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Matress_of_evil
Evil Romulan Overlord of Evil - Now 100% Faster!
Joined: 02 Dec 2004, 01:00 Posts: 7392 Location: Returned to the previous place.
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| 24 Aug 2007, 16:04 |
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mstrobel
Chief Software Engineer
Joined: 11 Aug 2005, 01:00 Posts: 2688
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Predefined weapons arcs = a lot more data to define. I think it would be better to just specify a set of hardpoints on the models with flags specifying whether it can be a source for a torpedo, phaser, or both. Then some quick 3D math to determine which hardpoint a given shot should fire from (i.e. the one which has the most direct line of sight to the target). Combat is just one component of the game, and there's no reason for it to be as in-depth and detail-oriented as, say, Sarfleet Command.
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| 25 Aug 2007, 03:05 |
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TrashMan
Ship Engineer
Joined: 09 Jun 2005, 01:00 Posts: 334 Location: On the bridge of the USS Apocalypse
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HMm...how would that accomodate front-firepower heavy ships?..Like Klingons and Romulans?
Defining points should be easy enough, but should tehy be vectors?
Then have a 90° automatic fire arc for each of them or maby a smaller one for some specific weapons.
So when a ship wants to fire a phaser it makes a check to see which weapon hardpoint with a pahser "flag" is the closest to teh target and is within that 90° (actually 180° if you look at both sides of a vector) cone...
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| 25 Aug 2007, 13:50 |
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jigalypuff
Jig of the Puff
Joined: 10 Sep 2004, 01:00 Posts: 1305 Location: I wish i knew
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be easier to do a scan between ships and closet vertice is the one used as the fireing point.
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| 25 Aug 2007, 14:33 |
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TrashMan
Ship Engineer
Joined: 09 Jun 2005, 01:00 Posts: 334 Location: On the bridge of the USS Apocalypse
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That would work on fed ships given their coverage, also on cardassian, but what for klingon and romulan ships?
If 2 ships stand side by side, then the klingons wing disruptor in the BOP will be the closes fire point to another ship next to it, but it can't fire in a 90° arc
Or should I say, shouldn't...
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| 25 Aug 2007, 22:07 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
Ship Engineer
Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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I have loaded some bases in for the Dominion from ModelsPlease.
shipyard I (small)
Starbase II
Other bases of his crash my MilkShape import. They will have to wait for his return. It does look like we have all we will need for Outposts and Starbases if these can be made to work.
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| 26 Aug 2007, 03:49 |
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Malvoisin
Fleet Admiral
Joined: 13 Nov 2006, 01:00 Posts: 2111 Location: Germany
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fascinating.. 
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| 26 Aug 2007, 08:38 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
Ship Engineer
Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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I have done some repair work on the mesh and a quick re texture job on the Dominion Colonyship I. It had been online as a Federation ship. It looked like a funky old Colonyship to me so here it is for now.
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| 29 Aug 2007, 23:33 |
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Malvoisin
Fleet Admiral
Joined: 13 Nov 2006, 01:00 Posts: 2111 Location: Germany
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| 30 Aug 2007, 09:11 |
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jigalypuff
Jig of the Puff
Joined: 10 Sep 2004, 01:00 Posts: 1305 Location: I wish i knew
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looks like the liberator at the back 
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| 30 Aug 2007, 19:29 |
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mstrobel
Chief Software Engineer
Joined: 11 Aug 2005, 01:00 Posts: 2688
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| 31 Aug 2007, 01:08 |
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ZDarby
Lieutenant Junior Grade
Joined: 22 Nov 2004, 01:00 Posts: 201 Location: Nor Cal
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As it is, it's too recognizable to those who know Okazaki's Star Fleet Museum as the Wasp. However, a kitbash of nacelles -- and perhaps the pylons -- and it'll look specially designed... You could even just shorten the pylons to about half, increase the diameter of the nacelles to compensate then shorten the necells a bit and call it done....
Just a suggestion. Feel free to ignore it.
I like what you've done with it and where it's going.
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| 02 Sep 2007, 22:08 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
Ship Engineer
Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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All good suggestions. I will do that. All the models can always be made better. And the nacelles more along the lines of Dominion on top of all that.
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| 03 Sep 2007, 03:34 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
Ship Engineer
Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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I have done some repair work on the mesh for the Federation Cruiser V (intrepid.) This is it for now.
It is still the USS MOE. I will try to rename other Federation ships for our members --- like the USS Zeleni.... As with ships like the Enterprise we can reuse the name tech level after tech level.
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| 04 Sep 2007, 01:43 |
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Malvoisin
Fleet Admiral
Joined: 13 Nov 2006, 01:00 Posts: 2111 Location: Germany
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hm, look at that one:
I personally like the Antares, it fits rather nicely into kirk era so if anyone wants to pick up the model (free download), go ahead.
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| 07 Sep 2007, 09:25 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
Ship Engineer
Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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| 07 Sep 2007, 14:15 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
Ship Engineer
Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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I was able to convert the model. It was about three times our limit for a mesh so it had to be hacked down to this.
There is still some work that could improve it's mesh and detail by texturing. This is it for now. I put it in as an early Federation Colonyship option.
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| 08 Sep 2007, 16:36 |
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Matress_of_evil
Evil Romulan Overlord of Evil - Now 100% Faster!
Joined: 02 Dec 2004, 01:00 Posts: 7392 Location: Returned to the previous place.
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The unusual cargo section could definitely work as a colonisation module. Good choice.
I've finished my student placement now (:cry:) so i've got two weeks of (Almost) free time. I'll be working on the shiplist...and the random events...and the new techs for BOTE...scratch that, i'm busy for the next two weeks! 
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| 08 Sep 2007, 18:15 |
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Zeleni
Aesthetics Surgeon
Joined: 24 Oct 2006, 01:00 Posts: 1350 Location: Croatia
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| 08 Sep 2007, 19:19 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
Ship Engineer
Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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You deserve recognition
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| 09 Sep 2007, 04:13 |
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mstrobel
Chief Software Engineer
Joined: 11 Aug 2005, 01:00 Posts: 2688
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| 09 Sep 2007, 07:28 |
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Matress_of_evil
Evil Romulan Overlord of Evil - Now 100% Faster!
Joined: 02 Dec 2004, 01:00 Posts: 7392 Location: Returned to the previous place.
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| 10 Sep 2007, 11:58 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
Ship Engineer
Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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| 10 Sep 2007, 14:09 |
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mstrobel
Chief Software Engineer
Joined: 11 Aug 2005, 01:00 Posts: 2688
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| 10 Sep 2007, 15:49 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
Ship Engineer
Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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That is something I can do. It would save you time for programming. I will do an alphabetical list for credit. It would be easier though to let the specific model have the file for credit. I do not want to track each model and bash by authors. 
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| 10 Sep 2007, 20:23 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
Ship Engineer
Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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I have upgraded the Dominion Colonyship I based on your suggestions. This is it for now.
Makes me want to play the Dominion, I mean Killer Clown Empire.
Last edited by Kenneth_of_Borg on 16 Sep 2007, 01:19, edited 1 time in total.
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| 14 Sep 2007, 23:46 |
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Malvoisin
Fleet Admiral
Joined: 13 Nov 2006, 01:00 Posts: 2111 Location: Germany
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fits perfectly
btw. looky here:
someone has to download this amazing stuff before it gets offline again somehow  !
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| 15 Sep 2007, 05:56 |
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Zeleni
Aesthetics Surgeon
Joined: 24 Oct 2006, 01:00 Posts: 1350 Location: Croatia
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Yes, Dominion ship looks good.... maybe adding few pipes or circuit panels for connecting the old and the new part of the ship to have the appearance of a single body.
Check out Malv page Ken... Romulan Shrike Class is missin in our shiplist
also check this>
http://www.staryards.com/Downloads/Ship ... om_TNG.htm
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| 15 Sep 2007, 10:52 |
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ZDarby
Lieutenant Junior Grade
Joined: 22 Nov 2004, 01:00 Posts: 201 Location: Nor Cal
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Both these guys have been around for ages. They're probably not going anywhere soon.
'course, now that I've said that....
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| 15 Sep 2007, 20:07 |
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skeeter
Klingon Honor Guard
Joined: 22 Apr 2005, 01:00 Posts: 1527 Location: UK
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Not a fan of this, its a kitbash and we shouldnt really do kitbashes as they never look nice or work. Just my opinion. As this model is a dadelous (sp) front, a sonar wings, and a dominion back end. Just looks wrong.
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| 15 Sep 2007, 20:13 |
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