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I like enterprise, allthough I think it's screwing up the timeline. I think in the end, archer will wake up out of a dream (a very long dream) and he will go board his new ship or something like that. That will allow the timeline to be like it never happened (which we've seen alot in star trek).

My hope for the next series would be.......

Based at starfleet academy and starfleet headquarters. It would be based shortly after the dominion war and we can see what happens at HQ, with the occasional diplomatic meeting on another planet or base, and maybe training missions with the Red Squadron, I think thats what they were called, its late and i'm sleepy. lol We could see what happens planet side as opposed to alway aboard a ship.

It would open up so many more plot lines that always encountering another ship or whatever. It would be trek, with a drama twist. Imagine living through the aftermath of the Breen attack on San Fran.

There could be terrorist attacks on earth, or nearby space installations, love stories, war stories, or just background on how the entire UFP works... it could be quite interesting.

I'm rambling.... let me know what you guys think...


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I like the idea of the alternate universe l3uddy. It would be good, but totaly against what Trek is about, its suppost to be peace in the galaxy. Saying that throws my alternate timeline out of the window too.
Althought it might not seem it. I DO like Enterprise, its a good show, not Trek in my eyes, but the new series looks better than befor, maybe theve changed the writers of something but they do need to sort somehting out to fix the timeline. Maybe Archer will get the Enterprise thrown back in time, stop it ever being launched and then it will never happen, then he'll Quantium leap out of there, lol :lol:
As for colione's idea about Starfleet academy, i like that. Prehaps following a new student, like the Academy game. They join in year one, and the series follows him/her or them in their years there. If it was like the game then it would have a good prespective on the science too as diffrent members of the group do diffrent things and we'd see learn about the tech along with them. As for rambling, we all do it, its part of the package here :P

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You know i also really really like a serie about a advanced ship but not super, so i suggest the Akira class. :D

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of course, we can like whatever we want, but it's up to paramount to make it..... and from what I hear, enterprise may not make it much longer because of the ratings.... so sad, i like it even if it did screw up the timeline.


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I havent really gotten into it, but I think that it will make it through 7 seasons. I am waiting for the DVDs to come out, or a marathon, I saw like the first three and then started to forget to watch it, or set my VCR to record it, and now I am so far behind that I just assume wait till I can see a big chunk and get caught back up.

I think that an academy series would be awsome... kinda like a star trek harry potter...

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yea thats how i am... i saw the first season or so, then the time and days changed, and i never seem to catch it... although I watch the rerun every weekend :)

Now they are doing mini-series, 3 or 4 shows on the same story line... it may attract people to watch every week, but if your like me, if i miss any of the edisodes in the mini-series, i don't watch again until they are done with the mini-series, that way i don't have to play catch up during the show...


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i ended up coming into enterprise at the begining of the xindy "war" season, and that is what pulled me into the series. i know many people did not like this storyline because it "messed up the timeline". I suggest that we all maybe not make such a big deal of it. maybe it truly did happen, but because of the enormous emotional response to the loss of the however many million of people when their probe attacked florida, it is not mentioned often.

I just like the show and the possibility of what it can become, but if no one will watch it, then it will just die prematurally (along with any hopes of a new trek series any time in the immediate future)


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dont get me wrong, i like the show... it's not really canon for me though when i think about it.

Why would starfleet or UESPA or whatever it's called lol
anyway, why would it go from producing NX ships, to Daedalus class ships, then go back to making the bigger ships later on...

hhmmm... a thought.... maybe something happened and the bigger NX weren't feasable anymore, so they downsized the ships and came up with the Daedalus class... I dunno... I think it was a bad idea to do a "prequel" during such a turning point in earth history, or future or whatever it is :lol:

They probably would have been better off using a smaller ship, but i guess it wouldn't have been as spectacular as a shiny NX class :)

I do like the show, but the mini-series thing needs to stop lol I can't keep up.


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There's actually no canonical evidence that the cylinder/sphere ship is deadalus class, it's never been hinted at in an episode. It's possible the actual daedalus class was more like a cross between an nx and a constitution. It's also possible the daedalus class was intended as a small scout or science ship and there were much larger cruisers in service.

ENT hasn't messed up the canon timeline in that respect, just the semi/non canon explanation that's been established and accepted by fans for years.

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it's not mentioned anywhere that the deadalus class helped end the war? i rememeber reading it somewhere, but maybe it was a fan's site....


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The only time daedalus class was ever used was in the tng episode 'power play', they mentioned that a daedalus class ship had been in service around 8 years after the year the 1st season of enterprise is set in.

What a daedalus class ship looks like, it's role, it's abilities are only fan speculation.

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oohh ok :) i guess i get into to many sites and "unoffical" ships to keep it all straight....

So it's possible that the daedalus could evolve from the NX? maybe not look so much like a submarine with a head on it? the daedalus we all love looks to fragile to fight in a war..... maybe it's just me lol


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hmm some of these ideas are great esp the whole AQUA alliance, however in reply to everyones suggestion I dont think our ideas would be feasable at all (including my suggestion below), if you go to far TREK it wont attract the next generation :wink: of fans. its too in depth and it unfortunetely allways has to have humans as the main characters. wheew.

so my idea and i dont think any1 mentioned it yet was to have a whole series based on the Klingons. with the current technology available and the huge canon, fleshing out a storyline would be easy. It could show the Klingon honour system how warriors grow up- the trials and rites and could be set TNG era or also retold in a story format where every now and then you could retell a Khayless story/Romulan war. The battles would be awesome and the Kliingon view of humans would still give it some mainstream aspect.

You could chuck a few human characters like Curzon-Dax to give it the human perspective and also to appease TV viewers in effect using the humans to explain to the audience Klingon lore.

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if I was writing a new series, it would be a Nebula class on a exploration mission in the Beta Quadrant. You could revisit the Gorn and visit new worlds. Only one time travel/holosuite episode a season {most of those were crap anyway} Imagine meeting a Romulan expansion fleet or Klingon scout ship. Ferengi traders and say a trading starbase run by Nausicans. Any new "major" would be roughly on par with the Federation. I hate always having a new superpower. I never bought that the Son'a were a isolated band of misfits. I fiqured the Son'a are the race the "Baku" separated from. The Son'a as a major player would be interesting. just a thought.


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They could do another prequal just this one of tng and particullarly Picard and his early years, and the time he served as captain of the Stargazer. I kinda think that this is already really well covered though and a series may be kinda boring. I stand behind my alternate timeline, there is no reason that this wouldnt follow the star trek dream of peace. It would be the developing of peace. I also like the Academy idea... the harry potter of star trek could be VERY popular. I dont care for anything thats super in the future or a ship where the federation always has the edge... i like the under dog stories much more.

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Great ideas guys. I really like the underdog story too. perhaps a Centaur or Saber class ship, doing routine thinks or assisting larger ships in missions.

The other idea i got from other trekkies is a Sort of "Secret Agent" Movie. It would resemble a sort of "Bond Meets Star Trek" Type senerio. Maybe a section 32 agent, or some other part of the Federation which has some sort of mission to accompilish that normal federation officials cannot. Some sort of romulan plot could do good. New Special gadgets and things like that could be pretty interesting. but has to have a good plot to work.

This Season of Enterprise has been very interesting. The Vulcan Series has been very interesting, but i hope they stay on the air a couple more seasons. after that they should take a break from production and get their heads together. I beleive that trek will get better in a few years when they finish the Star Trek Online game. Probably around then they will make more 24th century movies and series.


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I have another idea for a new series...

Imagine a ship (from the starfleet we know) getting stuck in the alternate universe (where humans are slaves) and they have to build a version of the United Federation of Planets. It would kinda be like Andromeda, but with a Trek theme.

They would only have one ship, and they would be seriously out numbered and out gunned. But it would be a great show. They would have to follow all the guidelines that they currently do, but with no one watching over their shoulder, they could actually do whatever they wanted. They are fighting for a peace in the galaxy, but they have no fleet to turn to. The best ship for this would be the Defiant because it can cloak, and it's armed to the teeth.

It won't come out like voyager, because they would have to steal supplies, or use the resistance already in that universe to occupy a station or supply depot so they can continuously have supplies.

This could be refined a little, but that's the general idea I have.

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I think it would be neat to do one of two things:

Make a series that follows a starfleet intelligence unit.

Make a series that follows a federation marine/army unit. I think both have real potential.


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I've read this entire post, and so far, no-one seems to have remebered the USS Wells. (The Timeship that took seven of nine back in timefour times to try to get rid of a bomb on Voyager)

That ship looked really cool, and it must be from the relatively distant future, coz of it's look - it had no visible warp engines as we know it, unless it used Quantum Slipstream Drive or summat.

What a cool idea for a storyline though - travelling through time, to solve problems and mistakes of the past. The whole point of the this show would be to either create the trek timeline as we know it - they might come from an alternate one, or it would change the timeline on purpose - a new threat would be the reason why.

You could avoid the problems with the time-continuum, coz you would be creating the timeline that we know. You could also visit any part of the trek history you wanted to!

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Frankly, I hope Enterprise continues on its current course of non-time-travel stories and we get to see both the Romulan-Human war & the founding of the Federation.

I know the series has seriously damaged chronological continuity; and frankly, the whole Xindi & Expanse story made me stop watching. I liked the Xindi idea, they just screwed the pooch on execution. But now that they've gotten off the temporal cold-war kick, recent stories have gotten me watching again. And though I'm afraid of how they'll muddle the timeline even worse, I'm kinda excited to see where they'll go with Enterprise; see how they'll set up the war and Fed founding.

But if they do a new Trek show, I'd like to see them go back to their roots: boldly going. I want to see exploration of the unknown for the mere excitement of exploring. I don't really mind when in the timeline... Though the idea of exploring in an Akira sounds fun... Or an orb-&-cylinder Daedalus I so love, even though it's not cannon.

To digress, I kinda see Daedalus as war ships of the Human-Romulan conflict, designed for quick & easy mass production from relatively few resources with acceptable performance. A bit like a US Liberty Ship... Only, better designed, with performance that would make them something more than wallowing pigs. (In WWII my grandad proudly served aboard the liberty ship Athel McBean � no joke! He'd fight to the death defending her honor, but still declares the Liberties "slow, wallowing pigs" ... and other, more colorful expressions.) I see Daedalus as a modest but stable performer; well built inspite of sacrifices made for quick production. At wars end there'd be dozens or hundreds of them left over, all modifiable to explorers. That would include Essex, Horizon and Archon... You might even fit an Enterpirse in there, though many fans (even me) would probably hate that idea.

So, yeah. A post-war exploration series aboard an Akira (post dominion war) or Daedalus (post Romulan war) would be neat.

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I have another idea for a new series...

Imagine a ship (from the starfleet we know) getting stuck in the alternate universe (where humans are slaves) and they have to build a version of the United Federation of Planets. It would kinda be like Andromeda, but with a Trek theme.

They would only have one ship, and they would be seriously out numbered and out gunned. But it would be a great show. They would have to follow all the guidelines that they currently do, but with no one watching over their shoulder, they could actually do whatever they wanted. They are fighting for a peace in the galaxy, but they have no fleet to turn to. The best ship for this would be the Defiant because it can cloak, and it's armed to the teeth.

It won't come out like voyager, because they would have to steal supplies, or use the resistance already in that universe to occupy a station or supply depot so they can continuously have supplies.

This could be refined a little, but that's the general idea I have.



Sorry to rain on your parade mate, but the Defiant was destroyed along with it's cloak. Since the war is over I really can't see the Rommies giving us another one! Maybe another ship with a stolen cloak would work.

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How about we see the Voyager 6 probe fall into a black hole like it did, emerge from the other side and see how ity made it back. Apparently it crashed on a planet ruled by machines, would be good if that were the start of the Borg, and they managed to get space travel cause of Our probe.

Or prehaps they should ask Jonathan Franks if he would like to do his own series in the Titan. Like TNG but now with the Romulans as friends. They could just redo all the old stuff from TOS and we'd still watch it cause its Trek. :P

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How about we see the Voyager 6 probe fall into a black hole like it did, emerge from the other side and see how ity made it back. Apparently it crashed on a planet ruled by machines, would be good if that were the start of the Borg, and they managed to get space travel cause of Our probe.

Or prehaps they should ask Jonathan Franks if he would like to do his own series in the Titan. Like TNG but now with the Romulans as friends. They could just redo all the old stuff from TOS and we'd still watch it cause its Trek. :P


I dont think I would want to see anything about "Vger" simply because they said it traveled through a black hole to get to wherever it ended up. :roll: I'd also have to think just by the sheer size of the Borg's empire that they were around long before we were sending out our early space probes.

It would be interesting to see Riker in the Titan, but just from reading some of the posts on this thread, I dont know how many would like it. The complaint about not wanting a new, top of the line ship, was because they would be able to beat the crap out of almost anything that comes it's way. Unless there was some new, powerful threat to the Federation...


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That is why i really want a Akira, is it a strong ship, but not unconquerable and it's my favorite ship, with looks and stuff.. :D I also think that they should limit the stuff from people from the future and such, this has been used to often, and isn't special anymore.

Perhaps they should just go back to what the Enterprises did, exploration and search for new life and civilizations. I dunno, i also want a deeper story behind all that. That is why i also really like DS9, and why i also like Enterprise, although the decisions that Archer sometimes makes are really stupid. :lol: Like this planet with these 2 species, with the one civilization being sick and the lesser race not. Well Archer in the end says that they can't do anything, because they can't play as god, and can't interfere with the natural evolution. But that is really nonsence, but i won't start a discussion on that. :D

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Rigel- Nobody knows what class the Titan is, there's no need for it to be new and powerful as it's class was never mentioned and it was never seen. Could easily be an excelsior or galaxy. The only clue we have is it's name- it was probably quite a big ship at the time it was launched. Obviously, the excelsior was huge when it was launched.

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The Voyager probe can't have been the cause of the rise of the Borg, since i'm sure i remember Seven-of-Nine sating that the Borg have been around for at least 900 years - so they had been aroung for 500 years already, before the Voyager probe was launched! :o

I agree that a new series with Johnathan Frakes would be cool though, especially if the Romulans were in it. They just seem sort of under-used and forgotten about in most of the series - they're a major power for christ's sake! :evil:

Even the Sela storyline seems to have been forgotten about lately - which i for one thought was cool. 8)

I always asumed that the Titan was an Akira-class ship though, i think they would have been much more common ships than was portrayed in any of the series - they're fast, manouverable, reasonably powerful, and are good ships for planetary research etc. (A bit like the Nova class, just far, far, better)

I think this would be a good ship for Riker to Command, although I sort of see him commanding a Defiant as well, since he just seems to like to fight!
(But don't we all?) :twisted:

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I actually think a show on the Titan with Cpt Riker, Troi and a new crew, operating near Romulan space and carrying on after nemesis would be my first choice.

Hmmm a Defiant called Titan... Maybe if they were feeling ironic. :lol:

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Rigel- Nobody knows what class the Titan is, there's no need for it to be new and powerful as it's class was never mentioned and it was never seen. Could easily be an excelsior or galaxy. The only clue we have is it's name- it was probably quite a big ship at the time it was launched. Obviously, the excelsior was huge when it was launched.


:oops: I don't know why, but I think I just assumed the Titan was another Soverign. :oops:

Nevertheless, I think Riker in command of an Akira or Defiant called Titan would be interesting. Keeping maybe one or two crewmembers from the Enterprise would be cool too. Defending the Federation from those duplicitious Romulans (I envision a story where the Romulans learn how Sisko and the Federation tricked them into siding with them against the Dominion, and this starts another conflict. :) )Maybe even another appearence of species 8472. (But I still dont know about those Borg/bio cubes :) )


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Borg Biocubes would be stupid beyond words. That was a fantastic idea about the Roms discovering Sisko's deception, there's a lot that could be done with that.

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That was a fantastic idea about the Roms discovering Sisko's deception, there's a lot that could be done with that.


Thats something that just sort of came to me when I was writing the above post. It could be very interesting. Maybe a Fed vs Rom war, with the Klingons siding with the Feds, and perhaps the roms going and allying themselves with the battered Dominion, together they would make for a very sizable force (but I'm not sure anyone wants another Dominion war...)

Even if neither side had any other major allies, I think it would still be very cool to see a Fed vs Rom conflict.


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