GASP


HUUUUUUUUUUUUGE uber post


score 1, for matress of evil

Mike's going one step further - he's going to include a file checker to ensure updates are kept as small as possible - the game will only need to download the updated files then. But this update won't be coming for a looong while yet i'm afraid. He might include a simple game version checker though as you said. You'll just have to watch this space and see what he does.

*Edit - I hope I didn't frighten you too much with the uber post, jmcmonw, but if you look through these forums, you'll find i've done plenty of them. ( ) There's tons of info in the uberpost that you might want to read though, so try to read it in small chunks instead of one go.

u under estamate me.

i read the lord of the rings series in 6 hours no break.
(i had a 12 pack to help keep me foucused)

Wow, thanks for answering all of my questions, looking at my suggestions, and pointing me to links and whatnot mattress, you were also very prompt. I in no way want to compete in any uber posting :p, although I have made two big posts recently, only b/c I have had little time of late (stupid grad school). But now I am done with that mostly (wahoo, done with grad school!) and will attempt to post more regularly and see if I can't find something to do. Anyway, I am going to attacth the error text file, which occurred when I tried to load a game, whether it was the autosave or regular save game. This happened on the latest version (5-18-08 version).

Mattress, I also see your point on the Vorta, but maybe the Vorta should always start near the Dominion, so you don't get someone taking them down from the inside when the Vorta are on the other side of the galaxy? Also, happy belated b-day, I saw the posts the other day.

Oops, I missed that point out. They will be starting in close proximity to the Dominion.



Thanks, yours wasn't the only belated one I had today so don't worry about it.

Your attached file is broken, Stegrex - but it's NOT your fault. Looks like there's a forum error. Judging by the file size though, you've got the same problem as everyone else. I'm encountering it too. I've notified Mike that there's a problem on MSN but it was an offline message so he might not have got it yet. Next time I see him online i'll send him the error reports.

Hmmm...well, this is not an uber post, just a copy and paste of my error file. Again this comes from SupremacyTest20080518, error.txt file after attempting to load a saved game, including the autosave.


Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation.

at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, SignatureStruct& sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, Signature sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.Invoke(Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture, Boolean skipVisibilityChecks)
at System.Delegate.DynamicInvokeImpl(Object[] args)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter, Delegate catchHandler)

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Cannot add an entity with a key that is already in use.

at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity, Boolean asModified)
at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity)
at Supremacy.Data.SupremacyDatabase.DoFindObjectStringInternal(String key, String culture, Boolean createLocalized) in C:\Users\Mike Strobel\Workspace\supremacy\Mainline\SupremacyCore\Data\SupremacyDatabase.cs:line 315

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Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation.

at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, SignatureStruct& sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, Signature sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.Invoke(Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture, Boolean skipVisibilityChecks)
at System.Delegate.DynamicInvokeImpl(Object[] args)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter, Delegate catchHandler)

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Cannot add an entity with a key that is already in use.

at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity, Boolean asModified)
at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity)
at Supremacy.Data.SupremacyDatabase.DoFindObjectStringInternal(String key, String culture, Boolean createLocalized) in C:\Users\Mike Strobel\Workspace\supremacy\Mainline\SupremacyCore\Data\SupremacyDatabase.cs:line 315

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Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation.

at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, SignatureStruct& sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, Signature sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.Invoke(Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture, Boolean skipVisibilityChecks)
at System.Delegate.DynamicInvokeImpl(Object[] args)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter, Delegate catchHandler)

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Cannot add an entity with a key that is already in use.

at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity, Boolean asModified)
at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity)
at Supremacy.Data.SupremacyDatabase.DoFindObjectStringInternal(String key, String culture, Boolean createLocalized) in C:\Users\Mike Strobel\Workspace\supremacy\Mainline\SupremacyCore\Data\SupremacyDatabase.cs:line 315

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Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation.

at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, SignatureStruct& sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, Signature sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.Invoke(Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture, Boolean skipVisibilityChecks)
at System.Delegate.DynamicInvokeImpl(Object[] args)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter, Delegate catchHandler)

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Cannot add an entity with a key that is already in use.

at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity, Boolean asModified)
at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity)
at Supremacy.Data.SupremacyDatabase.DoFindObjectStringInternal(String key, String culture, Boolean createLocalized) in C:\Users\Mike Strobel\Workspace\supremacy\Mainline\SupremacyCore\Data\SupremacyDatabase.cs:line 315

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Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation.

at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, SignatureStruct& sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, Signature sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.Invoke(Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture, Boolean skipVisibilityChecks)
at System.Delegate.DynamicInvokeImpl(Object[] args)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter, Delegate catchHandler)

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Cannot add an entity with a key that is already in use.

at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity, Boolean asModified)
at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity)
at Supremacy.Data.SupremacyDatabase.DoFindObjectStringInternal(String key, String culture, Boolean createLocalized) in C:\Users\Mike Strobel\Workspace\supremacy\Mainline\SupremacyCore\Data\SupremacyDatabase.cs:line 315

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Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation.

at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, SignatureStruct& sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, Signature sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.Invoke(Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture, Boolean skipVisibilityChecks)
at System.Delegate.DynamicInvokeImpl(Object[] args)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter, Delegate catchHandler)

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Cannot add an entity with a key that is already in use.

at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity, Boolean asModified)
at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity)
at Supremacy.Data.SupremacyDatabase.DoFindObjectStringInternal(String key, String culture, Boolean createLocalized) in C:\Users\Mike Strobel\Workspace\supremacy\Mainline\SupremacyCore\Data\SupremacyDatabase.cs:line 315

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Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation.

at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, SignatureStruct& sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, Signature sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.Invoke(Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture, Boolean skipVisibilityChecks)
at System.Delegate.DynamicInvokeImpl(Object[] args)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter, Delegate catchHandler)

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Cannot add an entity with a key that is already in use.

at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity, Boolean asModified)
at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity)
at Supremacy.Data.SupremacyDatabase.DoFindObjectStringInternal(String key, String culture, Boolean createLocalized) in C:\Users\Mike Strobel\Workspace\supremacy\Mainline\SupremacyCore\Data\SupremacyDatabase.cs:line 315

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Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation.

at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, SignatureStruct& sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, Signature sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.Invoke(Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture, Boolean skipVisibilityChecks)
at System.Delegate.DynamicInvokeImpl(Object[] args)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter, Delegate catchHandler)

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Cannot add an entity with a key that is already in use.

at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity, Boolean asModified)
at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity)
at Supremacy.Data.SupremacyDatabase.DoFindObjectStringInternal(String key, String culture, Boolean createLocalized) in C:\Users\Mike Strobel\Workspace\supremacy\Mainline\SupremacyCore\Data\SupremacyDatabase.cs:line 315

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Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation.

at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, SignatureStruct& sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, Signature sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.Invoke(Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture, Boolean skipVisibilityChecks)
at System.Delegate.DynamicInvokeImpl(Object[] args)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter, Delegate catchHandler)

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Cannot add an entity with a key that is already in use.

at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity, Boolean asModified)
at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity)
at Supremacy.Data.SupremacyDatabase.DoFindObjectStringInternal(String key, String culture, Boolean createLocalized) in C:\Users\Mike Strobel\Workspace\supremacy\Mainline\SupremacyCore\Data\SupremacyDatabase.cs:line 315

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Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation.

at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, SignatureStruct& sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, Signature sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.Invoke(Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture, Boolean skipVisibilityChecks)
at System.Delegate.DynamicInvokeImpl(Object[] args)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter, Delegate catchHandler)

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Cannot add an entity with a key that is already in use.

at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity, Boolean asModified)
at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity)
at Supremacy.Data.SupremacyDatabase.DoFindObjectStringInternal(String key, String culture, Boolean createLocalized) in C:\Users\Mike Strobel\Workspace\supremacy\Mainline\SupremacyCore\Data\SupremacyDatabase.cs:line 315

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Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation.

at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, SignatureStruct& sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, Signature sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.Invoke(Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture, Boolean skipVisibilityChecks)
at System.Delegate.DynamicInvokeImpl(Object[] args)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter, Delegate catchHandler)

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Cannot add an entity with a key that is already in use.

at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity, Boolean asModified)
at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity)
at Supremacy.Data.SupremacyDatabase.DoFindObjectStringInternal(String key, String culture, Boolean createLocalized) in C:\Users\Mike Strobel\Workspace\supremacy\Mainline\SupremacyCore\Data\SupremacyDatabase.cs:line 315

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Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation.

at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, SignatureStruct& sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, Signature sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.Invoke(Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture, Boolean skipVisibilityChecks)
at System.Delegate.DynamicInvokeImpl(Object[] args)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter, Delegate catchHandler)

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Cannot add an entity with a key that is already in use.

at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity, Boolean asModified)
at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity)
at Supremacy.Data.SupremacyDatabase.DoFindObjectStringInternal(String key, String culture, Boolean createLocalized) in C:\Users\Mike Strobel\Workspace\supremacy\Mainline\SupremacyCore\Data\SupremacyDatabase.cs:line 315

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Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation.

at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, SignatureStruct& sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, Signature sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.Invoke(Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture, Boolean skipVisibilityChecks)
at System.Delegate.DynamicInvokeImpl(Object[] args)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter, Delegate catchHandler)

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Cannot add an entity with a key that is already in use.

at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity, Boolean asModified)
at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity)
at Supremacy.Data.SupremacyDatabase.DoFindObjectStringInternal(String key, String culture, Boolean createLocalized) in C:\Users\Mike Strobel\Workspace\supremacy\Mainline\SupremacyCore\Data\SupremacyDatabase.cs:line 315

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Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation.

at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, SignatureStruct& sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, Signature sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.Invoke(Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture, Boolean skipVisibilityChecks)
at System.Delegate.DynamicInvokeImpl(Object[] args)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter, Delegate catchHandler)

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Cannot add an entity with a key that is already in use.

at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity, Boolean asModified)
at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity)
at Supremacy.Data.SupremacyDatabase.DoFindObjectStringInternal(String key, String culture, Boolean createLocalized) in C:\Users\Mike Strobel\Workspace\supremacy\Mainline\SupremacyCore\Data\SupremacyDatabase.cs:line 315

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Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation.

at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, SignatureStruct& sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, Signature sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.Invoke(Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture, Boolean skipVisibilityChecks)
at System.Delegate.DynamicInvokeImpl(Object[] args)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter, Delegate catchHandler)

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Cannot add an entity with a key that is already in use.

at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity, Boolean asModified)
at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity)
at Supremacy.Data.SupremacyDatabase.DoFindObjectStringInternal(String key, String culture, Boolean createLocalized) in C:\Users\Mike Strobel\Workspace\supremacy\Mainline\SupremacyCore\Data\SupremacyDatabase.cs:line 315

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Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation.

at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, SignatureStruct& sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, Signature sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.Invoke(Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture, Boolean skipVisibilityChecks)
at System.Delegate.DynamicInvokeImpl(Object[] args)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter, Delegate catchHandler)

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Cannot add an entity with a key that is already in use.

at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity, Boolean asModified)
at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity)
at Supremacy.Data.SupremacyDatabase.DoFindObjectStringInternal(String key, String culture, Boolean createLocalized) in C:\Users\Mike Strobel\Workspace\supremacy\Mainline\SupremacyCore\Data\SupremacyDatabase.cs:line 315

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Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation.

at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, SignatureStruct& sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, Signature sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.Invoke(Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture, Boolean skipVisibilityChecks)
at System.Delegate.DynamicInvokeImpl(Object[] args)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter, Delegate catchHandler)

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Cannot add an entity with a key that is already in use.

at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity, Boolean asModified)
at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity)
at Supremacy.Data.SupremacyDatabase.DoFindObjectStringInternal(String key, String culture, Boolean createLocalized) in C:\Users\Mike Strobel\Workspace\supremacy\Mainline\SupremacyCore\Data\SupremacyDatabase.cs:line 315

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Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation.

at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, SignatureStruct& sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, Signature sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.Invoke(Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture, Boolean skipVisibilityChecks)
at System.Delegate.DynamicInvokeImpl(Object[] args)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter, Delegate catchHandler)

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Cannot add an entity with a key that is already in use.

at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity, Boolean asModified)
at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity)
at Supremacy.Data.SupremacyDatabase.DoFindObjectStringInternal(String key, String culture, Boolean createLocalized) in C:\Users\Mike Strobel\Workspace\supremacy\Mainline\SupremacyCore\Data\SupremacyDatabase.cs:line 315

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Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation.

at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, SignatureStruct& sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, Signature sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.Invoke(Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture, Boolean skipVisibilityChecks)
at System.Delegate.DynamicInvokeImpl(Object[] args)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter, Delegate catchHandler)

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Cannot add an entity with a key that is already in use.

at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity, Boolean asModified)
at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity)
at Supremacy.Data.SupremacyDatabase.DoFindObjectStringInternal(String key, String culture, Boolean createLocalized) in C:\Users\Mike Strobel\Workspace\supremacy\Mainline\SupremacyCore\Data\SupremacyDatabase.cs:line 315

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Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation.

at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, SignatureStruct& sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, Signature sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.Invoke(Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture, Boolean skipVisibilityChecks)
at System.Delegate.DynamicInvokeImpl(Object[] args)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter, Delegate catchHandler)

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Cannot add an entity with a key that is already in use.

at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity, Boolean asModified)
at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity)
at Supremacy.Data.SupremacyDatabase.DoFindObjectStringInternal(String key, String culture, Boolean createLocalized) in C:\Users\Mike Strobel\Workspace\supremacy\Mainline\SupremacyCore\Data\SupremacyDatabase.cs:line 315

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Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation.

at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, SignatureStruct& sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, Signature sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.Invoke(Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture, Boolean skipVisibilityChecks)
at System.Delegate.DynamicInvokeImpl(Object[] args)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter, Delegate catchHandler)

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Cannot add an entity with a key that is already in use.

at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity, Boolean asModified)
at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity)
at Supremacy.Data.SupremacyDatabase.DoFindObjectStringInternal(String key, String culture, Boolean createLocalized) in C:\Users\Mike Strobel\Workspace\supremacy\Mainline\SupremacyCore\Data\SupremacyDatabase.cs:line 315

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Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation.

at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, SignatureStruct& sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, Signature sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.Invoke(Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture, Boolean skipVisibilityChecks)
at System.Delegate.DynamicInvokeImpl(Object[] args)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter, Delegate catchHandler)

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Cannot add an entity with a key that is already in use.

at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity, Boolean asModified)
at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity)
at Supremacy.Data.SupremacyDatabase.DoFindObjectStringInternal(String key, String culture, Boolean createLocalized) in C:\Users\Mike Strobel\Workspace\supremacy\Mainline\SupremacyCore\Data\SupremacyDatabase.cs:line 315

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Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation.

at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, SignatureStruct& sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, Signature sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.Invoke(Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture, Boolean skipVisibilityChecks)
at System.Delegate.DynamicInvokeImpl(Object[] args)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter, Delegate catchHandler)

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Cannot add an entity with a key that is already in use.

at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity, Boolean asModified)
at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity)
at Supremacy.Data.SupremacyDatabase.DoFindObjectStringInternal(String key, String culture, Boolean createLocalized) in C:\Users\Mike Strobel\Workspace\supremacy\Mainline\SupremacyCore\Data\SupremacyDatabase.cs:line 315

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Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation.

at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, SignatureStruct& sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, Signature sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.Invoke(Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture, Boolean skipVisibilityChecks)
at System.Delegate.DynamicInvokeImpl(Object[] args)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter, Delegate catchHandler)

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Cannot add an entity with a key that is already in use.

at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity, Boolean asModified)
at System.Data.Linq.Table`1.Attach(TEntity entity)
at Supremacy.Data.SupremacyDatabase.DoFindObjectStringInternal(String key, String culture, Boolean createLocalized) in C:\Users\Mike Strobel\Workspace\supremacy\Mainline\SupremacyCore\Data\SupremacyDatabase.cs:line 315

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Some huge posts there guys also alot of good ideas on what else will be in the game, its good to know all the good work being done on this project by Mike , Mattress among others. I av only been a member for a short time and am enjoying this forum and playing supremacy.

As with a prevoius post i made concerning bugs in the game and it seems we all aving similar problems,although game turns process quickly enough i cant go further than 30-40 turns in this latest release,i av deleted prevoius release so i only av new release installed but still get problems as mentioned here and previously ....Hope mike gets this sorted out quickly and Mattress of Evil belated birhday greets and keep up the good work you are doing..... Bye for now

Attraia's saying that he can't go beyond the 30's-40's is weird, I've managed over 100.

Perhaps CPU power is a factor in this? Mines 2.9GHz (non Overclocked)

Oh and a quick question; will this be available on Vista as well? I'm upgrading soon (actually building a whole new computer) I haven't heard of anyone here using it, but then again, few people are willing to read 40 or so pages ^_^

huh i haven't been able to load saves eather

Got this error message when attempting to retire:

Attempted to access an unloaded AppDomain.



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Somethingfake, the unloaded appdomain error is a known glitch that's been randomly occuring since the February update. The game is basically trying to load *something* while it closes, resulting in the error. Mike knows about it.

There's no need to worry about Vista - it's 100% compatible with Vista. (Although many of the bugs will be the same) Mike has been programming the game with many technologies that are actually originally designed for Vista, and have since been ported back to XP. That's why the game looks so clean and shiny, for instance. The game is based on surprisingly advanced technology, which I think is fitting for a Trek game.

Somethingfake, Hi, to let you know about not getting past 30-40 turns, i dont no why it hangs there but up to that point game plays pretty good, on the feb pre-release i got to 400 turns and played ok slowed abit for turn processing as you would expect for turn 400.....

I am running the game on my Laptop :-

SPEC:- Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5450 @ 1.66ghz
2046mb Ram
32 bit operating system
Vista Home Premium

These spec are fine with feb release so works ok on vista as Mattress as mentioned,so we need do identify why the may release update doesnt work as well.....will keep on playing see if i can get any further.......

@stegrex: Thanks a ton for taking the time to post such extensive feedback--I'll go back and read through it very shortly.

To those experiencing hanging during turn processing, would you please check for a ServerError.txt file immediately after the next time it happens? Check the timestamp on the file to see if it recorded anything about the hang, and if so, please post it. Thanks!

Mike

Oh, I was just summarising the post in a PM for you Mike.

I just got a hang on "Resolving Combat". I didn't manage to get the server.txt file though. Is combat in the game?

I also get that hang in resolving combat but havent noticed the other error you mentioned mike...will check thru see what i can find in relation to this error...

Just tried to play a game so i decided to try a small map then clicked ok and it threw up to error files one being Servor error,the other an exception error...will try and upload attacments of these if that dont work will paste them........

I've passed your kind words on to the composer .

Scanner strength is implemented in the game, and it should show up in the details for any of the ships and planetary scanners. If it doesn't, then it's a bug. As the matress[sic] said, scan strength will play a greater role in Supremacy than it did in BotF. For instance, scan strength counters cloak strength, so the difference between one fleet's cloaking ability and another's scanning ability will determine how (in)visible the cloaked fleet is to the other fleet. You might a fleet of unknown composition and/or unknown origin, or you might detect nothing at all.

Actually, I can't think of any elegant or accurate way of doing this, precisely because each ship has a unique range. However, when grouped together as a fleet, the fleet is restricted the shortest range of any of the ships in the fleet, and that is the range that will be displayed.

This may be implemented as a game option, selectable at the start of the game. However, by default, there will be no auto-upgrades.

I'll look into it.

Workers are automatically assigned to Food production if (and only if) the system's population is expected to exceed its food production in the near future. Other labor is left in the pool to be assigned by the player. When the colony management AI is completed, players will have the option of deferring production and labor allocation to the AI. This will have to be enabled manually by the player for each colony.

Yes.

Not a map overlay like in BotF, but I'd like to add some sort of "Colony" panel to the main screen to enable the player to keep an eye on production and important colony stats without diving down into the System screen.

Not a bad suggestion. Let me think about it .

I agree, but I haven't decided exactly how to do that yet. The diplomacy system is in the middle of an overhaul, so there's little point in thinking about that until it's done.

I thought I had replaced "Empty" with "Trade Goods". I may have forgotten. However, credits *are* being generated by unused industry output... at least they should be--now I think I'll go back and check.

The Vorta are not a civilization (minor race) in the game, or at least they shouldn't be. Someone else was responsible for populating the civilization database, so they may have been made into a civilization by mistake.

So noted. I'll remove them. I'm open to suggestions for replacing them, if you think we should add another celestial body in its place.


Agreed, and it's a planned feature.

The research matrix displays all future research. The encyclopedia displays only known races and buildable technologies. I suppose I could add a checkbox to toggle the display of unattained technologies as well. I could display them in gray to distinguish them from the researched items.

The original BotF2 specification does provide for a mechanism to dump extra credits into production to hurry it along, with diminishing returns. I do plan to implement such a feature, but I have not yet decided on an algorithm.

Actually, all buildable items are allowed to have a maintenance cost in credits, but I believe it's only ever specified for ships. If this cost isn't displayed anywhere, then that's a bug.

That's exactly what I have planned, actually .

Again, not a bad suggestion. I'll think about it .

Minor races in Supremacy will have most of the same capabilities as empires. The expansion capabilities of the minor races are specified for each race, and the most aggressive may form little empires of their own . However, none of this will occur in the game until the AI has been written.

Intel won't be implemented for a while, but the intel reports will include some details along those lines.

Something like that, yes .

Factors like border tension and past/present trade relations will certainly factor into the diplomacy AI's decisions.

I'd like to implement this as well. It's currently on my "would be nice" feature list. It's likely to be implemented, but probaby some time after the rest of the diplomacy system.

Definitely a nightmare to implement. It's hard enough coordinating colony-level production to satisfy the overall needs of the empire while still satisfying local needs.

See my response to the question of scan strength above...

Sounds like a good idea to me.

New bonuses may be added later. I'm certainly open to suggestions. Someone has to write up the text for them and create images. Some such bonuses might not be "bonuses" as such, but might instead be implemented as random events.

Since events aren't hard-coded, but are moddable, this isn't really practical.

I agree, and I'd like to have a dynamic soundtrack, but we need more music first. And the AI will have to be further along so that we have a means of recognizing the current state of affairs.

D'oh. Thanks, I'll look into it.

Yes, that's due to what was in retrospect a poor design decision to fix a problem with localized text not saving properly in the editor. I'll try to fix that this weekend.

Whoops .

Thanks, that's a new bug to add to my list .

What kind of slowdown are you experiencing? A lagging UI, longer turn processing, both, or something different?

Known issue.

That's a new one on me. Maybe it's a floating point rounding error. This bug may only manifest itself on certain processors--I'll have to look into it.

Hi Mike i hope those Error reports help, i will keep playing and see what else happens and just to let you know your doing a great job and its a brilliant game and look forward to when its completed, wish i could help but i m only good at playing fordotten how to use computer properly so i just praise you guys working on Supremacy...

It may of been mentioned, I'm not sure, but on the Officer external and internal affairs screen, if you try to assign 100% to one bar (say for instance 100% for the Officers) it only goes to 99% despite the other two bars being empty.

Got another erro report ...Game stopped at turn 36 so i closed it down and another error message appeared,didnt say much just said:........

(Attempted to access an unloaded domain) and that was all.

has ne 1 noticed that on the reacerch screen it adds up to more then 100 %?

17% for each section

The Vorta are in Dafedz's database, Mike and always have been. Do you really want me to remove them?

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I've told you about this one quite a few times Mike!

...Hello? Mike? Are you listening? Hello!

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This is a new one on me. I'll pass it on to Mike if he's listening.

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This is a know problem, Attraia. If was first noted in the February 2008 update.

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Yes, this is a known problem. It first appeared in the most recent update.

I was thinking something along the lines of literally minimum and maximum ship range based on your best and worst ship classes, in regards to their range. You would still need to figure out individual ship ranges by clicking on ships. This wouldn't really display all the information the player may want (like a gradation of ranges, which would be too much information), but would give some useful info on current ranges. Maybe even a third max range display based on the ship with the current maximum range + fuel reserve range (or if another ship has a higher fuel capacity, the ship with the most extreme range if you count fuel reserves). Not a priority though, I like having ships with different ranges, so a BOTF style short/medium/max display is not key.













Don't know exactly what the deal is on the Vorta, I don't really mind them being in the game as a minor, but maybe there is some confusion as to what role they may actually have in the future?




Got one wouldn't you know, Microquasar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microquasar. These are in our galaxy and are only a few solar masses (rather than a few million like a regular Quasar). I imagine it would be a simple matter of renaming the anomoly.




Hmm...thats too bad. Was also going to suggest some sort of weapon that could blow up a star by making it go nova, or maybe have a spy plant a bomb, but my imagination does wander too far sometimes. Probably for the best just to ignore that all right now.




Both, but more on the turns taking longer I think. Haven't got to turn 60 since before the last update, so don't know if current version has similar issues.


I would like to reiterate that I want to stay out of any uber-posting competition/challenge . If I could think of way to be more brief I would be, sorry for all the quotes.

I have published another update. In addition to numerous bug fixes, Supremacy is now capable of automatically updating itself. If the automatic updates work as intended, this is the last time you will have to download the entire game at once. Future updates should be incremental, and the game should download only the files that have changed. Cross your fingers and hope it works .

Cool, i'll have to give it a try

Regards Wolfe

The update for me worked fine and the 99% problem with the officers internal/external affairs bars has been fixed, but a new glitch/bug/whatever has appeared on the same screen, the lock box next to the bars don't stop you from adjusting the the percentage of the officers internal/external affairs bars. I'll update if I spot anything else.

*update 1* The loading of saved games appears fixed now, I've loaded a saved game several times now (new saves after updating the game)

Sometimes if you double click too quickly to cancel an upcoming order (not currently being built) give you an exception. *end update 1*

*update 2* The lock box does not work for all slider bars *end update 2*

*update 3* Just got a hang when the game tried processing a turn *end update 3*

It looks like you were right Mike - I managed to keep my game updates by just copying the contents of the data folder. I only had some minor problems with the Lissepian Trade Hub, and that was probably coz I forgot to name it!

I just tried to load a game, and after 41 seconds (Which was surprisingly long for a small map, few minors, sparse planets, sparse stars game) Supremacy told me there was a 3.7mb update to download.

The game then told me it needed to restart - but when I reloaded it, I was told an instance of the game was already running.

I reloaded the game and it ran fine - but then I noticed a few odd things. It was as though my updates were missing. So I loaded up the editor and lo and behold all my updates were gone!

Luckily I still had the backups like you suggested, so I put them back in again, and reloaded the game - and this time the game didn't ask me to update.

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I've noticed that the game is running MUCH more smoothly since this update Mike - the glitchy menu is now working almost perfectly, (It flashes once and then appears smoothly instead of flashing several times then slowly fading in over several seconds) and the animations are running faster.

Game Problems
I've also noticed the same problems with the Intel screen that Somethingfake posted about - in fact I can't move any of my people to the other bars. If I click on the increase or decrease buttons, people are removed/added regardless of whether the bar is locked or not - but it still shows as 100%. People that are removed are also not added to the other two sliders.

When you member a minor race, their special structure does NOT show as buildable. Do the minor race structures have to be listed as Home system, non-native system, or both, Mike?

I am able to build Communications Grids in native systems - it looks like the non-native system option in the editor is not working correctly. This *may* be something to do with the minor race special structure problem above.

Editor Problems
It is impossible to delete objects in the editor. The delete button in the clipboard - in fact ALL buttons in the clip board - are greyed out. Selecting something and pressing delete doesn't work either.

When you create a new building, any info that you put in the building description and name fields will NOT save. As soon as you close the building in the editor, it will show as blank, but the building will still be there - but as a blank entry at the top of the list because there is nothing in the name field. The ONLY way to enter information in the name and description fields AND for the editor to then save this information is if you save and reload the editor. This problem does NOT apply to any of the other building information however, such as energy cost, build restrictions etc. These WILL be saved when you first close the the building entry.

Ideas
When you research a new tech and it grants you access to a new structure, would it be possible to show a small picture of that structure as well as/instead of the name of that structure, just like you see in the research screen? Clicking on the icon could then load a popup with info on that structure or take you to the research screen. Currently, researching techs is coming up with long lists of newly-opened structures that just doesn't look right. Small icons might work better, especially once people start to recognise what structures the images represent.

About the locks and the sliders:

The lock graphics are backwards:
If the graphic looks locked it is actually unlocked and vice versa.

Also even if it is locked, when you click on the slider buttons, the bar moves, but the resources are not reallocated unless you unlock it and click the button or the bar again.

If this sounds confusing, just mess around with the sliders in the game, you'll understand then.

for some reason i can't get past turn 22

can ne 1 explain this?

Have you downloaded todays update? It's really strange that you're still encountering errors like this as the game seems to be much more stable with this update.

Let us know about any error messages etc that you recieve, and if you have installed the latest update, please post your error.txt files as the crash may be due to a completely different reason now. I just managed to play a game to turn 68 so there's nothing wrong on my end...

i know...


i dint even get a error mesg, it just well stoped. it says resolving combat and i let it sit for 5 minutes, and alt f4 my way out. 1st alt f4 got rid of resolvig combat but i couldnot do any thing. 2nd quit game. and error log is empty.

i think it has something to do with there being no combat ingame, it sounds like a load loop. (EX: AI encounters fleet, wants combat, combat unavalibe, return to start)

but the thing is it doesnt occur to evry one, so cant be file loop. the same thing happend in last update, and the one before that.

i have all require ments