Supremacy Pre-Release Download
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Matress_of_evil
Evil Romulan Overlord of Evil - Now 100% Faster!
Joined: 02 Dec 2004, 01:00 Posts: 7392 Location: Returned to the previous place.
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Micro$oft have just recently updated .Net to 3.5 SP1 RTM - it's no longer a beta. Unfortunately, this new version breaks compatibility, so Mike has had to make some changes to make it compatible again, but he hasn't released this update yet. The problem is Micro$oft's fault and not Mike's, but if you could just wait a few hours/days, Mike will release the update that will make the game work again.
I don't understand what the error messages mean because i'm not a programmer, but I know that this is the current (And therefore most likely) problem with your copy of the game. If the cause of your problem is anything different though, i'm sure Mike will post about it.
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| 14 Aug 2008, 09:54 |
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Davec8r
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Joined: 13 Aug 2008, 22:41 Posts: 15
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Thank you M_o_E. I thought that might be the Microsoft error. Thank you for the help and I will wait patiently 
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| 14 Aug 2008, 14:43 |
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TrashMan
Ship Engineer
Joined: 09 Jun 2005, 01:00 Posts: 334 Location: On the bridge of the USS Apocalypse
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_________________ - Modeler and Modder
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| 14 Aug 2008, 15:04 |
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Mario Balta
Crewman
Joined: 11 Aug 2008, 23:32 Posts: 8 Location: Croatia
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If some one can plizz put a new download link , from witch game will work whit out this error! (when new update comes) I am realy confused about all this.. TY!
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| 14 Aug 2008, 20:58 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
Ship Engineer
Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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Each updated version is placed at that link as it becomes available. Mike will give us the  when it is ready.
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| 14 Aug 2008, 21:35 |
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Mario Balta
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Joined: 11 Aug 2008, 23:32 Posts: 8 Location: Croatia
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I know my friend...  I just can't wait to play BoF2 .. 
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| 14 Aug 2008, 22:00 |
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Matress_of_evil
Evil Romulan Overlord of Evil - Now 100% Faster!
Joined: 02 Dec 2004, 01:00 Posts: 7392 Location: Returned to the previous place.
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As Kenneth said, the download link is updated by Mike whenever he releases an update, but the game now also comes with an auto-updater; as long as the game doesn't crash before it gets that far, it will notify you whenever an update is available, Mario. It will then download the updated files only (Rather than the whole thing, so it runs much faster and saves bandwidth). You therefore only need the download link if something goes wrong.
When Mike updates the download link, he also updates the information to go with it. If ever the game has updated requirements, the info will be in there. There will also be a brief description of the update and any other relevant info, which is why you should check the download post frequently.
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| 14 Aug 2008, 23:25 |
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mstrobel
Chief Software Engineer
Joined: 11 Aug 2005, 01:00 Posts: 2688
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Hi guys,
Unfortunately, my development box at home has a corrupt registry, and I can't boot into it at the moment. That's problematic because it's the box that I use to generate the manifests for game updates. This means I can't push out a new update (to fix the .NET 3.5 SP1 RTM issue) until I reinstall Vista this weekend.
If I have time today, I might be able to package up the necessary files into a .zip and upload them as a patch to be applied manually.
Mike
_________________ Lead Developer of Star Trek: Supremacy 253,658 lines of code and counting...
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| 15 Aug 2008, 16:05 |
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cdrwolfe
Combat Engineer
Joined: 18 Jul 2005, 01:00 Posts: 1001
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Ouch, sorry to hear that, registry errors are a bitch.
Regards Wolfe
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| 15 Aug 2008, 17:04 |
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Mario Balta
Crewman
Joined: 11 Aug 2008, 23:32 Posts: 8 Location: Croatia
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So what hapend to the update then guys?? i am waiting for it like frozen men waits sunshine!!!! 
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| 20 Aug 2008, 16:53 |
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Mario Balta
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Joined: 11 Aug 2008, 23:32 Posts: 8 Location: Croatia
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ANYONE ??? What happen to the update ? Answer plizz! 
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| 23 Aug 2008, 10:58 |
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Malvoisin
Fleet Admiral
Joined: 13 Nov 2006, 01:00 Posts: 2111 Location: Germany
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please be patient. This is a fan-game and updates come as they come. Some take longer, others don't.
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| 23 Aug 2008, 11:04 |
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3 0f 12
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Joined: 26 Jun 2008, 06:29 Posts: 42 Location: Ultramatrix 002
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_________________We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE." - Borg Collective  That doesn't mean I shouldn't be on your friend list.
Borg Quote of the Fortnight: "If only he had the chance of having an out-of-body experience, its truly perfection."
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| 24 Aug 2008, 06:05 |
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Matress_of_evil
Evil Romulan Overlord of Evil - Now 100% Faster!
Joined: 02 Dec 2004, 01:00 Posts: 7392 Location: Returned to the previous place.
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Have you redownloaded the game and checked if the same thing has happened again? I still haven't seen it happen, and that's only the second time this bug has been reported; it is therefore either an extremely rare bug, or requires a specific (But currently unknown) sequence of events to happen before it occurs.
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| 24 Aug 2008, 11:09 |
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3 0f 12
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Joined: 26 Jun 2008, 06:29 Posts: 42 Location: Ultramatrix 002
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It is likely that it's a rare bug, and it hasn't occured for a while, but it does seem to continuosly occur in one game randomly forever, but only in that game, starting over is the only fix when it happens. I concurr, Matress.
Btw, is it possible to program the other races to at least build the zero turn buildings that dont require any research, like orbital batteries and Destalation plans? You could use a simple "If-Then" group that is part of a base AI that is uniform to all the races. This base would only include functions that are common sense to all races, regardless of policies. Also the faction system should use the adjective form of each Race rather than plural, then the government names could fit:
Identity: ANDORIAN Short Name: Andorian Long Name: Andorian Empire Native Race: Andorians Identity: FEDERATION Short Name: Federation Long Name: Federation of Planets Native Race: Humans Identity: VIDIIAN Short Name: Vidiian Long Name: Vidiian Sodality Native race: Vidiians
Btw again, I own the Star Trek star charts, so I have some information that is rarely metioned otherwise. Such as the real Suns in each system, the real planets in some of the systems, political information, and I noticed errors in the planet classes, ex: gas planets aren't G and B, but actually I and J.
I'd like to help out with the technical information for Supremacy, and maybe join the balancing team, I've noticed alot of partially created ships in the editor, as well as missing details on home systems.
I'd like to offer my need of perfection to summarize. Hehe
_________________We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE." - Borg Collective  That doesn't mean I shouldn't be on your friend list.
Borg Quote of the Fortnight: "If only he had the chance of having an out-of-body experience, its truly perfection."
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| 24 Aug 2008, 20:33 |
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cdrwolfe
Combat Engineer
Joined: 18 Jul 2005, 01:00 Posts: 1001
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Awesome, the more the merrier  Regards Wolfe
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| 24 Aug 2008, 21:47 |
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Matress_of_evil
Evil Romulan Overlord of Evil - Now 100% Faster!
Joined: 02 Dec 2004, 01:00 Posts: 7392 Location: Returned to the previous place.
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| 24 Aug 2008, 23:34 |
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3 0f 12
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Joined: 26 Jun 2008, 06:29 Posts: 42 Location: Ultramatrix 002
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By the details on the home systems, I meant that some of the systems had an incorrect lineup of planets, for example, the Vulcan system only has 3 planets, and one is an M class. The main sun color is also orange.
_________________We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE." - Borg Collective  That doesn't mean I shouldn't be on your friend list.
Borg Quote of the Fortnight: "If only he had the chance of having an out-of-body experience, its truly perfection."
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| 25 Aug 2008, 06:18 |
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Matress_of_evil
Evil Romulan Overlord of Evil - Now 100% Faster!
Joined: 02 Dec 2004, 01:00 Posts: 7392 Location: Returned to the previous place.
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Not anymore they don't.  Asteroid belts currently don't have an image associated with them in the editor (I told Mike about this problem last night) so they show up as a blank space; that's why I've highlighted the Asteroid belt in the image above. The purple Planet is a Crystalline planet, T'Khul. It's listed as a small, young, B-class planet that is rich in resources so I set it as Crystalline. It is curently the only planet in the game that is officially set as Crystalline, but Mercury is apparently also a class-B planet so I will be changing it to reflect this. More will be added if I hear of any other starsystems in Trek that have similar planets that should be in the game. The game may randomly produce other Crystalline planets in Minor Race homesystems however, although they will be a rare class type. The planet class has no particular bonuses yet, but I might create a special structure for the planet that increases raw material and/or Dilithium output. I'll discuss it with Dafedz.
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| 25 Aug 2008, 12:49 |
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3 0f 12
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Joined: 26 Jun 2008, 06:29 Posts: 42 Location: Ultramatrix 002
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lol, you still didn't change the sun to orange. The B class comes first, the Giant M (Vulcan), second, and a Large G-class comes third (T'Khut). Yes, the third wasn't a typo. If its not too much to ask, is it possible for Vulcan to have its own animation, because its a unique M class planet, if it gets one, Cardassia Prime should also gets its own for being unique.
I have just noticed an error regrading the Pakled, the inhabitants of their Home system has been set to Human, I fixed it myself, but it should be included in the next update. Same problem detected with Mintakans.
A detail about the Denobula System, it should actualy be named Denobula Triaxa and be Yellow, and the Denobulan Homeworld is named Denobulus, apply the name to the M class planet in the system.
The Andorian star needs to be white rather than blue.
In the Bajoran system, none of the planets have moons but Bajor (5) and the 8th planet, Andros (2), K-class. Lol, the system has 14 planets and one of Bajor's moons is a demon class.
Cardassian system contains an orange sun, two small class-B's, then 4 large class-M's, the second is named Hutet, third named Cardassia Minor, and the fourth of course, Cardassia Prime. they are followed by a small Q-class and then a ringed I-class. Btw, Q-class is variable planet ranging from molten to having CO2 ice due to eccentric orbit or variable star output, sheeeeeeew. Example: Genesis planet.
_________________We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE." - Borg Collective  That doesn't mean I shouldn't be on your friend list.
Borg Quote of the Fortnight: "If only he had the chance of having an out-of-body experience, its truly perfection."
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| 26 Aug 2008, 02:05 |
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iwulff
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Joined: 18 Sep 2004, 01:00 Posts: 884 Location: Germany
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Excellent work, 3 of 12. Didn't knew about the 14 planets of Bajor?
_________________ "Logic is the beginning of wisdom; not the end." -- Spock (Star Trek VI)
Q: The trial never ended. We never reached a verdict. But now we have. You're guilty. Picard: Guilty of what? Q:Of being inferior.
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| 26 Aug 2008, 11:05 |
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Zeleni
Aesthetics Surgeon
Joined: 24 Oct 2006, 01:00 Posts: 1350 Location: Croatia
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3 of 12 if you wish you can create excel document with canonical systems data for all races including races without known information where you can estimate , then it would be easy for us to implement in game data. 
_________________ Carpe Diem
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| 26 Aug 2008, 12:21 |
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Matress_of_evil
Evil Romulan Overlord of Evil - Now 100% Faster!
Joined: 02 Dec 2004, 01:00 Posts: 7392 Location: Returned to the previous place.
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An excel document would be useful, but it isn't necessary; i've already implemented all of 3 of 12's points that I can, Mal. It doesn't take long to enter the info in the editor. ...I had a few problems though: Bajor; the game can only allow for a maximum of 9 or 10 planets due to size constraints. If people want Bajor to be such a major system, i'll bump up the size of the planets instead. There is no way to define moons in the game though; they are randomly assigned, which means Earth can sometimes have four moons, and in other games will have no Moon! I instead set the Demon Moon as a tiny Demon Planet instead to ensure it would appear. I've done the same to Andoria; it is supposed to be a frozen moon orbiting a Gas Giant, but I set it as a tiny Arctic planet next to a Gas Giant. Anyways, here's Bajor and Andros: Cardassia; I didn't know the names of the non-Prime Planets, and you've confused me as to the naming order. By Hutet being second, is that the second planet from the sun, or the second of the class-M planets? I also put the I class as a Medium Gas Giant (If that makes sense lol) and the Q class as a Desert Planet. Are you really sure Cardassia is class-M though? I always thought it was a desert. This is the current layout, anyways: Mintaka and Pakled; there ISN'T a problem with Human invaders here; I fixed the problem a long time ago, but I haven't given any updated files to Mike since I started my update. There used to be a bug in the editor that caused Humans to be randomly assigned as the occupants of different minor race systems. That has since been fixed, but the game data files that are contained in the standard game have not been updated to reflect this. Vulcan; same problem as Cardassia Prime, except I always thought Vulcan was a Desert or Volcanic Planet, not class-M. Anyways, it isn't always possible to match the different Planet classes in the game to those in trek; the ONLY Planet classes in the game are Demon, Gas Giant, Rogue, Barren, Volcanic, Arctic, Desert, Jungle, Oceanic, and Terran. I also like to use to help with deciding on the class of a Planet. ... Adding a Planet is theoretically easy. All you have to do is create a 512x256 pixel .png image of the planetary surface, like so: The game then automatically applies that image to a sphere, then adds a semi-transparent atmosphere texture on top of it based on the planet class. The texture image should be called eg. Vulcan.png, and the file should be put in Supremacy/Resources/Images/Planets. The game will then use the texture for every planet with the same name as an existing texture image. In this case, there's now a Vulcan texture, so the game will use it for every planet that it finds called Vulcan. I tried adding a texture for Vulcan, but until the Vulcans appear in one of my games, I don't know for sure that adding the new texture has worked. It's easy enough to replace an existing image though. I had some fun with Earth. 
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| 26 Aug 2008, 18:17 |
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3 0f 12
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Joined: 26 Jun 2008, 06:29 Posts: 42 Location: Ultramatrix 002
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_________________We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE." - Borg Collective  That doesn't mean I shouldn't be on your friend list.
Borg Quote of the Fortnight: "If only he had the chance of having an out-of-body experience, its truly perfection."
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| 26 Aug 2008, 23:11 |
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Matress_of_evil
Evil Romulan Overlord of Evil - Now 100% Faster!
Joined: 02 Dec 2004, 01:00 Posts: 7392 Location: Returned to the previous place.
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| 26 Aug 2008, 23:38 |
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Mario Balta
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Joined: 11 Aug 2008, 23:32 Posts: 8 Location: Croatia
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OK guys it was nice knowing you all .. i great you all ... I see that no one is kind to put new update for supremacy ... and i am tired of waiting.. bb from Croatia ! 
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| 27 Aug 2008, 22:37 |
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iwulff
Fleet Admiral
Joined: 18 Sep 2004, 01:00 Posts: 884 Location: Germany
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_________________ "Logic is the beginning of wisdom; not the end." -- Spock (Star Trek VI)
Q: The trial never ended. We never reached a verdict. But now we have. You're guilty. Picard: Guilty of what? Q:Of being inferior.
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| 27 Aug 2008, 22:58 |
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3 0f 12
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Joined: 26 Jun 2008, 06:29 Posts: 42 Location: Ultramatrix 002
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Here's the Bajor system lineup: The first 4 planets are small B's so make a large one. Next is a medium N-class. then a large L-Class, and a Giant M-class (Bajor). Then is the tiny demon (Jeraddo), then an asteriod belt, then a Giant I-class, Large J-class, Finally, Giant C-class.
_________________We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE." - Borg Collective  That doesn't mean I shouldn't be on your friend list.
Borg Quote of the Fortnight: "If only he had the chance of having an out-of-body experience, its truly perfection."
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| 27 Aug 2008, 23:10 |
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Matress_of_evil
Evil Romulan Overlord of Evil - Now 100% Faster!
Joined: 02 Dec 2004, 01:00 Posts: 7392 Location: Returned to the previous place.
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I've sent Mario an email along the same lines as yours, Iwulff. It's up to him to decide whether he wants to rejoin the community and offer genuine constructive criticism. ... Thanks for the info 3 of 12. I've done some research on Bajor myself, and the info i've found is a bit different to what you've said. The planets you've suggested don't add up to 14, and I can't find any info on Bajor 1-4. I'm just confused now so this is what I made it as: Obviously it's changeable just like everything else. 
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| 28 Aug 2008, 00:10 |
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Mario Balta
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Joined: 11 Aug 2008, 23:32 Posts: 8 Location: Croatia
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Ok guys i will be patient..  I will visit the page now and then to see if there are any news.. I understand that you are spending your free time , and that you all have your private life's and obligations like i.. Mabe i am to inpatient and i am sorry for that.. but understand me all so ... I am realy great fan of , BoF and Star Trek series and films... like most of you, and i can't wait to see and play it ! My last request is.. that some one email me like Matress_of_evil, when something pops up for update, our mabe final version of the game! BB for now... and thx agen Matress_of_evil and others for quick response ! 
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| 28 Aug 2008, 01:16 |
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