hi all

first my apologize if i make grammar mistakes, i'm french

to introduce me i'm 58 years old and play game since i'm a kid
i had played +5 years an internet game (real time) that i have stoped some weeks ago

so as i was looking for a new game i have found supremacy and tryed it before to begin to try botf game or read forums

first, the install, absolutly no problem, i did framework first then supemacy and begin to play without any troubles
my computer is not strong, no graphic card, xp and no lack while i play, it's great

the global feeling is awesome

No major bugs only small one :

-time to time item are built x2, by example 2 ships are builft or 2 obects(like mining corp) on a planet while there is 1 order to built

-summary, there is a conflict with the map so it's difficult to read it

-some object(especially food) doesn't give the % bonus really, but a vely low amount

-not sure of this(just tested it) the intel points are not activated

some misunderstanding

i have not understood how the map is working about areas:

-when i own a planet it's blue but sometime the blue area is the location +1
-i have ships strended, yes i'm a nut i didn't noticed there is fuel^^
but what is strange it's the area where ships doesn't use fuel is changing at each turn, while i have not colonized new planets, time to time the area grow so a ship strended is included and find fuel in space, i don't get it
same i have not found why it's possible to collect dilithium on some neutrals but others no, even if there is dilithium showed on the system

of course the game is in progress so before to make suggest i will read all the posts, but in his actual status what is missing on my thought it's a global planet page, 1 planet by line, with planet's status prod +/- units, event etc, because when many planets are colonizated it's a pain to check them all one by one, that's taking a long time.

to finish this post, i guess this game will me include in botf family, with rules, background, way to play but what i find great it's that could be played with other background and way to play, it's seeming easy customable

congratz

thanks for your welcome

i point out what i wanted to mean :

about builtx2

no i have ordered only 1 built but as result i have 2
by example i have a system with 2 mining corps what is normally not possible
both are using enrgy but that's not giving 2xprod
it's hppening more often with ships 1 is ordered 2 are built with nothing else in queue that the 1 ordered

about summary

i don't know how to make screenshot sorry
whatever that would not show the probleme, i will try to explain
it's blinking, so every 1 second the map is refreshing then the summary, that's making difficult to read it

about a global page

sorry i wanted to mean 1 system by line (instead of planet)
it's taking a long time to select 1 by 1 the system in the box
a global page would allow to have a seen on 15/20 systems on the same page, so easy to open only those with worker units in +/-, what is built finished, prod status etc, fleet siting, fleet in building
that would allow also to sort the systems by location, size, etc

about shipyards and stations

lol i can't built them probably i have not yet enough progressed in the tech tree ^^

when i will have enough tested in single mode i will try the multiplayer mode with friends, please, how much players can play in same time?

yes the game is automaticly updated (2 time since last post)


i have a major problem
i have begined a new game
on turn 63
after to have fill up planets building, ordered ships building, make my ship move etc i m blockaded on the turn processing
i have made several try it's staying working on the processing turn
either on ship buildind processing either on trade processing or another processing
i'm forced to stop the game by window (ctr alt del) it's showing the uc is busy at 100%

no log error of course so i join you the sav file (name p1)

i have made a try just load it and launch a new turn without to do anything it's working perfectly

about the bug building*2 item not ordered, since last game's update it's still happening but in more now on some systems i have in the list of system building offering 2 time some item which are normaly 1 by system (like food upgradind)
when i click on 1 the 2 line disapear and 1 is only showed as on the way to be built

this evening there was a new update game i have made a new try and that has worked seem it's fixed

The game suffers from a seemingly random bug where the game will freeze during turn processing. That sounds like it might the problem you just described. There is unfortunately no way to fix it at the moment because we don't know the cause (Since there's no bug reports), so I would recommend you save your game regularly so that if the game does crash, at least you've got a recent save file.

As for your buildings problem, i'm really not sure about what might be happening there, sorry.

yes i save the game at each turn
iit has not happened for days and since this morning it's redoing, i have made several try each time that's freezing
either it's the last update game
either i have too many system
either i have explore too much
i'm forced to stop it by window and i have noted each time the uc was 100% busy and the process require 1go memory

my computer is 1go memory in whole -250mo for the graphic -200mo for window so i have about 550Mo free for supremacy

i join the last save if ever it's usefull

each turn make me busy 1h30/2h so i'm wondering if i would not abandon this one where i have colonized too much system for a new with less system and may be a smallest map

I just downloaded your save file and I encountered the freeze on planetary production, so it is definitely a programming problem; it even happens when I use my updated files, so it isn't due to the game database. I'll give Mike a nudge about this.

Welcome
and sorry about the bugs.

i mean when a ship go to 2 ranges(by example) in 1 turn the ship which is escorting it go to 1 range
btw the escort ship is not in the same location

I can confirm that the attached save results in a freeze during turn processing (though on my machine it freezes during "Generating Player Map Updates"). I'll do some testing after work tonight or tomorrow afternoon and see if I can get it nailed down. Thanks for posting the save file!

EDIT: Hmm, looks like the freeze is being caused by the game running out of memory. Perhaps the Huge galaxy is too Huge. I've posted a temporary update that should eliminate the problem for now.

If we can work out the memory constraints of the maps, would it be possible for you to program it so the game only displays maps that would actually work on a players machine? You could always set it as a selectable option (On by default) so people could try the bigger maps regardless of the memory then.

For example, say we figure out that a huge map requires an average of 1Gb RAM, the game would then only allow the selection of a huge map if more than 1Gb of RAM was actually available. If less than a gigabyte was available, then the game would then only display the tiny to large maps.

Is it possible to do this? It would help to reduce the liklihood of players encountering the problem then. You could even add a gigantic map that was only selectable if you have an uber computer then.

The problem is not not actually related to the map itself, but an function that finds the convex hulls surrounding a player's territory. Seeing as it that data was going to be used by the AI, and the AI doesn't exist yet, I've just disabled it for now. I can look into refactoring it or scrapping it later.

Convex hulls?

My brain hurts. Why didn't you just say "owned space boundary" or something?

My brain hurts even more then.

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Yorev, I used 1Gb purely as an example, not as a real-world amount since I have no idea what those numbers would be. Obviously the required amounts of RAM would be influenced by operating system (Vista requirements are doubled for instance), but since Mike has identified the likely cause of the problem, it doesn't really matter now.

yes i have tryed this morning and with the last update it's working well
in + the turn's process is many more faster