With a regards to a clear cut sequel to BOTF there are two main projects.

Mstrobels BOTF Supremacy and Sir P's et al Birth of the Empires game.

At the moment BOTE is further along especially in regards with Multiplayer i believe, though both are generally Alpha stages so the depth you may be looking for isn't there yet. Still they're great to look at and play and will only get better.

Regards Wolfe

They're in pre-alpha stages, sir. An 'alpha' product is feature complete, and neither of our games is at that point yet (certainly not mine). And yes, the forums are a bit cumbersome to navigate, which is why there's been talk in the staff room about a new site and content management system.

Hi TheShepherd, welcome to the site!

Sorry it took me so long to post a reply, I haven't been online much in the last few days coz I've been watching Stargate: Atlantis and Lost.

Anyways, here's a run-down of the various games:


Star Trek: Allegiance is a browser-based game that is being developed by Nemitor Atimen. Instead of downloading it and playing it on your computer, you will play it via your browser, so won't need to download anything big.

It's a little bit confusing to explain a browser-based game, but if you've ever played games such as or it will be similar to those. Allegiance is based on such a game called Solar Empire, but is completely rewritten to make it more fun, more playable, and most of all, more Trek.

The game won't have an AI nor will you be in control of an Empire - instead, each Planet in the game will be owned and run an individual player, and each player will be a member of an Empire.

The game hasn't been opened to the public yet and there are very few screenshots - but I have played a closed test of it myself, and I have to say it is extremely addictive.



BotE is a a game being developed by a group of Germans, led by SirPustekuchen. They started their project completely separate from us, but we are now supporting each other and translating BotE into English for them, as well as providing graphics etc. where needed.

BotE is a downloadable game that was intended from the ground up as a successor to BOTF. It will eventually be everything we expect from a BOTF game - and won't have the annoying memory leak either!

A demo of BotE available in the section. The demo is a pre-alpha game though, which means that it is NOT feature-complete, is NOT fully translated, and MAY contain bugs. It is the most complete of all of the games though.



This is a game being made by BOTF modder extraordinaire Jigalypuff. Jigalypuff took it upon himself to create a BOTF2 game when the original programmer - GTurfey - simply disappeared - along with EVERYTHING he had apparently made.

However, due to the recent introduction of the other games, Jigalypuff scrapped his project and decided to create a completely different game - in fact it will be a completely different genre of game. He has released few details about this game, although he has mentioned that Bridge Commander may be a similar experience to what he is planning.



Supremacy is a game being created by MStrobel. Like BotE, Supremacy is intended as a successor to BOTF, and is an absolutely beautiful game. It is being based on many Vista technologies to make it as advanced as possible - but don't worry, it WILL work on XP.

You can download a demo of Supremacy in the link below. The demo is updated quite regularly, so check this link out often!

However, like BotE, Supremacy is also pre-alpha, and isn't as complete as BotE. You also need to have the .Net Version 3 platform installed for it to work.



Supremacy color change by skeeter

Perhaps you should move this overview to the "Announcements"-topic in this forum too. I think many new members will look to this topic first, so they get a good overview about this site and all the different projects.

i did that pustekuchen

Yeah yeah, that's fine, Skeet, I just thought my monitor was broke or soemthing... 8O

Maybe your eyes are broke . My Samsung LCD has very good color accuracy and I calibrated it with a colorimeter, so .

Photoshop is acceptable.

Yea, I want a shirt as well. Make that 2, one for the wife also.. lol