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vjeko1701
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Hmm what about slightly raised landing pad in the place of the tower that was closest to the camera and two or three klingon stuttles landed there.
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| 25 Sep 2011, 16:30 |
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Captain Bashir
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Joined: 17 Aug 2009, 01:31 Posts: 2083 Location: Passed out on the floor after math mistake discovered by Hawking
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I'll work on that. Apologies but must get going right at the moment. Otherwise no problem. Edit: Posted while vjeko was posting. Not sure I have Klingon shuttles. May find that it starts to make the image appear to be a government parliament building or something. Anyone know how to spell Lab in Klingon? 
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| 25 Sep 2011, 16:34 |
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Kaladin
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That might work, I'm trying to rack my brain for a Klingon science symbol, something that a lot of Klingon labs would have. For example I could see a telescope, beaker symbols, or some art-like statue outside a federation science lab.
Hey is there a famous Klingon scientist or discovery? would a statue of that outside make sense? If these are multiple buildings then they'd likely be more uniform so specific things that stand out might be impractical. I'm not sure...
Yup I'm off as well, if you have time try a green tinge to the shipyards metal (but keep the red lights) and see what that does (I say this not knowing if this is a simple task or one of monumental difficulty, so please forgive my ignorance).
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| 25 Sep 2011, 16:40 |
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Iceman
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| 25 Sep 2011, 18:28 |
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| 25 Sep 2011, 18:36 |
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Captain Bashir
Genetically Altered Manual Labourer
Joined: 17 Aug 2009, 01:31 Posts: 2083 Location: Passed out on the floor after math mistake discovered by Hawking
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No I'm fine with the color thing. I would just get in a hurry and forget to use the race color that's all - and everyone would jump on it much to my amusement. So I made a joke with the laughing Romulan at the end.  At least that's how it was intended. The green tower tops are not entirely anti-Klingon. As Kaladin said, see the bird of prey. But in looking for something for the tower roof I have a corroded copper texture available in the drawing program. I chose it for three reasons. It would have been reddish till corrosion set in, t appeared to be "roof like" and I have seen other Klingon structures with green.
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| 25 Sep 2011, 19:23 |
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Iceman
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Just as an aside, I didn't mention the green roofs, I just didn't like the towers much. I have no problem with a little green. So, it wasn't everyone. 
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| 25 Sep 2011, 20:04 |
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Captain Bashir
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So no for you on the two towers Kaladin proposed?
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| 25 Sep 2011, 20:09 |
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Captain Bashir
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Now that everyone has tossed this around, I think I personally like the darker military fatigue texture.
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| 25 Sep 2011, 20:20 |
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Iceman
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| 25 Sep 2011, 20:29 |
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Captain Bashir
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| 25 Sep 2011, 20:44 |
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Iceman
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Sorry, that was kind of sloppy of me, was doing something else. I prefer the very first version of the shipyards you made, but if they look too dark in the game (haven't checked, can't do it right now), this last version is better than the other one.
And yes, I guess the somewhat roundish shape plus the bat'leths on top make me think of a sports arena for some reason. The towers on top and on the sides plus the tall windows give it the cathedral look I guess. Scaling the doors up would be good IMO, it'd make it a less imposing building, removing the feel of being an important and special building.
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| 25 Sep 2011, 20:53 |
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Captain Bashir
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| 25 Sep 2011, 22:12 |
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Kaladin
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| 26 Sep 2011, 02:17 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
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It looks great. As long a everyone is pilling on I would suggest the red be a little less vivid. Darken it a little and you could even add a little noise texture to give it some slight variation in a number of properties.
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| 26 Sep 2011, 02:41 |
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Kaladin
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| 26 Sep 2011, 13:37 |
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Captain Bashir
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A tower review. The Klingon images so far are riddled with towers. Foreground and background. They are also in the background of the original great hall image. However, they are very mongolian or asian. Kind of pottery jar looking. In general, the buildings tend to be pyramidal. There is the exception of the round or oval building in the background of the center picture with the roof I pointed out before. It struck me as newer, which could be construed as consistent with a science building or lab. Maybe I'll try something else. I do this because, with vjeko's windows there is a Gothic cathedral thing going on here. My apologies.
The tower with the Gravitic power station is Mongolian consistent however. Kenneth, here it is modernized and weathered. There are two versions of this now, so feel free to use the one you prefer.
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| 26 Sep 2011, 13:50 |
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Iceman
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| 26 Sep 2011, 22:21 |
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| 26 Sep 2011, 22:31 |
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Captain Bashir
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All valid points. But we both like consistency. I'm just an artist trying to please a lot of people, you included. Guessing what is in everyone's mind isn't possible, so I go by the previous images, which I admitted I didn't do well, which was the only point of the post. I can't make it look Klingon and then not make it look Klingon at the same time. Also when you do this and render an image it can look dull. So you change it and struggle with trying to come up with something special for a great game. I had something else so strongly in mind I didn't see the arena or the cathedral. I'll fix it. All said with a friendly soul. 
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| 26 Sep 2011, 22:55 |
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Iceman
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Klngon military and Klingon civilian are all Klingon. 
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Captain Bashir
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ha! 
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| 26 Sep 2011, 23:09 |
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Captain Bashir
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Before I begin the task of cutting windows. Academic and Klingon?
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| 27 Sep 2011, 03:04 |
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Captain Bashir
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Klingon shipyard I turned the other direction to match shipyard ii
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| 27 Sep 2011, 05:04 |
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Kaladin
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| 27 Sep 2011, 06:26 |
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Kaladin
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If you are looking for inspiration do a search for "Library Building" in google images or something similar then take which ever one screams the most Klingon to you and make it more Klingon-ish.
For example the "Vancouver Public Library Building" has a very unique look to it and that building is used in several TV shows and movies. It often gets used as an alien structure (such as on shows like Stargate). It has an almost Roman feel to it but I can see with the proper texture it could look Klingon. This is just an example of what I mean.
It sort of looks like this from top down: O)
You get your tower like feel to it too because I believe the building is 7-8 stories tall.
You said that Klingon buildings had a Mongolian feel to them "Mongolian building national circus" the first image you look at in Google images looks pretty neat and I can see that working for a Klingon Place of Learning. Its circular and has the roof peaking in waves around the circumference and pointed in the center.
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| 27 Sep 2011, 06:30 |
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Captain Bashir
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I have personal photographs of that Vancouver public Library. It's cool. That old hospital in downtown Vancouver is where James Doohan was born. Gotta look up Mongolian Circus.
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| 27 Sep 2011, 13:41 |
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Kaladin
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Yeah the library is a pretty amazing building, always amazes me when I look at it.
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| 28 Sep 2011, 13:38 |
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