Just out of sheer curioity.

What would everyone here choose as the next trek series after enterprise? It can be anything at all, if you were B&B, how'd you do it?

Personally, I'd drop the episode format for a couple of years. Maybe have a weekly or monthly succession of 'one off' episodes, like the outer limits.

Some examples of cool episodes;

Picard as a junior officer on the Stargazer (played by Shinzon)
An episode on a Warbird, seeing conflict with starfleet from their perspective
An episode set a year after the Dom war
An adventure with Capt Reynolds on the Centaur (just like that ship)

Loads of possibilities.


Anyways, how'd you all do the next show???

i would go on with Captain Riker, on the USS TITAN. Just after Nemesis. More about the situation of the Romulans and the Klingons. This time i want it centred at the war with the Borg versus the Federation. I know it's perhaps a bit

Anyway perhaps when i have had some sleep, i want something else.

I had thoughts on this along time ago, as i bet everyone else has.

Mine would take place where nemisis left off, i dont like going back so it get updated with every series/film.

It would start on Kitomer, the Federation, Klingons and Romulans have signed a allience and vowed to bring the quadrent closer together, once picard was back on the Ent-E he talks to Admiral Janeway and Captain Riker about what a good thing. Riker shows Picard his son for the first time. Nickolas William Riker. and it all seems great, Diana goes via shuttle (not transporter for the script sake :p) for the titan, (which i see as a Soverign class) to the Ent-E, when the science officer, (not data cause hes kinda data/b4 cause hes kinda screwie at the mo lol) announces theve picked up a strange siginal and anomolus readings. Picards asks where and just then Fludic gates open and out pops Borg Bio-Cubes, it seems they have somehow got an allience with 8472, the Rom/Fed/Kling fleet gets attacked from left righ n center. Riker orders his wift n son beamed abord, there a prob with transport and only Diana gets back, the shuttle is then tractored, and fired upon but the Bio-Cubes, this reacts and the shuttel it lost, believed destroied.

The battle goes on for a while till alot of ships are waster, the Ent-E, Titan, Voyager, a few Warbirds (new and old) and some Klingons ships (mostly BoPs) are surounded, and when they think all it lostt, science announces their picking up tacyon reading and a temprol flux opens in fromt fo the E and a Galaxy-X jums in and uses its Phaser cannon to blow about 3 Cubs away, once the ships gain their bearings and join the wing of this new X. the borg retreat from where they came. The dust settles, and the X hails the Ent-E, which the Titan and voyager litens in on, and the captain announces him self as Captain Nickolas Riker of the starship Enterprises.

It seemed that the shuttle was sent foward 20 odd years and the Alpha Quadrent Alience (A.Q.U.A) was at a loss, they were nearly destroied when the X project was announced using technolyg from all races in a hope to save the Federation, but it failsed, and used its new Tmeporal dirve to come back and stop the definitive mark of the invasion, the destruction of her predessior the Enterprise-E.

Thats ore the satrt of a script to a flim, but i think it would be great to see the federation fend off the borg with the help fo this future ship (cause i like the X :p)

Jesus Christ.

No quantity of class A drugs could've given me that idea.

You like?

I could go on a write the whole script to a new film if you want, lol.

sounds like a near copy of the storyline of star trek armada 1

Yuo know it does doesnt it. maybe that game influenced it alot, lol. Wasnt done on purpose i can assure you, the continuing running of it in m head takes bits from all trek/games, and ever some B5.

Yeah i don't like your bio cubes. A bit from B5 and the attack with the White stars on these Earth bio ships?

I really thought he was kidding at first, then when I saw borg bio-cubes I thought the whole post was a blatant p*ss take.

What's interesting is that I'm actually starting to think he was being serious....

I am bveing serious, as you should know i like the Ship battles in Trek. And we all day dream, quite often i jump into the Trek universe and that story line is the begining of the fall of the Federation, all the major races nad even the minor ones have to come togather to overcome a threat that will destroy them, and in the future the Ent-X comes from, they already lost, and that ship was their last hope for survival. I got infulenced by Armada, and B5, but id love to see all these options come togather for a new series. One where humans may actuall lose, rather than us always being guarenteed to come out on top.

Ehm ... Really ??

What about this, u watch the series from the view of a Romulan Commander? In a total new serie, which handles the Federation, Borg and stuff.

#Going over the same stuff witha diffrent viewpoint i think wouldnt work, look what they did with Enterprise and how many times they screwed up the timeline. People would start either going, Hang on that didnt happen that way, or they would go weve seen this all before, cant they think of new ideas.

Id like to see the origin of the Borg, that would be nice,m more os a film thing rather than a series tho. There have ben many theroies to it, the best one i like was a bit from TMP. Voyager 6 went through the black ole and landed on a planet rules by machines, then made its way back slowly. What if those machines were very eairly Borg. And it was Humans that gave them the technolgy to get into space and the knowlage the other races do exsist, that would be really ironic.

it should be something else! I mean another voyages of the starship Voyager . I've seen that enough. But there is one thing i do want to have. that is more details about technology, history and stuff, not only action. I mean in a entertaining way, perhaps we could also do something with the Andorians, really like them in Enterprise, pinky faces.

Its hard to move foward and not do somehting thats laready been done. And about tech and stuff would be kewl. But if it was placed in either Starfleet intelegence, the other side of the Federation. Or maybe set in a staryard buikld ships. The that would not be going around space exploring space so wouldnt be Trek really. Real prob here....

no i'm saying that they could somethimes put more detail in some technology, i know they already do that, but still. But i thougth you would like the idea of a ST series with Romulans on the helm? (A idea i posted earlier on)

Id l;ove a series with based around Romulans, but if they did it during TNG times, i fear they would wreck the timeline liek Enterprise has done. If they took it back a bit, and covered the Romulan - Klingon war then that would be kewl. I remember Spock saying that jsut before the treaty between the two races (and the time the B'rel came about) they had been warring for almost a cnetuary, id love to see that, a series from both sides, Romulan and Klingon.

i think ST shud have a 2/3 year break....And consolidate ideas in that then come back and take over the world! muahahah!

R U crazy??? I want this to go on forever. I mean they just have to bring in new ideas, that are refreshing and better than some ideas we have seen in StarTrek. But really something refreshing like not from the viewpoint of the Federation but of the Romulans would be fascinating, really!

i dont think it would - i believe the audience would be able to relate to a totally romulan crew inc captain + ship

OK, it doesnt look like anyones wrote anything on this post in awhile, so i'll probally never see a reply, but heres what i think about these ideas.

ST has a good idea with his Borg vs Fed/Rom/Klingon alliance story, but i think the bio-cube is alittle much. It would have to be a movie(s), or a mini-series format. It would be interesting to see not only the giant fleet battles, but a story where the whole quadrent is getting it handed to them. It could go on with the alliance attempting to "correct" what will happen (unsuccesfully), come to the brink of losing, and once more sending a ship back in time to succefully prevent the invasion. Something like that could be very cool.

iwulff also has a good idea with a series from a romulan perspective. A good idea (atleast i think so) could deal with the romulans after the Tomed incident. If you dont know what this is, it was an incident involving the Enterprise-B ad the Tomed (Romulan flagship at the time). To make a long story short, it ended in the destruction of te Tomed and some federation outposts, and it stopped a fed vs. rom war that was almost ready to break out, and drove the romulans into their 70 or so year period of isolation. this is something that is referenced in a TNG episode (the episode is the one where the roms re-emerge for this period of isolation), and the whole story is told in a good ST: Lost Era book called [u]Serpents Among the Ruins[/u]. If you like the romuans, iwulff, you'd like this book. anyways the series could pick up after the incident, and deal with wat the romulans did then. just because the romulans isolated themselves to the federation and klingons dosen't mea they didn't do anything. They live in the beta quadrent, they had a whole quadrent to explore/conquer.

Anyways, now that im done rambling, i hope someone accually reads this. let me know what you think.

i really like that, for all we know they had a war(s) with other species! Perhaps i shoudl read it!

Well, the book doesn't go into anything the romulans do in their isolation, only the events leading to it. it does deal mostly with Capt. Hariman, and the Ent-B crew. Nevertheless, i still think it was a good story, it shows how the federation can be just as devious as the either the cardassians or roms(and the best part is they get away with it). Another great book in the Lost Era series is called The Sundered. It deals with the Excelsior while she was commanded by Capt. Sulu, with Checkov as first officer. They are trying to prevent a war between the Tholians, and the Neyel Hegemony (a vast galactic empire who look nothing like humans, but are directly descended from them). It is my favorite ST book, mostly because it deals with the Neyel's rise to power. If you want to read a good book, i'd look into both of these lost era books.

if you want to know more abuot either, just ask.

well if you want to put some more stuff in this thread, then be my guest . I will sure read it! Perhaps even buy the books.

Havent posted in a long time dont worry, ive not abandoned yous lot .

Anyway, i thought of another diffrent take on Trek. Im one of these people that love the Ship battles in trek (as ive said many times befor) and when Rigel said about the Tomed incident, i thought of another one. The Ent-C was destroied protecting a Klingon outpost froma Romulan attack, how about a series in that time line, where the Ent-C went through time and the Klingons lost the outpost and declaired on the Feds (an id presume the Roms too) to the 3 major powers of the quadrent are at war, the Ent-D get launched, the largest and powerfullest vessel of her time. And we follow her over time, with the Feds at war, untill they meet the Ent-C and reset the time line.

After reading that through i think prehaps it shouldnt be ion the Ent-D, thats been done, prehaps another vessle, the Yamato (Enterprises sister ship) or another Experamintal class (which would give a good view of new tech and the like)

Good to hear from you Sonic, really it would be much nicer for us if you would just show up more often.

Anyway i think that these stories we proposed especcialy aboutt his bio borg and this time ****, its just to weird to be a startrek show. There are several points startrek could do:

Use another race the the humans and Federation

Use the Federation but be a ship like the NX? Or now with the beginning of the Federation, because this will probally not make it in the Enterprise series.

Or go to the future after the romulus/remus incident.

Or just a new idea, but what. We already have seen major battles and we could have them once in a while but the story has to be intelligent and good written, no more stupid "empty" episodes, that are to make the number 32 of a season full. We need a exiting storyline still with things that make it startrek.


But that are my thougth about it.

heres an idea for a "new series" i just thought up. an animated series. not necessairly a new series, but with a (good) animated format you could do different small storylines with already existing crews. You could do something on the tomed incident, and the Neyel i mentioned earlier. you could show the series of events that leads to the ENT-C being destroyed by the roms. You could do something with TOS characters set inthe time after the last episode, but b4 the first movie. Theses a good number of novels i've read that would make a good animated mini series. Thesea short series that followed the ENt-E during the Dominion war, these a series that follows Ent-E after the war (titled ATime to be Born, and a Time to Die), and another good series of books following DS9 after the war (DS9: Avatar 1 & 2). Theses also hundreds of other original ideas out there, but if they were done in an animated format, it could cut production costs by a wholeh ell of alot. Wouldnt have to pay for the original actors, wouldnt have to pay for sets (altough finding good voice actors could be a prob if some of the original crews didnt want to do it.

Finally, while I wholeheratly agree with ST about loving the big fleet battles (which is something that even DS9 didnt do THAT well), I also agree with iwullf, in the fact thst it cant be mindless battles without good storyline behind it.

iwullf, if you want to know more about those books, PM me, and just tell me which one you want to know about.

By the way, I dont care what anyone says about Enterprise, i think its a good show. They may have "messed" with the time line a bit, (and correct me if im wrong, but i dont think too much has been actully been done to show whats happened in this time period, so if not much is known how can someone say theyve messed up the timeline, they seem to be writing it. They are doing their best to follow the broad view of the timeline in this period, and adding stories alog the way) It started out rough, but its getting better. The storyline about the augments was good, and this new one about the duplicity inthe Vulcan High Command looks like it will be interesting.

By the way, going back to my above post about the animated series, a short series about he earth-rom war would be so cool.

Why cant i work for Paramount?? Why cant I write these shows, or atleast be a consultant, i proboally know more about the trek universe than most of the people writing the shows.

Oh well...

Personally, I just want to carry on with ds9 forever, with it's timeline moving at the same rate as ours.

Since a change is often good I'd accept a 24th century show on a different ship, not a new, childish and immature super ship either. An old excelsior or miranda would be nice for a change. Have them work along a federation border, regularly visiting earth, as well as a number of starbases, (with good recurring characters as admirals etc). I'd like to see trips to the lunar and martian colonies, as well as a more detailed look at the federation's core worlds and infrastructure. DS9 could be fetured, along with starbase 375 and the odd meeting ith the enterprise etc. The ship could operate along gorn space, giving them chance to develop, with a detailed look at the tholians and tzenkethi. The main thing is that they're not flying around in a 'cool' new ship, instead an old, slightly obsolete ship that is in genuine danger.

More importantly than all that is obviously a good cast of characters. Without that the show would be lame either way.

While it would be cool to follow a Promethius class ship around, you have a good point for not wanting this. Unless there was a new powerful threat, thar ship would kick the crap out of just about anything, hands down.

I think if you were to feature an older ship i think a excelsior or ambasidor class would be good choices.

you also have good ideas with wanting to see a more detailed look at the inside of the federation, and wanting to bring back some of these minor races that seemed to vanish after TOS. tzenkethi, gorn, orions, and definatly the tholians. they may not be the strongest force out there, but theyve go a whole freakin empire. they should be featured more.

I think an awsome story line would to enter the other star trek... You know where Kira was evil, the klingons rule, and the fedration is in a million pieces. This series could take place after Kira died, and Worfs surrender. The basis of the show could be about being the underdogs in a futile attempt to restore the federation that spock created after his meeting with the good Kirk. This series could do almost anything, break any rules, and do everything that has been done in other eppisodes, but do the exact opposite. I think this would be and awsome series that would take star trek to a whole new level...

Thoughts???