OK Boss. I think I am done cleaning up the Federation, Romulans, Cardassians, Klingons and Dominion. I found some ships we did not have images for. Those images I took and uploaded to SharePoint. The images without ships and extra models are marked. The image library now represents what we have uploaded to SharePoint for those races.

It is nice to see we have more ships than I thought. Considering that Jig has competed most of the Cardassians we are well on our way.

Please check out the image library for these races and see if you approve of the assignment. I depend on your knowledge of ships to find my errors. Post what you find and I will fix it.

There are now several ships on SharePoint that do not show as complete in the Shiplist. We will need to update that too.

Warp Factor 8!

Just checking. It looks like the Klingon Colonyships will have BANG BANG guns in our games or did I get that wrong? 8O

Klingon Colonyship One will likely be the next ship done.

Klingon Colonyship I

Ooh interesting design. VERY Klingon-y.

Yes, ALL Klingon non-combat ships will have weapons of some kin, but they certainly won't be battleships. All of the most advanced non-combat ships of the other Empires will be armed as well. Tell you what, i'll update the shiplist so people know which ships these are.

Matress is right, your ship looks to powerfull for transport ship... it would be better as minor ship destroyer or cruiser.

Btw. excellent job Ken with Fed orbital, looks great!!

Is there any kind of minors shiplist? Stats, damage, hull, strenth etc.?

Dafedz shiplist is only for major powers and includes scouts,destroyers, cruisers, command ships ... what about fighter class? (which is needed for minors fighter ships)

I will look at the list and see what I can do with the model.

Thanks for uploading those missing models Zeleni. I took the liberty of renaming each of them for a position on the shiplist. In order to match the models to the ships in the games it has become necessary to drop names like Raven and Bird of Prey for names off the shiplist like K Scout I and R Destroyer II. (leading letter for the major race and name off the list)

All the work of renaming, putting in parts we did not have and finding ships we did not realize were there has left the shiplist out of date regarding what models are built and those that are not. We need to check both the shiplist and the sharepoint before finding where to add in any new models to the major races.

I do not know where the specific data on minor race ship's weapons, shields and the like is located.

I found this on minor race ships
Click on Minor Race Ships and look down the page at the table.

http://www.trekmania.net/temp_files/botf2_home.htm


Thanks Dafedz wherever you are.

Jig's Cardassian ships new on SharePoint

I can honestly say I did not notice that link.

Glad someone was looking!

I'll see if I can contact Dafedz. Parts of the database need a massive overhaul now that we have emblems and structures and models and stuff.

lol thats certainly creative license with the cardassian heavy cruiser and destroyer

Well it took him long enough before he exhausted all his ideas. Kenneth has been pumping the models out as of late so give him a break!

...Besides, the balls are new.

Shiplist updated.

*Edit - Kenneth, why is the image called Acamarian.jpg when it's the Caldonian Cruiser?

that is so ugly it makes me want to hurl, it is quite simply a hideous abortion which should never have seen the light of day. this is what i meant the other day in that pm, you can`t take major race ships and kitbash them for minors, they are to easily known as a major vessel. and i`m fairly certain the calsoinians are not meant to be space fareing

Please check and correct the shiplist so we can be clear on what races get ships.

All the suggestions help.

LOL and you thought i wasn't being diplomatic

I'm 99% sure the Caldonians AREN'T spacefaring...but Dafedz gave them ships.

The database needs a serious update, the problem is I haven't seen or heard from Dafedz in quite a while. As soon as I get in contact with him, he'll have all the info he needs to update the Database and fix any blatant errors such as this one.

Stupid question:
Where can I find the sharepoint site again?
And how do I make sure I'm dealing with BotF2 files?
I tried to find it within these 32 pages but failed... and am ashamed.

Edit: I don't agree that the Klingon Colony I looks too fearsome. To my eyes, it looks big, bulky and slow with a little of the usual Klingon weaponry thrown on top. Which is to say, it looks perfect for the role of a Klingon colony ship... My only criticism is that the warp nacelles look like they're from the Excelsior. Since the klingon ship would come first and the Excelsior was a prototype -- and so probably did not come from espionage -- this seems highly unlikely.

"Easy, big fella" (O'Neill to Teal'c). Kenneth has been diligently cranking out models for this game, and on the whole, he's done a pretty good job. This is especially true considering he had no prior modelling experience at all. Naturally, not every model posted here is going to be a winner, and if someone submits a model you don't like, try throwing out some constructive criticism rather than just bashing the artist. Senseless flaming is counterproductive. If you can't be civil and constructive, then don't say anything at all. Go kick a puppy if it'll make you feel better .

given how bad that ship was what i said was constructive critisicim, i had already said in a pm to him that kitbashing major race ships for minors would`nt work, it would make far more sense to use the talarian ship, after all it has been ruesed by the shows for a dozen different races already. and i did`nt bash him, i bashed the ship. now were`s that puppy?

One mistake but orbitals are great! Go Ken Go!!

http://www.botf2.com/default.aspx

I found this for SharePoint

Klingon Scout I

and

The former Klingon Colony Ship has moved over to Heavy Cruiser but I need to finish the refit. Your helpful advice is appreciated ZDarby so I will rework the warp nacelles.

Scout I looks great!!

i thought the kling scout 1 was the raptor?

Ah, Jig might be right about the Raptor (one of my favorite ships). I guess that had slipped my mind, Ken. Though I'm sure we can find another use for your current model .

The Raptor is the Destroyer 1 - the Klingon Scout - ALL of the Scouts - are the B'rel class. The B'rel will be the longest-lasting design in the game and will get two upgrades - more than any other ship. Most ships don't even get one upgrade!



To help differentiate the ships, I've told Kenneth that he can either create three different B'rel models, or come up with three different textures for the same model.

Each ship will be more detailed than the last, with the early B'rel possibly looking like the Romulan BOP from TOS, whilst the more modern B'rels would have more hull panelling, pipes, windows, and so on.

If people want to suggest a change to the shiplist, then say so here. I've sent an email to Dafedz but am still waiting for a reply.

that must be a mistake on daf`s part moe, the kling scout 1 should be the raptor as thats what the raptor is, a scout. and their destroyer i should be the early era bop form ent, and their cruiser 1 should be the d4 battle cruiser.



i`ll make the models.

I have been working off the posted shiplist only to keep track of the ships as they are added to SharePoint. Each dev can chose how to use each model in the game they build. Just change the name as you need. If someone wants to change the list or make a new one it is all OK by me as well. We could have game specific lists if you like. I am just trying to learn to build the better ships. Repeating myself - I use the existing ship list only to keep track of what and how many are built and what is not.

In the case of B'rel and other ship progressions that use the same outward form I will try to change the paint job and other texture detail so there is some visual distinction _ (now I just repeated MOE.) I do feel we should be able to tell them apart even when seen smaller as in the games.

Fussy dice on the rear view mirror, pin strips and a bobble head Jesus by the back window are not enough to distinguish the ships I build.

Acamarian Raider / new texturing (Not quite satisfied)
Any volunteers for texturing this ship?