! You won't hear much about Erik Jendressen elsewhere, he was pretty much exclusive with that site.
They pass up a Romulan War Trilogy, which would bring in people that love action films, like war films, and like Star Trek all alike, and which would also fill the only gaping holes in Star Trek canon that exist with something solid, for.. what? "The OC" in space?
Stab me with a sword and drag my fandom body through the streets like Achilles did Hector already.
It's not all doom and gloom though. As long as BOTF2 / Supremacy comes together, I could care less if the movies suck so long as I'm making my own every time I open the game on my desktop
2008 though is a ways off, too. Who knows. We'll see. It might even change between now and then. Just not an encouraging sign at all.. I even walk away with the feeling that Paramount brass really wants another failure so they can finally shout from the mountain top "See? We told you all so -- Star Trek is uncreative, unprofitabel, and has no future ; not to any fault of their own, of course! . . . </sarcasm>
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| 21 Apr 2006, 19:41 |
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Matress_of_evil
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For me, a Romulan War Trilogy would be something that no emoticon could ever hope to show...
I don't think a young Kirk would be the way to go, either. Shatner is the only guy who could be Kirk, and...well let's face it, he couldn't be shown as young even with all the makeup in the world now!
The only way that Trek is gonna survive is if they listen to the fans. The writers are trying to bring in new blood, but it just isn't gonna work. Make something that the fan base wants, and they make their millions. Instead they have delusions of making a film for people who will have no interest in it, and it will ultimately fail.
I personally thought Nemesis was a good film, but when I hear about the stuff that was cut from it and the changes they made, I suddenly feel an overwhelming urge to smack something. 
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| 21 Apr 2006, 20:00 |
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TrekBoyChris
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From what it seems like so far i can't see myself queing up for advanced screenings. I agree with MOE, the Rom Wars would be fantastic for a movie
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| 21 Apr 2006, 20:22 |
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UnDated
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Joined: 29 Jun 2005, 01:00 Posts: 259
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lots can change, but if they do this movie then st will be in the bin...
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| 21 Apr 2006, 20:26 |
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TrekBoyChris
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And lose more of the remaining devoted fans
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| 21 Apr 2006, 20:37 |
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Captain_Billy_Bacon
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Joined: 15 Sep 2005, 01:00 Posts: 1048 Location: West Yorkshire!
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if they devoted they stick with trek till they do what the fans want
its not a good idea if ya ask me to do a "kirk the early years moive" no1 will be able to play kirk and same with spock its kinda sad but i agree anything to do with the rom wars but instead of moveing backwards mabey to the futrue mabey a moive about the titan and its rom boreder duties i think they should make a moive about that then if it was sucsessful they could mabey go for a series about titan but if they keep going the way they are there gonna lose fans (not loyal ones) and not gain any interest from other people and then we never get what we want lol hehehe oh but yea moe rom wars sounds good lol

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| 21 Apr 2006, 22:22 |
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Nemitor_Atimen
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I think this will be a good movie.
I'm really looking forward to it.
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| 22 Apr 2006, 03:43 |
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kslee
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I agree that the typical fan probably isn't gonna like the story line. (Or maybe it's the fact that it prevents another story like the Rom. War from being told). But you can't blame the corportate execs from wanting to bring in new fans. Simply put, the fan base that's out there isn't big enough to make profits. And honestly, what percentage of the generally computer-savvy trek fans won't just download the movie (if it's less than perfect)? It's demographic of mostly older people now (20's to 40's - no kids anymore) with a large proportion being men. So it's no wonder they want to appeal to a broader audience.
But having said that, I don't know what this movie can potentially accomplish. On one hand, they're trying to squeeze some life out of kirk. But this disappoints the loyal fans because they have other things they would rather see in the trek storyline. At the same time, it doesn't really attract any new ones (at least from a story perspective). What made trek great (to my knowledge) in the past was that it was so futuristic and creative. Since the mid-90's they've never really offered any advancements (the occasional upgraded shields, maybe) in the shows and thus fail to captivate any type of audience. Add to the fact that space exploration in general doesn't have nearly the intrigue that it did in the 70's to early 90's and you begin to see why nobody has a reason other than for loyalty to watch anymore.
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ZDarby
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I grew up on Star Trek. I was drawing starships in pre-school and I'll be debating/speculating about warp drive, wormholes and Trek history untill I die... I'll watch this next movie even though I don't look forward to it: I'll show support for Trek even if it's crap because I want it to continue. But I can't hold it up alone.
When push comes to shove, it's always about story telling, not subject matter. I stopped watching Enterprise because it became a soap opera and I felt icky watching it; I didn't enjoy the Undiscovered Country because it had bad flow; Generations was deadly dull and easily predictable; and I hated Nemisis for its extreme cleche and jock-pandering. All this is story telling: bad story telling!
Kahn had fire! The Borg had menace! The whales had humor. The charaters were true to themselves yet they didn't act as you expected.
Adventurous, witty, charismatic, funny... I don't get chicks 'cause I'm none of these things. Star Trek wont get new fans because the way they're telling their stories isn't either... Whether it's the Romulan Wars, Realestate Accounting or my bad hygene, it's how you present the material. A good story, a director with heart and a producer with a good eye, pick any combination of two and it'll be a hit... But I don't think Paramount really believes/strives/cares anymore and so I expect the next movie to suck.
God! I hope I'm wrong.
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| 22 Apr 2006, 10:06 |
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Matress_of_evil
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Scatter
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sirNemanjapro
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| 22 Apr 2006, 18:12 |
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Ritter
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Matress_of_evil
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CaptRingold
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| 22 Apr 2006, 23:31 |
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kslee
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sirNemanjapro
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| 23 Apr 2006, 10:30 |
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Ritter
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lol You haven't even looked at the stuff I already have, Matress, and already you want more? Boshi moi.
The problem with the Star Trek franchise is just a matter of it not appealing to a wide audience anymore. It's not an issue of people not wanting futuristic or space related stuff, it's more a lack of substance. The trick to making Sci-Fi appeal to a large audience--including people who don't particularly care for the genre--is to make the science fiction parts window dressing to a larger story of humanity. Battlestar Galactica--in a close match with South Park and the Daily Show for best show on TV--stars conflicted, constantly evolving people who happen to be trapped in space ships fleeing from killer robots who nuked their planets. Watching the show, you can easily forget about that somewhat odd part of it as the characters are so richly developed.
Star Trek, at least what I've seen over the last few years, seems to largely focus on aliens and space stuff to carry the people's imagination. While I love seeing all the cool gadgets and things which can be thought up, and the more ships the happier I am, if I just wanted to stare at space ships I'd spend my time online going through every picture fans can make. Plus, if the whole point is going to be displaying more advanced ships, why then would I want to go backwards into the past to bulbs with cigarettes stuck in them?
Anyway, that's just my opinion. If they can actually create an in-depth, captivating story with old (meaning familiar, not necessarily age) people, then I guess why not go for it? Still, I think going into the past at all is a mistake, although I don't really think following Riker and the Titan is the way to go, either--Riker is getting pretty old and large, hardly the awe-inspiring hero who should be roaming the ship beating up bad guys, plus we've already seen so much of him. Perhaps a good, captivating, "epic" movie they could do right now would focus on the return of Captain Sisko--something which I've already planned out in my own work, but could see done in the movies--or perhaps an exploration of what Wesley has been doing. The latter would offer a chance for Gates McFadden, a great actress in my opinion, to really show off some of her skills.
And, yes, the movie with Jet Li. He's a skilled actor, and I wish I was half the martial artist he is.
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Captain_Billy_Bacon
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Teleon
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TrekBoyChris
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