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Thanks and yes. The mesh would help. You could put it on SharePoint.

Here is one more ship and I need help.

What type is the Andor class and can we use it?

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I'll upload the SB then nad put it in the For_Ken folder (tomorrow)

b.t.w. - here's the pic of hte Kondal (bottom):
http://www.armadafleetcommand.com/afc/m ... ad&cid=167

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Sweet ride. :D

Q: Could the Yamato be used as SCOUT II
-Soyuz Class with a little rework?

Q: Should we change the Shiplist to Cardassian Hutet as the Dreadnought from the Monak?

Q: Does anyone have a suggestion about use of the B Wing above? Is it OK (besides the low poly count) and if so what race?

Q: Could the Andor above take the place of SURVEYOR II from the
Oberth that we do not have on SharePoint? (or make Andor Surveyor I and move the Surveyor I we do have up to Surveyor II?)

Q: What is the difference between red shift and Doppler shift?

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DON'T use the B-wing... There's nothing that sez sloppy work like using ships form another universe or TV show.

B.t.w.w - I upladed the max scene (For_Ken folder)


Also, take a look at these beauties:
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Excelsior, Titan, Excalibur and Titanic (colony ship)

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Looks good. I will not us the B wing as is but hold on to the model. It may help to bash and poly up a minor race ship later on.

Q: Should we make shuttles for the Federation surveyor ships and move the modes we do have there up to scout ships?

Again credit to Major A Payne for this Dominion Attackship IV, Darkwing Virulent

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I put this in as the Attackship II. It is visually different than the Attackship III Bug we already have.

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An extra Early Fed (referred to as "Intrepid" - a name and not our intrepid class?) and Extra Challenger and Extra Vivace (see sharepoint)

http://www.botf2.com/Image%20Library/Fo ... tion&View={2EAB3CAC-2EF3-4EA6-85DB-87B0D9B58BA0}

I put this in as the Evora Surveyor for now

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F Explorer I Ambassador

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Romulan Scout II D'Kor

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Dominion shipyard I (small)

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Is the Klingon C-9A some kind of special deal or can I use this as the Klingon Destroyer II Scorpion? If not than what can I use it for?

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Klingon Surveyor I Vornak (bash)

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XINDI CRUISER

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Federation Extra Cantell (see sharepoint)

http://www.botf2.com/Image%20Library/Fo ... tion&View={2EAB3CAC-2EF3-4EA6-85DB-87B0D9B58BA0}

Klingon Destroyer III Bloodaxe (Choq'batlh)

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Klingon Assault Cruiser Negh'Var

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Klingon Colonyship I

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Klingon Scout II 3rd class (late B'rel)

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Klingon Destroyer IV Fireblade

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Klingon Transport III K'Toch

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Dominion BATTLE CRUISER IV Aurora

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Federation Extra Cardiff

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Federation Extra Cheyenne

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Dominion PROBE SHIP II Viper

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Federation Explorer III Sovereign V1

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or Federation Explorer III Sovereign V2

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ANKARI CRUISER

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Federation Extra Diligent and Federation Extra Draven (see sharepoint)

http://www.botf2.com/Image%20Library/Fo ... tion&View={2EAB3CAC-2EF3-4EA6-85DB-87B0D9B58BA0}

Federation Cruiser IV Excelsior

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Federation Cruiser IV Excelsior V2

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Federation Tactical Cruiser Prometheus V2

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and Federation Tactical Cruiser Prometheus V1

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Federation Scout I Hermes

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or
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or
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Federation Surveyor III Nova

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Federation Extra Mantis (see sharepoint)

http://www.botf2.com/Image%20Library/Fo ... tion&View={2EAB3CAC-2EF3-4EA6-85DB-87B0D9B58BA0}

Federation Frigate III New Orleans

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Federation Heavy Cruiser I Niagara

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Federation Surveyor II Oberth

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F Heavy Cruiser II Nebula

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Federation Heavy Scout Saber

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Federation Extra Roosevelt (see Sharepoint)

http://www.botf2.com/Image%20Library/Fo ... ulan&View={2EAB3CAC-2EF3-4EA6-85DB-87B0D9B58BA0}

Dominion Scout I Monitor

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Federation Transport II London

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Federation Colonyship I

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Federation Extra Neptune

(see Sharepoint) http://www.botf2.com/Image%20Library/Fo ... ulan&View={2EAB3CAC-2EF3-4EA6-85DB-87B0D9B58BA0}

Klingon Scout II Class 2

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Klingon Heavy Cruiser II

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The following ships are credit to Little Ludi

D Attackship I Chameleon

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D Battle Cruiser I Medusa

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D Outpost II

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D Battleship II

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Klingon Surveyor III

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If there is credit for the following ships it is by credit file in the individual uploaded files.

Klingon Battle Cruiser IV class 2 K't'inga - We have two options

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Romulan Transport I Cabbage

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Romulan Cruiser III Derex
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R Cruiser II D'Renedex

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Romulan Extra Griffin

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Romulan Science Ship II

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Romulan Science Ships III

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Romulan Extra Snipe

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I will work this into the Federation Hospital ship II

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Romulan Curiser I

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Federation Cruiser III Refit Constitution

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F Heavy Destroyer II Streamrunner

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Federation Distroyer I Constellation

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Fed Figate II Miranda

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Fed Hospital Ship I (needs a poly up)

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Dominion Probe I (needs retexture to dominion and polyup)

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Dominion Transport III (needs some work)

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Dominion Transport II

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woot some real cool progress and ship models, gj

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B.t.w. - making the Yamao into a Soyuz? Well the saucer saction is VERY similar...but the Yamato is... a warhippure and simple..and it looks the part...If you can find a lower-poly model of it or if somone can make it that is :D

I'll hvae a fully textured Sabre class soon... + maby a few more things :wink:

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Romulan Transport (Armada Conversion)
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I have that Dominion (actualyl romulan) shipyard on my HDD..that's some very detailed model, maby too high in polycount for this game...

NOTE - I wil ltake a tad longer with the Sabre...I?m not satisfied with the texture I got so I'll have to fiddle with it a bit :?

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Thanks for the heads up on our Dominion, (renamed Romulan,) shipyard. I got a poly 5,780 count off Milkshape 3D.

Will that be OK for a shipyard in our games or should they be lower?

We could always just take the top half.

Good luck with the retexture. Some times I get tired and just put the ship up with the intention of coming back. With these new low poly ships I will be spending even more time going back.

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I have talked to the burning bush and Mike says:

"Shipyards and Stations can have a pretty high poly limit--I believe I had said 25,000 polys?"

So we can treat the yard in the same way as our humungus starbases. The Dominion ship yard is good to go. It is the Cardassian Starbase monster we have to cut down to size. I am guessing that model is one used in the DS9 TV shows.

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What are you talking about? I made all the Cardassian shipyards - they're very optimized as far as polycount goes...

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The Cardassian Starbase on SharePoint, as seen in DS9, is beyond the poly count limit by several multiples.

The Cardassian Shipyards are poly count OK and they look good too.

Nice Romulan Transport conversion Zeleni.

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Cardassian Outpost and Starbase (Low Poly). Maybe they need new textures or poly number ... i don t know ... i ll leave decision to you guys :wink:

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They look nice. Put them up on SharePoint. We can take a closer look at them. They could be used as is, have the poly increase or re textured. Thanks for the nice models.

I would call that Starbase I and Outpost II

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SB needds moe poly...badly...tehre's a good and detailed model of it for Armada 2...if you can convert from .SOD

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I can... upload Sod to sharepoint or give me the link :wink:

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Dominion probe ship viper's nacelles look to much like federations, may need to change, also colour scheme for both this and battle cruiser aurora are federation 'like' aswell.

though glad to see more ships coming in, by the way which race is least filled at the moment?

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Methinks this is hte one:
http://www.armadafleetcommand.com/afc/m ... ad&cid=116

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Can t be open it is not stock model. :(

Wolfe is right, ship looks tooo much fedrational...

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They look Federation because they are Federation.

I am loading these low poly ships up so we can all get at them and work on them later. We have permission to them.

The Federations ships in the Minor Race area of SharePoint are there because I saw them as easily re-mesh or re_texture to that use.

If you see a better way to use them help yourself.

If I die in a bridge collapse or a terrorist booming tomorrow all these ship will be here for you and others to use. Help your self.

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I hope you won't die tomorrow 'cause it would be a big blow for the Community!

Long live Kenneth of Borg! :wink:

I think we have to respect our own rules... We are building canon ships for the Federation, Romulans, Cardassians and etc.
Same rules should be adopted by minor races ships. More than 2/3rd of minor ships have canon design. For the other third part of the ship group we can do what we want!

P.S: Of course, this is only my opinion!

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Zeleni wrote:
Can t be open it is not stock model. :(


I DID mention you need a .SOD converter for it..didn't I?

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I agree about sticking to cannon but I have little knowledge of it. If you see a ship that is in the wrong please point it out. Please also suggest where it could be better used. Put in a link to information about what it should be. I depend on the knowledge of others.

The Federation Image Library on SharePoint has expanded to two pages. If you are looking there remember to click over to page two.

There currently is a tie between the Cardassians and the Dominion for the smallest number of ships showing up in the image library, about eleven each.

http://www.botf2.com/Image%20Library/Fo ... ions&View={2EAB3CAC-2EF3-4EA6-85DB-87B0D9B58BA0}

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Ick...Sabre textures I find SUCK
I have to re-work them completely! GAh..and the only ones that do look good are so low res that I wanna kill myself.

One the up side the Romulan light cruiser tecture is coming along nicely..allmsot done..

http://www.ferrium.org/trashman/TREK/STTex.JPG

I'll have to work more on the romulans starbase textures to boot.

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Add this sucker:
http://www.armadafleetcommand.com/major ... kondal.jpg

Heavy Cruiser/battleship


Erm...the picture under Fed Akira...that's NOT teh Akira... :?

EDIT - Use hte current FEd Orbital Battery for minor races..I'll make a new orbital battery for hte feds...this one doesn't look quite fed..

And what's with all the re-naming? the Kerchan and Nieerh? Why not keep their original names?

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Yes. I am just loading up models as I find them. We still have a lot of work to do to make them game ready. Thanks for the observations.

Your ships are coming along very nicely.

That is a good point about the Federation battery. We could re textured it to the Klingons. The minors do not have any batteries. We also could call it a minor race ship with more work.

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http://www.ferrium.org/trashman/TREK/Vorchaz.JPG

I'm tweaking the Dethblade a bit..added two fang like thingies to the front..I'm also experimenting with the size and position of hte nacelees.

To hte left the current model. To the right you can see the nacelle moved towards the back, like on most klingon ships...and even more to the right a smaller nacelle, placed mid-point.
Frankly, I like this postition (mid, smaller nacele) the best.

Your thoughts?

EDIT - I'm slowing my work on BOTF2 stuff...There is no need to hurry as no project has a battle engine to speak off (speaking of which, mstrobel - why don't you use a done engine, like homeworld...or find a coder that will do jsut the engine while you do the other stuff? )[/list]

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I vote for the one on the right as well. It has a more interesting shape.

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I am in the process of asking for permission from an additional modeler.
This is an example of one ship they build for species 8472.

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If we get permission do you think there is a minor race we could use this for?

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