Supremacy Pre-Release Download
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mstrobel
Chief Software Engineer
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You should really just copy the whole Data folder over, Matress, or ask me which files to copy. And next time don't delete your old copy until you have verified that the all the data is working in the new one  .
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| 16 Oct 2007, 17:35 |
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Matress_of_evil
Evil Romulan Overlord of Evil - Now 100% Faster!
Joined: 02 Dec 2004, 01:00 Posts: 7392 Location: Returned to the previous place.
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I did copy the whole folder, but then you told me I only needed the Data folder, but I kept the images folder coz i've updated a few images, and now you've been adding more!
How are we supposed to know which files you've updated anyways? Your updates might break our updates for all we know! 
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| 16 Oct 2007, 18:03 |
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mstrobel
Chief Software Engineer
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That's why I said "or ask me which files to copy"  . The editor works with a set of several files--that's why the editor is so convenient. Otherwise you'd have to edit a half dozen different files by hand  .
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| 16 Oct 2007, 18:13 |
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cdrwolfe
Combat Engineer
Joined: 18 Jul 2005, 01:00 Posts: 1001
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Well i've got a nice 80mb folder of ship images, some good ones from battle clinic, it would be helpful to know your views on images taken from other sites MStrobel?
I know MOEs views  , me personally i see no reason using just the images and it's something that BotE doesn't have to much a problem with either lol.
Regards Wolfe
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| 16 Oct 2007, 18:34 |
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mstrobel
Chief Software Engineer
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If you can get permission from the artist, it's fine with me. Eventually though, the images ought to be replaced with renders of our actual models.
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| 16 Oct 2007, 18:49 |
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cdrwolfe
Combat Engineer
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Well half the images don't have authors and i very much doubt i'll be able to email the others lol. I wouldn't think they'd mind but who really knows.
Regards Wolfe
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| 16 Oct 2007, 18:57 |
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McLeast
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Joined: 06 Jan 2007, 01:00 Posts: 12
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Here I am again!hehe....nowI have toask for some essential things and first want to forgive my unknowlege if i will say or interprete something wrong!
I want ask you guys how you want to publish the Game?Because im sure you dont want to spend all your time and money for free or?We all know that StarTrek has a Big FanBase!But i dont know if some of the StarTrek Trademarks will be hurt when you try to publish it or?How do you want to make money with the Game?I dont talk about a hugh amount of money just 10 dollars or sth. but we all know that Botf wasn't successfull enough to produce a second one!So how do you want to make sure that once your game is finish you have enough people who play this Game?And when you are supporting this Game (Updates/Community-stuff......etc,,,) how are gonna to profit from it?I dont want to make a Commercial thing of it!But im afraid that maybe in Future the game wont be finished because of (Trademark,Money=costs and so on)!
Is it possible to make an Browser game of it?Like SpacePioneers?Or maybe ClientGame where you can download a Part of the Game on your Pc, and the Server are updating the Game in every Tick!the mainproblem i see is
1)is the community Big enough to keep the game runing?
2)BroswerGame/ClientGame or a game like Botf,but in that case how u will provide it!
3)Are you willing to make the game free or support it for free
4)Will be any Trademarks difficulties in future with Paramount Inc. or Activision whoever has the rights on it?!!
hmm....I hope i could mention all of the Problems i thought about!
I hope nothing of the Probloems iv' mentioned will come true!I Just want to know how everthing will be released and supportetd in future!Sorry for Grammatical faults or wrong senteces but i hope you guys understand the Main Problems i see!I hope u dont missunderstand my Post!Im wishing the best for the Game and you Guys!Good Luck keep on working!And i hope the Game will be released preety fast!!!!
Greetings McLeast
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| 16 Oct 2007, 19:35 |
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cdrwolfe
Combat Engineer
Joined: 18 Jul 2005, 01:00 Posts: 1001
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The game is free, will always be free, it isn't going to be published and if it were my god would Paramount reem us a new a-hole.
So there ya go
Regards Wolfe
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| 16 Oct 2007, 19:41 |
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Malvoisin
Fleet Admiral
Joined: 13 Nov 2006, 01:00 Posts: 2111 Location: Germany
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| 16 Oct 2007, 20:08 |
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mstrobel
Chief Software Engineer
Joined: 11 Aug 2005, 01:00 Posts: 2688
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| 16 Oct 2007, 20:12 |
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cdrwolfe
Combat Engineer
Joined: 18 Jul 2005, 01:00 Posts: 1001
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Thought i'd let you in on an error, no doubt a result of my screwing around with the editor lol
Nullable object must have a value.
at System.ThrowHelper.ThrowInvalidOperationException(ExceptionResource resource)
at System.Nullable`1.get_Value()
at Supremacy.Universe.GalaxyGenerator.GeneratePlanetsWithHomeworld(StarSystemDescriptor system, Civilization civ) in C:\Documents and Settings\mikest\My Documents\Visual Studio 2008\Projects\Supremacy_2008\SupremacyCore\Universe\GalaxyGenerator.cs:line 533
at Supremacy.Universe.GalaxyGenerator.PlaceHomeworlds(IList`1 positions, IList`1 starNames) in C:\Documents and Settings\mikest\My Documents\Visual Studio 2008\Projects\Supremacy_2008\SupremacyCore\Universe\GalaxyGenerator.cs:line 468
at Supremacy.Universe.GalaxyGenerator.GenerateGalaxy(GameContext game) in C:\Documents and Settings\mikest\My Documents\Visual Studio 2008\Projects\Supremacy_2008\SupremacyCore\Universe\GalaxyGenerator.cs:line 178
at Supremacy.Game.GameContext.Initialize() in C:\Documents and Settings\mikest\My Documents\Visual Studio 2008\Projects\Supremacy_2008\SupremacyCore\Game\GameContext.cs:line 334
at Supremacy.Game.GameContext..ctor(GameOptions options) in C:\Documents and Settings\mikest\My Documents\Visual Studio 2008\Projects\Supremacy_2008\SupremacyCore\Game\GameContext.cs:line 315
at Supremacy.Game.GameContext.Create(GameOptions options) in C:\Documents and Settings\mikest\My Documents\Visual Studio 2008\Projects\Supremacy_2008\SupremacyCore\Game\GameContext.cs:line 301
at Supremacy.WCF.SupremacyService.DoStartGame() in C:\Documents and Settings\mikest\My Documents\Visual Studio 2008\Projects\Supremacy_2008\SupremacyService\SupremacyService.cs:line 550
at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart_Context(Object state)
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart()
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| 17 Oct 2007, 00:22 |
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mstrobel
Chief Software Engineer
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| 17 Oct 2007, 03:55 |
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Valcoren
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Joined: 10 Aug 2005, 01:00 Posts: 309 Location: Florida, USA
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I found this to be interesting. when building outposts even if you start to build a few at the same time they dont complete themselves at the same time? I had 4 outposts I started and two completed 4 turns earlier then the other two.
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| 18 Oct 2007, 04:57 |
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cdrwolfe
Combat Engineer
Joined: 18 Jul 2005, 01:00 Posts: 1001
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Lazy Union workers, and not Cardassian at that
Regards Wolfe
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| 18 Oct 2007, 11:24 |
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mstrobel
Chief Software Engineer
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| 18 Oct 2007, 13:04 |
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cdrwolfe
Combat Engineer
Joined: 18 Jul 2005, 01:00 Posts: 1001
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Played for a bit, then it hanged at a turn 'prcessing moves...' also seemed to be a memory leak as i watched the memory at 379mb slowly increment upwards every second.
Regards Wolfe
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| 18 Oct 2007, 18:41 |
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Matress_of_evil
Evil Romulan Overlord of Evil - Now 100% Faster!
Joined: 02 Dec 2004, 01:00 Posts: 7392 Location: Returned to the previous place.
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379mb? Is that just for Supremacy or for your whole computer? My computer currently shows a "commit charge" of 645mb/2498mb and goes up to 875 when I load up Supremacy. That's over 100mb difference between our computers...
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I just checked Supremacy myself (First time i've tried playing it since I started making my edits AND actually ben able to get it to work) and I noticed quite a major slowdown in the game too. It seems the sheer number of additions i've made to the game - even on a small map - is a bit much for the game.
It just took 27 seconds for the game to process turn 2 - compared to an average of 5 seconds on a small map before my changes. What makes it worse is the fact that i'm barely two thirds of the way through adding the minor races, and have yet to add in all the images, special buildings, and whatnot. Then there's Wolfes changes and additions...this is gonna be one big game... 8O
Mike, the game now seems to hang a little bit on the "performing cleanup" stage. This may be due to the fact that my edits are incomplete as of yet, however. The downloading updated game state is still the slowest part of the processing though, and is taking about 20 of the 27 seconds to complete.
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| 18 Oct 2007, 19:55 |
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Zeleni
Aesthetics Surgeon
Joined: 24 Oct 2006, 01:00 Posts: 1350 Location: Croatia
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You want trendy game without memory shortage? 
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| 18 Oct 2007, 21:04 |
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mstrobel
Chief Software Engineer
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| 19 Oct 2007, 02:19 |
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Fracture
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| 19 Oct 2007, 19:07 |
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Matress_of_evil
Evil Romulan Overlord of Evil - Now 100% Faster!
Joined: 02 Dec 2004, 01:00 Posts: 7392 Location: Returned to the previous place.
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Hi Fracture, welcome to the forums! It's always nice to see a new face around here, especially one that gives praise to the hard work of our developers.
If Supremacy ever crashes, have a look in the Supremacy folder for a file called error.txt - if there is ANYTHING written in that file, post it in this thread.
Error reports allow Mike to track down any potential problems - so if it's a bug, he can fix it. Alternatively he might be able to find a reason for the crash, such as an incompatibility or something, and advise you further on it.
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Mike, I've zipped my current files for you. I zipped my Data folder and the EN-UK.txt file.
Like I said, my files are still way from complete, but i'm definitely getting there. 
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| 19 Oct 2007, 22:04 |
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mstrobel
Chief Software Engineer
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Matress_of_evil
Evil Romulan Overlord of Evil - Now 100% Faster!
Joined: 02 Dec 2004, 01:00 Posts: 7392 Location: Returned to the previous place.
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Fine then, here's my . 
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| 20 Oct 2007, 11:19 |
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Admiral101
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Joined: 25 Oct 2007, 01:00 Posts: 1
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1 word:
AMAZING!!!!
Can't wait for the full version. If there's anything I can do to help, let me know: Finding pictures, typing up descriptions, spell-checking, etc.
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| 25 Oct 2007, 23:45 |
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Fedor
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| 28 Oct 2007, 08:39 |
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Malvoisin
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| 28 Oct 2007, 09:18 |
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Matress_of_evil
Evil Romulan Overlord of Evil - Now 100% Faster!
Joined: 02 Dec 2004, 01:00 Posts: 7392 Location: Returned to the previous place.
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Fedor, the current version of the game that is available to download is running a little slow because of a glitch that Mike has since corrected - I've tested a fix for the glitch and it will now be part of the next release, which will be soon if you're lucky.
I'm glad to see people returning to the forums. We're determined to make this project work - there have been three previous projects and all have failed. We will not let that happen again. Keepchecking out the forums and keep posting. Community involvedment is what keeps us going. 
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| 28 Oct 2007, 10:34 |
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mstrobel
Chief Software Engineer
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| 29 Oct 2007, 02:58 |
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mstrobel
Chief Software Engineer
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Posted another update... CHANGES SINCE LAST RELEASE:Hopefully eliminated some performance degradation issues with turn processing. A preliminary implementation of the Diplomacy system is available. However, there is no Diplomacy AI, you will never receive diplomatic messages from non-human players, and non-human players will always accept whatever proposals you send them. Also, if you can't seem to exit the diplomacy screen, try clicking on any node in the Overview graph. As usual, this will break any of your existing saved games, so don't even bother trying to load them  .
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| 29 Oct 2007, 03:40 |
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SeaBee-T
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Joined: 17 Oct 2007, 01:00 Posts: 57 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Hello everyone! I've been observing the progress on this game and I must say I totally LOVE it! I have been playing around with the 10-13-2007 release and has encountered no problems so far. I must say, it looks absolutely beautiful, clean, and well-organized. However, in the 10-28-2007 release, I can't even start the game up. Does Vista have anything to do with the game not even starting? Thanks for assisting me in this. Great work on Supremacy! I can't wait till it's done! 
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| 29 Oct 2007, 12:03 |
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