Nice image leave it as it is.

Your encouragement is always appreciated. Thanks Zeleni. PM me on what you think about all the Tech images sometime. CB

Why a Romulan Warp Drive with the Federation Warp Drive?

Cause there is no place for Klingon and cardassian

The Federation one has a small transparency issue with the small black areas around the white rings. I started working on fixing that issue and applying the shadowed green line effect to the old version but I didn't get around to finishing it before I went flat hunting.

Here's the unfinished version as it currently stands. As you can see it has some other transparency issues that I need to sort out and I need to smooth out the shadowing effect more. Because of the large, solid area of green, it's easier to see the colour gradients so unlike the Biotech image, four colours wasn't enough. I believe this version has 24 shades of green but it would need even more:



Since you'e made the new one with the Romulan Singularity Drive though, i'll work on that one if I have some spare time.

Starfleet: I only have examples of Romulan and Federation Warp Cores. Would love to do others. It might be neat to have the program decide which to display based on which empire you are playing. Plus, I didn't want to do such a Federation bias. Also Zeleni, our artist likes the simpler designs so I have been trying to drop out background and foreground clutter. Oh and I have your manual translations, Thanks. I need to put them together and make a pdf file?

Zeleni: Good answer! (much laughter)

Matress: You're still with us! This color thing you are doing is awesome. Really. I think I want to send you a biotech flask with the computer adding the extra horizontal lines and then recolor. For some reason in the game some of the lines appear odd even thought not in the original picture. May have to do with the background.

So later, here it is. I don't think it has to do with the background. What I did had no effect in the game.

Also here is the energy icon with the Real world (not technobabble) equation on it. P = pressure of gas n = number density T = Temp in degrees Kelvin and k = Boltzmann's constant. This is the pressure a containment field would have to exert to contain a fusion sun like reaction.

Captain Bashir

I have been working on a computer Tech image.
Think of a huge computer room / core with a central elevated vantage point with an access display. Take a close look at the access display.

Captain Bashir.

It may be better with the control panel enlarged. I went to some trouble to make the lettering line up across the images.
CB

BioTech with computer backdrop. Zeleni, this is close to what you suggested.

It is good for a generic image; but for the backdrop computer, could we consider to include of the LCARS Klingon, Romulan, Cardassian? for example?

Good point. We will either have to make the background generic or let this one slide with a Federation look. Nice work again by the way.

Won't do mate (no offence intednded)

if you wish we can discuss it later

I don't know if it's relevant now, but I just finished giving the propulsion image the shadowing effect in M$ Paint.



I'm not so sure the shadowing effect works well ingame though.




I like the images with the background, but the guys are right. Mike hasn't programmed in multiple images for the techs, so it's going to have to be a generic background.

Thanks Kenneth_of_Borg and Zeleni

Matress, it doesn't look like you used as big a contrast in shadowing the wire frame core as you did in the October 30 post. But I'm sure you thought of that. I still like what you are doing. Also I liked how the bright side is toward the energy tech image as if it is shining from one image to another. What do you mean by "I don't know if it is relevant now?"

Starfleet: I have located other LCARs images for other races and could use them if necessary. The Federation one was the only one with a molecular structure on it. I can always cut and paste and make it generic. With the computer image there is something I could do to make a wall of them smaller and not recognizable. I will try generic first if you like the effect of the blurry background image. It has been suggested before by at least two staff individuals.

BTW, I'm really ok with all the feedback. I'd rather have the constructive criticism than no feedback at all. You're all good enough at it.

So here are some generic BioTechs. I think the feedback improved the idea.
CB

I have to say your work is fantastic! I love propulsion one because it includes all races' propulsion (Romulan Singularity drive is lovely).

Captain Bashir, I propose the following idea for the image of the computer: The computer must look like a electronic wall block as something similar the computer that Bynars possesses.

By "I don't know if it's relevant now" I meant that I thought you had plans to do another image since you remade the Biotech one. I did use fewer colours in the shadowing, but there are still about 8 colours in there. I didn't realise the gradient looked that bad. I'll redo it. Now that i've got the image set up to take colours easily it won't take long to do.

As for having the shadowing on opposite sides, that wasn't intentional and is purely accidental. But I see what you mean, it does look good for it. It's a shame the Computers image is in the way or it would look even better.

Out of the three Biotech images, I prefer the third one, because it's like a genetic scan as seen in the shows and you can recognise that straight away. With the other two it isn't so immediately obvious what the background parts represent.

Matress: I see more clearly what happened on the Warp core. You put the color all the way to the ends of the Transfer conduits instead of making the color change around the vertical part of the core like you did before (Oct 30). The eye doesn't detect this and so the image doesn't strike us as recolored.

29BQ: Thanks I appreciate the feedback. I'm trying! (but having a lot of fun too).

Starfleet: I have an idea that I am working up based on what you said. BTW I have considered your approach in the past but for the one I did I was reasoning that computer technology by then would be so miniaturized that It would all be in my podium display panel or even the pedestal or support post below the display. Of course a large planetary-wide computer might have to be much bigger. Probably the big change would be like seen in Stargate Atlantis where all the computer displays were "heads up" or holographic and floating in the air. They might even be 3D.

Sorry about all the repeat images but one never knows what might suddenly come up that we suddenly realized is just perfect. And if everyone ultimately just wants to stay with the original images, that's ok with me too (just not ok with copyright).

I did these two last night before the feedback. Galaxy Computer might make an image for Stellar Cartography (if we have that).

CB

Matress: Good point! I'll leave the drive image as is if you like it. What might happen is that someone might find a Klingon or Cardassian or Dominion engine design and there may be a call to have them all represented. However 5 cores in one small image would be too crowded. So with that reasoning perhaps it's done. One point I wanted to ask about was this. The coloring you did on Oct 30 looks really good on that wireframe. The latest wireframe is so dense it almost loses the wireframe look. Do you think it would be better to put the two foreground drive images on the wireframe from your Oct 30 coloration?

CB

Capt.

Shading the Energy wireframe.

This is an idea for the Tech Image

That is nice. It is a mechanical arm with hand grasping a component?

For weapons I have some usefull pictures, you can use them of can make your own models using them a a template.

Kenneth: Yes, if you look at the original there is a green wireframe "something" (looks a little like the Sheliak ship) behind a pincer arm holding a 6-sided girder. If you are having trouble "getting" what the image is, I had perhaps better work on it. I was also going to add hydraulic hoses to it. Those shapes take time.

vjeko1701: Thanks, great ideas that I will work with. Of the original images, the weapons image was my favorite. My first plan was to draw almost the same thing but perhaps at a different angle. However, I liked what you sent. The DS-9 image is Cardassian, a good idea for representing other races (like including the quantum singularity drive for the Romulans in the propulsion image).

Everyone: No one has said whether they like the Bio Tech image with the nano-technology icon. I was an idea of Zeleni's that I thought was a good one. I would also like to know which version everyone likes the best. The molecule is a real molecule and a significant one in genetic chemistry.

The borg like it.

Interestin concepts, looking forward to see final results.

Kenneth_of_Borg: Which Biotech is the Borg favorite?

Thanks Zeleni: Here is the final on the construction. Has hydraulics and refinements.

CB

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Thanks Kenneth. I appreciate it. Does the new Construction image look more like a robotic arm?
CB