What was lacking in BOTF in terms of intelligence was the fact that you could not do too much. You just allocated a few points to sabotage the Fergies and that was it. What we need is to be able to pick targets as Malvoisin says, to decide where our intel resources have to be spent: I never liked that I put 99% to sabotage the Klingons so that they would destroy some learning halls in who knows which system, even though I set it as a military operation.

And regarding the name of UFP's intel service...Well, I really think the name is not going to make any difference, besides you can later mod that in for yourself. However, if you'd ask me to choose, I'd say go with Starfleet Intelligence, and put section 31 as a random event:

A high raking senator of the Romulan Star Empire has died in a shuttlecraft accident while returning from a diplomatic mission. This senator was head to the senate's wing which favoured a war agains us. Without him, it is likely that the Romulans will maintain present relations with us.

Dunno, something like that. (IF you put section 31 in, that's just an example as to how I see it)

You got rihgt (Janusi,Molvaisin)!

Intelligence report must be of material value for player, something he can use in warfare tactics! Its pointless for intel to be restricted only for stealing few bites of data or destroying one automated farm. Efficient intel report contains-

1. Current location of strongest AI/enemy fleet and number of ships (before- location of one ship)

2. Current status of AI/enemy in tech tree - wep 5, prop 4 bio tech 5
(before- only one field)

3. Current best type or class of AI/enemy ship
(before- none)

Now with these knowledge from military espionage you can form best strategy to attack!

Well from my digs through Trek history ( which is getting larger by the day)
Early TOS, TNG, I did not find any ref to Section 31. (Not to say that it is not there) My understanding is They (stupid wanna be writers) tossed it in. I cannot find a true reference to say it is canon.

Actually to Clairify, there were 3 different type of intel/security for the Romulan Empire before the Tal-Shiar. A feint history shows that the last of one of these agents was killed by Capt Kirk during the Ep where he stole the cloaking device. (This operator was in deep cover) What the names were of these intels is not known. Nor the true name of the Agent. I'm doing my best to get verification for canon sake, but so far to no avail.

Why am I rambling on about this? Well There are many (as discussed before in other threads) who are so touchy about canon, that accuracy is of utmost importance. (Then again Mr Roddenberry made statements about canon being of no real importance) So what do we follow?

Things to think on I guess!

I'm happy to accept either Section 31 or regular SF Intelligence.

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A high raking senator of the Romulan Star Empire has died in a shuttlecraft accident while returning from a diplomatic mission. This senator was head to the senate's wing which favoured a war agains us. Without him, it is likely that the Romulans will maintain present relations with us. [End Quote]

Excellent example, only one question. ( this is for funs sake ) Which Senate was this diplomat with? There are two Senates, the Upper and lower
both are there to balance each other, and to keep the Praetor in line.

The Death of a diplomat would not be investigated by the Tal. As they would view this as "Not thier concern" due to seperation and feeling of "despise" they carry for the Senates . Now had this occured within Romulan Space, they "might investigate, however the information they gather would not be shared with the remaining Senate or Preator, They would in that instance, take correct action (possably) leaving tell tell signs of a outside majors for the Naval investigators to find then pass along to the Senate for them to do the saber rattlings..


Just a little information to share with you all. Not sure if it means anything to the Devs or others.

One thing more, not only Feds have special Structures and Bodys!



Romulan Continuing Committee

The Continuing Committee was one of the highest governing bodies of the Romulan Star Empire. Headed by the praetor, the Committee was comprised of members of the Romulan Senate as well as other high-ranking officials such as the chairman of the Tal Shiar (usually a given, but not guaranteed). One of the Committee's duties is the confirmation of a new praetor. The Committee also serves as a court when criminal charges are brought against members of the Senate.

In 2375 Senator Cretak and Chairman Koval were both vying for an open seat on the Committee. Koval was given the seat after a Section 31 plot eliminated Cretak from consideration. (DS9: "Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges")
It was left unclear exactly what relation the Continuing Committee had to the Romulan Senate. The Committee seemed to be a smaller body than the Senate (seen in Star Trek Nemesis), so perhaps it was a more powerful, executive-type committee that handled important affairs of the Empire, fulfilling a function similar to that of a cabinet or a presidium. Or perhaps it functions like a United States Senate subcommittee, like the powerful Committee on Armed Services.

I can agree on Section 31 (lol Azh = 13) being a random event. As it is we only see it in DS 9 , at least that I am aware of.

You all need to correct me here but the only one I have seen (active) in canon was tha Tal. Even though the Obsidian Order is mentioned we do not see them working. (sadly)

Theres a lot to think hard on with this bit.