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Kenneth_of_Borg
Ship Engineer
Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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Is it just me or is SharePoint not working? 
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| 17 Jul 2008, 19:26 |
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Matress_of_evil
Evil Romulan Overlord of Evil - Now 100% Faster!
Joined: 02 Dec 2004, 01:00 Posts: 7392 Location: Returned to the previous place.
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Nope, it's not working for me either Kenneth. I wouldn't worry about it though, Sharepoint is always randomly dissappearing for a few hours or days but it always comes back. And even if we lost it, we've got a good chunk saved on our computers around the world, so it wouldn't be a total loss...
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| 17 Jul 2008, 20:41 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
Ship Engineer
Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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finally back 
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| 21 Jul 2008, 18:55 |
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mstrobel
Chief Software Engineer
Joined: 11 Aug 2005, 01:00 Posts: 2688
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_________________ Lead Developer of Star Trek: Supremacy 253,658 lines of code and counting...
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| 22 Jul 2008, 05:23 |
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cdrwolfe
Combat Engineer
Joined: 18 Jul 2005, 01:00 Posts: 1001
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How moronic of them......
Anyway we need to begin to account for what we lost, what we have stored on each of our indivdual computers and what needs replacing / redoing again.
I hope we had the sense to have backups on our local computers????
I certainly hope i have lol, i'll have a look for all my sound recordings which i hope are not lost.
Regards Wolfe
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| 22 Jul 2008, 12:33 |
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iwulff
Fleet Admiral
Joined: 18 Sep 2004, 01:00 Posts: 884 Location: Germany
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Ye and we need to make sure this never happens again. So we should make regular sharepoint backups, once a week and after big updates. Is this possible with sharepoint?
_________________ "Logic is the beginning of wisdom; not the end." -- Spock (Star Trek VI)
Q: The trial never ended. We never reached a verdict. But now we have. You're guilty. Picard: Guilty of what? Q:Of being inferior.
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| 22 Jul 2008, 12:54 |
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cdrwolfe
Combat Engineer
Joined: 18 Jul 2005, 01:00 Posts: 1001
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I just can not conceive how sharepoint could have allowed this to happen, how could the backup have been corrupted aswell, i mean surely they both weren't on the same server. That goes completely against the point of redundancy and having a backup altogether. Blehhh, just one of those things, but i bet Kenneth is having a mini stroke about now  Regards Wolfe
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| 22 Jul 2008, 13:17 |
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Zeleni
Aesthetics Surgeon
Joined: 24 Oct 2006, 01:00 Posts: 1350 Location: Croatia
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Pity.
_________________ Carpe Diem
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| 22 Jul 2008, 13:25 |
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mstrobel
Chief Software Engineer
Joined: 11 Aug 2005, 01:00 Posts: 2688
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The backups were likely DLT tapes, and corruption is hardly uncommon. SharePoint is just a software package, so it's not to blame. I'm disappointed that the hosting company doesn't keep at least 30, 60, and 90-day backups.
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| 22 Jul 2008, 14:39 |
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cdrwolfe
Combat Engineer
Joined: 18 Jul 2005, 01:00 Posts: 1001
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Which brings up one point of i hope everyones code is backed up on some hardcopy somewhere.
Regards Wolfe
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| 22 Jul 2008, 15:06 |
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Matress_of_evil
Evil Romulan Overlord of Evil - Now 100% Faster!
Joined: 02 Dec 2004, 01:00 Posts: 7392 Location: Returned to the previous place.
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Well i've got backups of all the new structure images for Supremacy. I've also still got ZDarby's models.
I've also got a ton of images of models, but they're from absolute months ago and most of the models probably don't exist anymore - even if sharepoint hadn't died.
By the way, will we need to reregister?
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| 22 Jul 2008, 23:56 |
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cdrwolfe
Combat Engineer
Joined: 18 Jul 2005, 01:00 Posts: 1001
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Whats the skinny on the vocal sounds? please tell me someone has backups? i managed to get a few over the varying species but not near enough of them. Also i think i have my Dominion ones somewhere.
Regards Wolfe
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| 22 Jul 2008, 23:59 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
Ship Engineer
Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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I think I have most of the vocals and some of the music. It will all take time to load. First I need to stop crying and recover from the lost blood. (I cut my wrists when I saw the damage.) I am also doing an IS build for some medical software at work - along with my usual work load. SharePoint is a big black hole and the gravity is slowing time. 
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| 23 Jul 2008, 04:06 |
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Matress_of_evil
Evil Romulan Overlord of Evil - Now 100% Faster!
Joined: 02 Dec 2004, 01:00 Posts: 7392 Location: Returned to the previous place.
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I just checked and i've got some of the old music that Davumaya made, so i'll upload those as well. I've got no idea about the copyright stuff though - some of it is copyrighted but which ones I have no idea.  I've still got the random events as well.  *Edit - can anyone actually log into sharepoint? It's not accepting my password. 
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| 23 Jul 2008, 10:10 |
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mstrobel
Chief Software Engineer
Joined: 11 Aug 2005, 01:00 Posts: 2688
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_________________ Lead Developer of Star Trek: Supremacy 253,658 lines of code and counting...
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| 23 Jul 2008, 16:34 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
Ship Engineer
Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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We are all waiting on the people at SharePoint to set Mike up with a new login. Then he can hand them out to use. 
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| 24 Jul 2008, 01:03 |
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Malvoisin
Fleet Admiral
Joined: 13 Nov 2006, 01:00 Posts: 2111 Location: Germany
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seems like the cheap offer was in fact cheap..  anyway, did nobody make a backup with the explorer view and copying all folders to hdd? I mean that way everyone can make a backup from time to time and it's not even taking much effort and time..
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| 27 Jul 2008, 16:28 |
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jigalypuff
Jig of the Puff
Joined: 10 Sep 2004, 01:00 Posts: 1305 Location: I wish i knew
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might be a good idea to keep all this stuff on the main host as well, i can set up ken with ftp access if you all reckon its a good idea. the host keeps 30 60 and 90 day backups.
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| 27 Jul 2008, 17:19 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
Ship Engineer
Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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Thanks. I have all the models I upload and a few of the others. It is still better to have a backup other than me. I have to work through all the models to apply scale and orientation for the 3D engine anyway. They are not as nicely organized on my three PCs so it will take time to find and organize them all. I can wait for login access to SharePoint while working on all that. 
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| 27 Jul 2008, 20:39 |
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Malvoisin
Fleet Admiral
Joined: 13 Nov 2006, 01:00 Posts: 2111 Location: Germany
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| 27 Jul 2008, 21:03 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
Ship Engineer
Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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and the timing would be good with what I am doing now 
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| 27 Jul 2008, 23:16 |
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Matress_of_evil
Evil Romulan Overlord of Evil - Now 100% Faster!
Joined: 02 Dec 2004, 01:00 Posts: 7392 Location: Returned to the previous place.
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I love sharepoint but we really do need to question its' use after this. The large file loss problem has affected me more than once, but the explorer view has been a godsend when it comes to uploading large amounts of files. The image gallaeries are also extremely useful. IF we were to try another host, explorer view and image galleries would definitely be a must in my list. And regualar backups would be on everyone's list. I'm not really sure what 'ftp' is, although I know what the abbreviation stands for. 
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| 27 Jul 2008, 23:53 |
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Malvoisin
Fleet Admiral
Joined: 13 Nov 2006, 01:00 Posts: 2111 Location: Germany
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With free programs like FileZilla and FTP Commander that you use for ftp file server management, you will have an equivalent to Explorer view. The replacement for the image gallery will be a separate, second installation of a joomla image gallery section.
ftp is just a transfer protocol designed for file transfers. it's the equivalent to http (hypertext transfer protocol) that is always used when browsing the web. Hence there are equivalent "ftp browsers" to the common web browsers like IE, FF and Opera.
The new host would be star-trek-games.com of course to reduce costs.
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| 28 Jul 2008, 05:25 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
Ship Engineer
Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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Yes, the image gallery is a very important tool in keeping track of all the ships. 
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| 29 Jul 2008, 12:24 |
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