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Very good suggestion. That will be easy to do. The next release will also have an extra ship and blinking running lights. Now I am looking into Shields, weapons fire and explosions.
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A few things have become clear in the mock-up process.
One, I forgot to note the role Vjeko played in developing the dialog. He is the true son of Kahless.
Two, it takes teamwork to get to this point. Happytrek’s music was the best match. I looked at all the other selections we have. His work has the timing and sole.
Blaze has the voice. The ship models I adapted came from several contributors.

Others have pointed out the rise vs raise issue and thought it was in error. We need to change it.
Here is my suggestion for a revision of the dialog.

Video: Fire and Klingon emblem overlay (cut the title to insert this) melds to Klingon fleet moving for an M class planet.

Voice actor: The Klingons, sons and daughters of Kahless, are a race of warriors. Never forget that.

Voice Actor: Through hard times and fierce battle raise our flag. Defend the empire for the honor of your house. What a Klingon defends with blood is not given away. Q'apla!

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Thank you all for the positive feed back :) I spoke with Kenneth of Borg, and have a new intro for the Klingon, I was trying to mimic the guy from the language institue, sorta sounded like (cop-la)? i tried the other suggestion too Kuh-plagh?...let me know if this is better.

I am a star trek fan amoung other sci-fi and fantasy type movies...I loved the original with Captain Kirk and I loved the one with Captain Jean Luc Picard.

but I am a mild fan not a hard core one, so I'll have to research abit. so please bare with me :D I don't mind redos just let me know or let kenneth know since he is heading up and i'll redo them

I'll work on the federations next here is the redone intro for Klingon and in game sounds. I did the standard from the post I saw and added a laugh, cloaking and decloaking.

if you want me to throw in some klingon words let me know sounds like fun :) I always liked the federation, klingon and vulcan.

from kenneth of borg:
"Others have pointed out the rise vs raise issue and thought it was in error. We need to change it.
Here is my suggestion for a revision of the dialog.

Video: Fire and Klingon emblem overlay (cut the title to insert this) melds to Klingon fleet moving for an M class planet.

Voice actor: The Klingons, sons and daughters of Kahless, are a race of warriors. Never forget that.

Voice Actor: Through hard times and fierce battle raise our flag. Defend the empire for the honor of your house. What a Klingon defends with blood is not given away. Q'apla!"

Intro Line one:
http://www.mediafire.com/?racqz32c7h8mx3x

Intro Line two:
http://www.mediafire.com/?6aahknjluyzn4zm

In game files in zip:
http://www.mediafire.com/?ecnsaa34kqjz0kl

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Thanks, I will check out those recordings.

From the Klingon intro experiance here is what I would now suggest for the Federation.

Voice Actor: The Federation is a peaceful coalition of diverse worlds.

Starfleet's mission is to preserve that peace and protect Federation members.

We attack only when diplomacy fails

Video: NX class leaving orbit of Earth - cut- In orbit of Vulcan - salute to ST Enterprise
Constitution class, Miranda class and a few minor race ships (Andorian, Xindi...) Weapons fire

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Kenneth_of_Borg wrote:
One, I forgot to note the role Vjeko played in developing the dialog. He is the true son of Kahless


I am honored, Q'apla!


@BlazeLeeDragon I'm sorry about this, but I would suggest that you redo the Klingon first part. Kahless is pronounced more like Kayless. Don't worry, these kind of troubles will pass when we finish with the Klingons. Other races don't have names or phrases like that.

@ Kenneth One more suggestion, can you add two moons to the planet? I think it would make it look even more alien and add even more artistic feel for the scenery. I can give you HQ textures.

Also we should add a scene of Qo'noS and Praxis (as the closing scene with a reddish nebula in the background). I can also create HQ textures for both and the skybox with the reddish nebula, a sort of subconscious symbol of blood.

Video: Fire and Klingon emblem overlay (cut the title to insert this) melds to Klingon fleet moving for an M class planet. Perhaps a short scene of Vor'Cha cruiser firing on a random ship and then cut to Qo'noS and Praxis

Voice actor: The Klingons, sons and daughters of Kahless, are a race of warriors. Never forget that.

Voice Actor: Through hard times and fierce battle raise our flag. Defend the empire for the honor of your house.

Voice Actor: Always remember that what a Klingon defends with blood is NOT given away.

Voice Actor: Q'apla!


I also suggest separate Q'apla as the line that comes only a second before the end and not right after the line before.

EDIT: Qo'noS and Praxis HQ textures.


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thanks, I was using this as reference
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNTVzwjEyb4

and no worries I want it perfect. how was my Qapla?

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@Vjeko - Thanks for the textures and great. I am working on shields, explosions and weapons fire for the mock-up at this point. Sound effect may compete with voice so stretching it out as you suggest should work. There is a way to do cloth in a wind with blender. I have not done that one yet but this could apply to the Klingon flagin video.

@Blaze - You are the man. The tone of voice is dead on. Klingon is a hard language though. I can not do it. The Q'apla is much better. As Worf points out you should keep a napkin handy for all the flem. The more the better. Just do not damage that expensive microphone. I love that Klingon opera clip as well.

I will decide later about using or not using the 'sons and daughters of Kahless'. It comes down to a matter of timing with the video and hearing how you interpret it. The Federation should be nothing after all this.
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@ Kenneth True, we have to add a line to it. Because it will either all be done before the half of the clip or there will be big silent gaps between the lines. I tried it and they were too big.

Also I made a remix of one of happytrek's recordings that is simply perfect for this video.


@Blaze Much better, almost perfect.


I had an idea watching this video. What if we put them in the background singing that, very quiet, almost not hearable...

We could ask their permission to use it.

BTW, does someone have a HQ fire burning scene at home, because we will need it.

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I would like to hear the remix.
Blender can do fire. If there is not a video of it we can use I will try adding that into the flag animation. That will be in place of the title as seen on YouTube. I have your new planet and moon textures and will be adding them into the closing sequence.
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The music.

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BTW do you agree on adding two moons to the planet in the fleet sequence, If you do, just say the word and I'll make them.


Also, you should add red light to these parts of the K'tingas:


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I can do two moons. A new texture should not hurt but they will be at greater distance. The glow should be easy. I do not recall the Klingon ships having much in the way of nacelle glow so I left that off.

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just read the whole two pages XD
as i'm not active on this blog, i will say a few words about myself, so that you know to whom you are speaking
first of all, sry for my english
i'm not a natural speaker
i'm interested in film directing and basically everything that has to do with video
hope to get into a film academy next year ;)
anyway
vjeko (we go to school together) asked me to have a look at the klingon intro
i must say i liked it
i'm referring to this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osUmzMyoI0I
i have a few suggestions to make it better of course:
first, sound:
i'm not so sure about the rise our flag part, but as i already saw there was an debate about it before i will let it rest for now
music is too loud
you need a constant sound of space through the whole video (it doesn't have to be loud, but it is important that it is there)
you need the sound of the engines on the ships (especially when the camera goes close to that d7) -> again, these sounds don't have to be loud but it is very important that they are there
the picture
in the start, the stars are too bright, you don't see the d7s clearly enough -> you can have less stars or build in some lights on the d7 models
i agree on the cloaking effect when the other ships come in
at the start, the camera could start going left already at 0:14
maybe it would be a good idea to put one ship to fly by, close to the camera few second after the camera starts going to left
it would also be cool to see to sun, maybe, then you could add a lens flare somewhere (this is really just a suggestion, might not work that well)


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Two moons:

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Full res download link: http://www.mediafire.com/?gbf1cmjuzlqea30

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Full res download link: http://www.mediafire.com/?l9t9c54qe8ergg2

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Thanks Vjeko and Phil93. I got the textures and will add them in soon. Thanks Phil93 for all the good advice. It is a mock-up so now is the time for all the helpful advice. I did want to extend the end point a bit. With the lights, weapons, shields and explosion I could have the camera ship take a hit and turn sunward for lens flair. JJ Abrams can do that with a guy holding a spotlight just out of frame. I have to build the flair as a particle system in blender. It should be worth the time. Thanks again.
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I could make a texture for a small object that would represent the sun in the corner.

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you can add the flair in after effects -> i think it's much easier and quicker ;)


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Kenneth_of_Borg wrote:
Thanks, I will check out those recordings.

From the Klingon intro experiance here is what I would now suggest for the Federation.

Voice Actor: The Federation is a peaceful coalition of diverse worlds.

Starfleet's mission is to preserve that peace and protect Federation members.

We attack only when diplomacy fails

Video: NX class leaving orbit of Earth - cut- In orbit of Vulcan - salute to ST Enterprise
Constitution class, Miranda class and a few minor race ships (Andorian, Xindi...) Weapons fire


We attack only when diplomacy fails

Should read imo.

We use our ships in defence when attacked and only when diplomacy fails.
or
We only attack in self defence when diplomacy fails.
or
We use our ships for self defence, never to attack.
or
When diplomacy fails we use our ships to defend our borders.
Or
Our ships are not meant to start wars but to end them. (the original botf ending line iirc).


Mainly as it needs rewording because the line "we attack only when diplomacy fails" sounds like an overly aggressive tone. I tried to ease this with suggested alternatives.

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That is true, but in the Dominion wars Federation didn't only protect it's borders, it also attacked the Cardassian-Dominion territory.

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That is true but generally they would be content to just defend. The entire alpha quadrent was at risk and they wanted to push on to make sure it was over. Not to destroy cardassia but to press on till they surrendered.

Plus they had romulans and klingons on their side and i doubt they would have wanted to sit back and wait to fight the dominion in 10 years time when they might have rebuilt their fleets all over again.

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I just have one question. Is there any chance of applying atmosphere like this to the planets? Don't get me wrong, it looks great as it is, this would just add to the realism.

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Thin and not over the entire planet, just the lighted side,

If not I can try to apply it later frame by frame, but I'm not guaranteeing success.

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If lightwave is used have a look at some tutorials for cloaking, planet atmosphere (as veko wanted) and warp speed effects etc.

http://members.shaw.ca/lightwavetutorials/space.htm

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Good suggestion Skeeter. There is no school like the old school.

Voice Actor: The Federation is a peaceful coalition of diverse worlds.

Starfleet's mission is to preserve that peace and protect Federation members.

Our ships are not meant to start wars but to end them.


I will work on a light-side atmosphere.
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I was going to mention about the Starfleet wording until I saw Skeet had already posted. I think we should include the entire ending of the Federation intro from BOTF though:

Our ships are not intended to start wars, but to end them. We attack only, as a last resort.

The final line just helps to underline the peaceful nature of starfleet, and also nods to BOTF then.

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Vjeko, I took your Qo'Nos texture and shrunk it down for the game. Hope you don't mind.

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Would using their exact words cause copyright infringement? I only posted the last one from botf as an example mainly to show how the suggestions i worded were a bit like em more peaceful and more feddy than the previous wording.

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just a heads upfor everyone. I just finished my final yesterday so have time to redo the lines this week and start the federation :D

Will work on my Klingon ;)

how does the ingame sound? anyone take a listen?

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@Matress I did that myself and uploaded it to sharepoint.

What about Our ships are designed to end conflicts not start them,
We attack only when everything else fails.

@ Kenneth The moon looks cool, perhaps in you reduce the roughness a bit, but just a bit.

@Blaze Excellent, now we just have to finish the lines.

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@ Blaze: The ingame combat clips sound great. I uploaded them all to the subfolders on SharePoint.

Congratulation on finishing the finals. I look forward to hearing the new Klingon as well.

How does this sound:
Voice Actor: The United Federation of Planets is a peaceful coalition of diverse worlds.

We expand through exploration and diplomacy.

Starfleet's mission is to preserve that peace and respond to aggression.

We attack when everything else fails.


and as Vjeko suggested for the Dominion:

Doms:

Vorta speaks:
Founder, we live to serve you.


Provide us resources and technology so we may defeat your enemies.


Your humble servants, the Vorta and Jem Hadar, are always devoted.


Make alliance or make war, we live to obey your commands.


Obedience brings victory and victory is life!

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It was actually Matress who wrote the Dominion intro

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@ Phil93 I can add lens flair to still images with the tools I have. In blender I would have to animate the flair elements. Do you have software that can add flair to video?

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Yes he can, we were talking about it.

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