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So you say that we can use the klingon court?
I got permission from Doug and we have permission to use his work, but I believe that we will be able to use only rejected work because the rest falls under the copyright of Paramount. But I will ask him the next time we talk.

We will Vjeko, it will be best for you to ask him for all star trek work that he is allowed to share with us, maybe we get some exclusive images.

I'll ask him to send me all the work he didn't sold to anyone, maybe event get him to become a part of our community if not to busy. And the pictures are awsome.

That would be nice, I saw his work on Drex Files he is amazing, he has for shore huge collection of star trek cgi's but we'll see if he is ready to share with us. Good luck with Doug and good night Vjeko it's late.

Zeleni, this picture is based on SPACE 1999 designs. it's a fighter launch platform.

I work with what I have, Zeleni. You hadn't sent me the Cardassian images and I thought some of the images worked better in other places, and that's why I swapped them over. So far i've been the person ultimately in charge of the images, mainly because i'm also in charge of implementing the database.

I know that Dafedz's database seems to shift a lot, but he's updating his database as new ideas get floated around, as well as entering concrete info on the game. So this means some of the information in Dafedz's database doesn't match up with what is intended or will actually be in the game. For example, Dafedz has come up with a number of new buildings lately, such as the individual empire replacements for the Communications Grid. But these are not official or finalised yet. So don't take them as law. Just go by what is contained in my information threads or simply ask me directly about them. I can compile lists easily enough, just as I did with the Federation.

I'll try to keep you in the loop as I update them though. Thanks for the image previews as well, i'll upload them to Sharepoint. It's going to be hard to lose some of the existing images that these will be replacing because their creators put so much work into them though. I've worked with some of them for so long that they almost became like old friends.

By the way, you're not the only one with a big work area; My BOTF2 folder is 11,380 files in 349 folders, totalling 1.79Gb.

Good night everyone. I'll do my best to get support from Doug.

Good work vjeko1701, MOE and Zeleni.
I am impressed.

nice catch Starfleet :

btw. Zeleni, before scrapping original artwork due to database changes or not being the best image fitting supremacy needs, you may want to store it in a different folder and show it to me at some point. They might still be useful for a BotE pic.
just to make sure a last question (even if perhaps asked a 100 times ), are you using star trek screenshots or photos in your pics or anything else copyrighted? I'd like to use those pics for our minor race buildings in bote too. I know it's extra-work but if images that are completely whipped up by yourself and not depicting a specific scene from any Star Trek film or series episode would be marked that way, it'll make it easier for me to sort out which ones have no actual relationship towards star trek but are completely fictional and thus transferable to bote content. At best would be a complete source and credits list below each image. For the Supremacy Credits list in-game that needs to be done anyway.


Btw. I also found a nice scifi image page which says:


Depends on what that "personal" means, i.e. if redistribution inside supremacy download is allowed. Nevertheless they got nice pics all along:

http://wittswallpapers.com/SciFi/indexgeneral.html
http://wittswallpapers.com/SciFi/cityscapes000000.htm
http://wittswallpapers.com/SciFi/cityscapes000001.htm
http://wittswallpapers.com/SciFi/cityscapes000002.htm
http://wittswallpapers.com/SciFi/cityscapes000003.htm

If we are going to win the war we must be ready for casualties.

For example: On Dominion Ketracel Image which I did 3 years ago i have spent 2 days only to create glass material in 3d max and today is obsolete, life sucks.





I appreciete your work and believe me I know how huge it is.
I just want to say there is no reason Matress to be distrustful regarding to me or somebody else.



Yes it is Starfleet but now I can see only Bothan operatives.



Of course



I don't use anything from Star Trek in any way, i think i have maybe 2 images from one star trek game but only until i find replacement for it.
All images are derived from art which is free to use unless you are useing it for commercial purposes.




Even law doctrine doesn't have answer on that question, should be law rule(norm) interpreted in "restrictive" or "extensive" way? After few hundered years of thinking conclusion was that judge should interpretate law not in restrictive or extensive way but in right one (they don't know again). So that whole field in continental law is really fluid. I will defenetly use some of images from your pages Malle.

don't worry, it's already used in BotE dev version as Omegan "Farm" pic .

Well about those images I linked, on wittswallpaper you find a list with all artists having contributed to that site. I intend to ask each of them personally for each pic I decide to include in BotE. The only definite answer can come from the artist him/herself .

Btw. Microsoft defines it as this:

I've been doing this already Mal, so don't worry about that. I've attached all of the images that i've "rescued" over the years. Note that some of them are very small images or are simply poor quality. I've also included a folder with BOTF images that i've applied transparencies to.



...Notice the file name Zeleni?

I've been recompiling the Supremacy credits list before every game release, but I haven't gone into the detail of "person x made image y". I've simply got a section for people that have made image contributions and put all the names under that. It was actually Mike who came up with the system and I simply continued it. I never actually thought about changing it.

In all honesty there is no record at all of the contributions people have made in the detail that you suggest. I've attached a copy of the Credits list as it currently stands though:



I don't mistrust you, Zeleni. It was just a bit disconcerting that I had spent so long on the images, had written up all of the information posts asking forum users for help, people had made contributions and I had accepted them, and I had arranged all of those images as we had, when you essentially came along and said that all that work was for nothing. But what's done is done. I've uploaded your image previews to Sharepoint and removed the references to said images in the first post of this thread. I'll remove the rest of the references as and when you send them to me.

Oh god I remember that series. Precisely why they were trying to get back to Earth when the loss of the moon would have destroyed life on Earth is anyone's guess. But when it was on, it was great coming home from school and having a bit of scifi on the telly.

usually, in games there are no "person x made image y" credits since all artists get paid, lose their copyright and that's it about the image and them being mentioned as the creator of that image. In case of non-commercial games where the original artists retain copyright, they sure like to have that relationship mentioned precisely. In any case where it is possible and not too much work, I think it won't be a bad idea to do that.

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That is nice, at least it's not all lost.

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dammit are they nice

if it's somehow anyhow don'tknowhow possible, could you try to mark the source on those pics (or on a selection I make) and give me the artist name or website where you found the pics? I kinda like to use some of them with BotE.

They are all excelent but the Xindi council is not correct.

John Eaves has this concept of the xindi council at his blog:

I saw, but we have a picture for the council for now, this one could be used for something else.

Sorry mate, I was just downloading and didn't have time to keep credit record for each image, I have few thousands images on hard drive, that was simply imposibile job to do. But for two Nezu images i know they were created by famous german acrylic painter, I can't remeber his name but I know that he painted book covers for Frank's Herbert "Dune" novels, i hope this will help.



I know Vjeko, but i can't find canon cgi image for Xindi only drawing, maybe you can help me?

alright I'm searching for them myself. Btw. I found the andorian recruiting station: http://www.savinoff.com/home/show.php?id=25&part=3d



Dmitry Savinoff has released this image also on that wittswallpaper.com page. According to his website stuff is copyrighted but apparently this pic is an exception, at least it's a free wallpaper..

The el-Aurian pic needs to be removed, it's from Starcraft Protoss Mission Briefing (commercial games' pics shouldn't be used):



Perhaps it would be better to really scour for every pic once the whole package is complete. Just an "afterwards-checking" if everything's alright with commercial games.

Yes, I just noticed that one myself. Too bad for us.
Great game but we can not touch it in any event.

Ooops, i didn't know i never played that game.

Ok, you probably have this one, but in case you don't, here:

Wow fantastic images Zeleni! It's a shame about the El Aurian one though.

No vjeko, we haven't got an image for the Genesis Research Lab, but i'm sure Zeleni will have one. I'll upload your one in the meantime though, along with all of Zeleni's latest images.

Of course I have!
You decide which one is better I am completly indiffernt.

Err...that's the one from BOTF Zeleni.

Yes I know, I can't help myself I like vanilla Botf art. We will use Vjekos but also i have somwhere dafedz's Genesis Lab but no hurry.