federation
enterprise era
NX-O1, NX-02,
tos era
miranda mk1, daudless, constitution, excelsior, ambassador(upgrades from connie)
tng era
miranda mk2, intrpeid (upgrades from miranda) galaxy, nebula, oberth(science ship) akira (heavy cruiser) soverign (dreadnought) defiant(heavy destroyer) nove (upgrades from oberth)
(please post any you feel should be in i know you all love the feds ships)

cardassians
enterprise era
i have yet to make them
tos era go look i made them already
tng
galor, hutet, bakrus, keldon, kullinor hidiki

klingons
enterprise era
d6, d7, raptor (i finaly found a pic so i can make one)
tos era
d7 d9 (did the klingons have a bop in tos?)
tng era
b`rel bop, (two types) k`t`inga, k`vort, vorcha, negh`var

romulans
ent era
we have only seen 1 ship type i need a pic (may need to make some variations on it so we have more than 1 type)
tos era
the bop, as above, just not enough ships from then
tng era
warbird valdore schimitar (any light cruisers or destroyers in the rom fleet?)
i think this will do for the beta, but please add the ships you want as well.

I think this is a really good list for the beta, no point getting carried away.

When you say "upgrades from" do you mean it just replaces it in the build queue? There won't be ships transforming into other ships will there.

yes no autoupgrades, it will replace it in the build q

I'd like to see the Constellation, but as a cruiser rather than a fast attack.

I also think Oberth belongs in tos, with nova replacing it in tng.


I'll stop now though. I guess you'll be able to mod in whatever you like anyways.

Fantastic news!!!!

No build queue full of obsolete ships. I assume then if you mod the game you'll be able to have any ship replace any other in the build queue? That'll be sweet.

dont forget the refitted excelsiors

and the mirandas with the "roll bars"

and the mediteranean class and other classes from tng

i have an idea

ENT ERA - 2100-2220
TOS ERA - 2220-2325
TNG ERA- 2325-2379

wat about that?

also there are oldewr ships whci h have been refitted, so they should be included in the tng era too right?

will the titan class be included?

and dont forget the cardie Hideki class

what did you think the mk1 miranda was?

ill go threu my encyclopedia and get a list

dont forget it wont really be time date ya get ships at, more when you get to a certain level reasearch

how 'bout the other kind of science vessel, shown as the U.S.S. Raven in Voy (perhaps as a diff. era sci. ship)

two types of science ship could work, one upgradeing from the other. like oberth to the one you mention (class name escapes me)

the class name isn't mentioned anywhere, only the ship name

I'd prefer the Nova to the Raven, unless anyone objects.

The ships all belong to their original era, if they are upgraded to stay partially useful they still belong to the era they were built in.

wow

i agree that we should use the nova class instead of the raven

the raven was a private and much less capable ship

i think he was refering to ransoms ship. which i believe was a nova class.

he was

i think

USS EQUINOX

Nova class science starship


-LIST-

heres the list of tng era ships ive gotten so far

List of federal ships


Ambassador- heavy cruiser
Defiant - eascort
Akira- heavy cruise
Steamrunner -cruiser
Norway
Reneisance
Saber - destroyer
Soverign
Prometheus
Intrepid
Miranda
Constellation
Andeomeda
Antares
Apollo
Bradbury
Centaur
Challenger
Cheyenne
Chimera
Daedalus
Curry
Danube
Deneva – freighter
Escelsior and excelsior refits – heavy cruiser
Consititution – heavy cruiser
Freedom
Hokule’a – heavy cruisr
Instanbul – transport
Korolev
Mediteranean – freighter
Merced
Nebula – cruiser/exp[eplorer
New Orleans – frigate
Niagra
Nova – science ship
Oberth – cience ship
Olympic – hospital ship
Rigel
Reneisance
Scout – datas scout – 24 meters long
Soyuz
Sydney – transport
Yeager
Yorkshire – transport

are you on drugs? we want a list of ships for the game, not every ship on starfleet this would be way to much.

for the last time

im NOT on drugs

i simply presented a list of fed ships that i have so far

and what would you propose we do with it, it`s to many ships, we can`t have this many, what would they all do?

its an INITIAL list Puff

im going to start weeding them

but i posted them also to see wat ppl thought

That's too many for any game.

Only thing I ask, is please make sure there are a few spare slots available.
Was a pain squeezing your favourites into botf.

Your list was good, I'd only add, hideki, nova, constellation, and any other made up alien ships. The steamrunner's a cool ship, but perhaps not necessary.

Well i just would like to have the best known vessels in the game, i could always mod they others in.

Exactly, I really think that list has it covered. I'd mod loads in over time, but the official release has to have a sense of balance etc.

i already added the nova and hidiki, i forgot about the constellation though.

these ships shopuld be in

Ambassador- heavy cruiser
Defiant
Akira- heavy cruise
Steamrunner
Norway
Saber
Soverign
Prometheus
Intrepid
Miranda
Constellation
Centaur
Curry – transport/carrier/freighter/assault ship
Danube – already in
Deneva – freighter
Escelsior and excelsior refits – heavy cruiser – already in
Consititution – heavy cruiser – in the game
Mediteranean – freighter
Nebula – cruiser/exp[eplorer – in the game
New Orleans – frigate
Nova
Oberth – cience ship
Olympic – hospital ship – could be used for evacuations
Rigel – ships like akagi and tolstoy
Scout – datas scout – 24 meters long – deployed from starbases?
Sydney – transport



especially the well known ones

akira
steamrunner
saber
centaur
excelsior - all refits


i certainly wouldnt mind being able to build all of those ships that were widely used during the war

and wat about the older ships used during the klingon war?

rutledge
tecumseh
armstrong
drake

they were of older classes

certain classes of ships shouldnt be replaced in favor of others

and dont forget the nebulas, they were widley used too

I think that's perhaps still too many, and there's no need for unknown ships like the rigel or curry.


Just to clear this all up then, ships or the same type will replace one another in the build queue when researched. Looking at it category by category. This is how I personally would do it.

SCIENCE SHIPS


Daedalus (nx/tos era)

Oberth (tos era) replaces daedalus

Nova (tng era, late on) replaces oberth


MULTIPURPOSE STARSHIPS

Nx-01
Nx-02

Constitution (tos era) replaces nx classes, upgrades to movies refit
Excelsior (late tos era)
Ambassador (late tos/early tng) replaces cons

Galaxy/Nebula (tng) replaces ambassador
Sovereign (late tng) replaces excelsior


BATTLESHIPS/OTHERS

Intrepid (nx era) not the voyager one

Miranda (tos era- around cons refit time) replaces intrepid
Constellation (tos- around excelsior time)

Akira (tng- before galaxy) replaces constellation
Intrepid (u don't know..) replaces miranda
Defiant
Prometheus


I'm bound to have missed something.... I think the biggest objection I'll get is that everything gets replaced. However you don't want the miranda clogging up the build queue when you could build an intrepid etc etc etc.

The first intrepid is the ship name not the class name, was in an ent ep.

The Excelsior doesn't get replaced for ages- mainly because it's cool.


Regarding upgrades. I think each ship except for tng era ones should have 2 upgrades, (1 for tng ships).

The first upgrade becomes available exactly between when the ship is researched and when it's replaced.
The second is available when it's actually replaced, that way you won't build any of this configuration as they will be completely outdated, yet you are able to at least bring the older ships somewhere near the newer ones.

If this gets a good reaction I'll do the klings...

the daudless is a tos era ship, which intrepid class was in enterprise? if there is one then we have 3 ships for feds ent era which is enough i reckon.

Well the daedalus predates the constitution, figured it could be between ent and tos somewhere.

If the nx is capable of limited scientific study, we won't need a science ship as such for ent era.

The intrepid was in an ep called the expanse, never watched it- just seen screencaps on various fan sites. It's apparently a bit older than the nx (warp3 or something) but looks really mean. You could start with a handful of these, and have the nx-01 as the brand new ship at the beginning.

well theyd be distributed over the level 1 2 and 3 shipyards

and the curry is a known ship

and the rigel class included the USS AKAGI, which was mentioned in a repair report made by colonel kira


i dont think the soverieng should replace the excelsior

i thinkm the escelosior should supplement the soveriign

rmember there were and are many more excelsiors than there are soveriengs

and i dont thni the miranda or the constellation should be replaced

as they were both used during the dominion war and HEAVILY in the case of the miranda class


i think that only some of the ships should get replaced and other should be refitted as they were in trek

and another thing

THE RELIANCE ON MODS IS TOO HEAVY

ships that were used THROUGHOUT THE DOMINION WAR -

Akira
defiant
glaxy
excelsior
norway
steamrunner
miranda
saber
constellation
intrepid and prometheus to a smaller degree

yes, sum of the older ships maybe should be replaced but the rest should be refitted as they were in trek


and the infamous curry can still be used as a transport/freighter etc