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Happytrek
Composer of the Ear Candy
Joined: 30 Jul 2010, 04:38 Posts: 804 Location: Canada, thumping on my keyboard or smashing a mouse!
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Now this is what I call:"From paper to reality"! I can see the stars, there behind! Wonderful Captain B!
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09 Mar 2012, 20:42 |
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Captain Bashir
Genetically Altered Manual Labourer
Joined: 17 Aug 2009, 01:31 Posts: 2083 Location: Passed out on the floor after math mistake discovered by Hawking
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Hey there, Happytrek! Thanks
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09 Mar 2012, 21:53 |
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Happytrek
Composer of the Ear Candy
Joined: 30 Jul 2010, 04:38 Posts: 804 Location: Canada, thumping on my keyboard or smashing a mouse!
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Most welcome! You and Kenneth, really, you've got talent boys! As the song says:"To each his own"! I salute you both my friends!
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10 Mar 2012, 13:28 |
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Overlord
Crewman
Joined: 15 May 2005, 01:00 Posts: 48 Location: Germany
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Kenneth_of_Borg wrote: FYI: it is a Wessel not a Vessel. Oberth Class science Wessel Vessel is correct. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vessel
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10 Mar 2012, 19:28 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
Ship Engineer
Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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You Americans, always making the jokes.
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10 Mar 2012, 23:47 |
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Captain Bashir
Genetically Altered Manual Labourer
Joined: 17 Aug 2009, 01:31 Posts: 2083 Location: Passed out on the floor after math mistake discovered by Hawking
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Update on the Oberth Class.
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12 Mar 2012, 06:09 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
Ship Engineer
Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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Sexy UV texturing with lightwave Captain B. Check the radiosity again when you change to the red left green right running lights.
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12 Mar 2012, 14:07 |
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Captain Bashir
Genetically Altered Manual Labourer
Joined: 17 Aug 2009, 01:31 Posts: 2083 Location: Passed out on the floor after math mistake discovered by Hawking
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Kenneth_of_Borg wrote: Sexy UV texturing with lightwave Captain B UV texturing - I used to dread it, now I love it... (thanks to Luke) Kenneth_of_Borg wrote: Check the radiosity again when you change to the red left green right running lights Do you mean check the box? Or double check on the radiosity...? Anyway, I forgot to change those light colors and had it in miind. Technically, those two lights should be enlarged. Canonically speaking, that is.
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12 Mar 2012, 15:04 |
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Happytrek
Composer of the Ear Candy
Joined: 30 Jul 2010, 04:38 Posts: 804 Location: Canada, thumping on my keyboard or smashing a mouse!
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All I see up here is a beaut' ready to fly! True that I don't know much about those mentioned terms, although they seem sexy!
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12 Mar 2012, 15:42 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
Ship Engineer
Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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Captain Bashir wrote: Kenneth_of_Borg wrote: Check the radiosity again when you change to the red left green right running lights Do you mean check the box? Or double check on the radiosity...? Anyway, I forgot to change those light colors and had it in miind. Technically, those two lights should be enlarged. Canonically speaking, that is. Just make sure the amount that the light is showing up on the hull next to the lamp still looks right once you change color. I think making it smaller helps give scale. They were that size on the old physical model based on the size of lights they could find back in the day. I think the radiosity check box in global illumination is only for luminous objects and not for lights. You used a light.
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12 Mar 2012, 17:04 |
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Captain Bashir
Genetically Altered Manual Labourer
Joined: 17 Aug 2009, 01:31 Posts: 2083 Location: Passed out on the floor after math mistake discovered by Hawking
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Oh, of course. We had talked about this. Reading you loud and clear. Will check on it tonight.
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12 Mar 2012, 18:34 |
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Captain Bashir
Genetically Altered Manual Labourer
Joined: 17 Aug 2009, 01:31 Posts: 2083 Location: Passed out on the floor after math mistake discovered by Hawking
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BTW, I'm feeling motivated to surface texture the freighter Fortunate. First have a couple of things to finish up.
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12 Mar 2012, 18:36 |
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captain_picard
Communications Officer
Joined: 21 Aug 2008, 16:59 Posts: 717 Location: On this multiverse: EU
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Captain Bashir wrote: BTW, I'm feeling motivated to surface texture the freighter Fortunate. First have a couple of things to finish up. Great work Captain! Do you also by any chance feel motivated to share this in the Facebook site?
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12 Mar 2012, 21:57 |
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Captain Bashir
Genetically Altered Manual Labourer
Joined: 17 Aug 2009, 01:31 Posts: 2083 Location: Passed out on the floor after math mistake discovered by Hawking
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So do you mean the "Fortunate," or the "Grissom" (above) or both? No matter. I am not on Facebook, so someone else would have to do it for me. You may show them there if you like. I assume it is for keeping people updated on the progress of the BOTF II project. I'm also going to paint and texture the Enterprise and Reliant and a few shuttles and workerbees.
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13 Mar 2012, 02:03 |
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Happytrek
Composer of the Ear Candy
Joined: 30 Jul 2010, 04:38 Posts: 804 Location: Canada, thumping on my keyboard or smashing a mouse!
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Kenneth_of_Borg wrote: Just make sure the amount that the light is showing up on the hull next to the lamp still looks right once you change color. I think making it smaller helps give scale. They were that size on the old physical model based on the size of lights they could find back in the day. I think the radiosity check box in global illumination is only for luminous objects and not for lights. You used a light. Ahh! Now I know what Radiosity means!
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13 Mar 2012, 04:16 |
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captain_picard
Communications Officer
Joined: 21 Aug 2008, 16:59 Posts: 717 Location: On this multiverse: EU
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Captain Bashir wrote: You may show them there if you like. Thanks! I will do so later today. Captain Bashir wrote: I assume it is for keeping people updated on the progress of the BOTF II project. Exactly
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13 Mar 2012, 10:23 |
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Kaladin
Lieutenant Junior Grade
Joined: 24 Feb 2009, 23:16 Posts: 205
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It is looking very nice!
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14 Mar 2012, 14:22 |
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Captain Bashir
Genetically Altered Manual Labourer
Joined: 17 Aug 2009, 01:31 Posts: 2083 Location: Passed out on the floor after math mistake discovered by Hawking
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Kaladin, Picard, Happytrek - thanks. Happytrek wrote: Ahh! Now I know what Radiosity means! Uh oh. Our secrets are getting out...
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14 Mar 2012, 15:23 |
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Happytrek
Composer of the Ear Candy
Joined: 30 Jul 2010, 04:38 Posts: 804 Location: Canada, thumping on my keyboard or smashing a mouse!
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Uhhh!.. I won't tell anybody, I promise!
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14 Mar 2012, 18:48 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
Ship Engineer
Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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This may help with your station Captain B.
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21 Mar 2012, 14:22 |
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Captain Bashir
Genetically Altered Manual Labourer
Joined: 17 Aug 2009, 01:31 Posts: 2083 Location: Passed out on the floor after math mistake discovered by Hawking
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Interesting. Am I seeing shipyard-like structures around the station as if they are used to build stations too?
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21 Mar 2012, 14:51 |
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Captain Bashir
Genetically Altered Manual Labourer
Joined: 17 Aug 2009, 01:31 Posts: 2083 Location: Passed out on the floor after math mistake discovered by Hawking
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The Grissom Oberth class has been scrutinized numerous times as to how the crew gets to the lower section. The pylons are too thin for a turbo-lift, given the size of the ship. For fun I envisioned a telescoping turbo-lift tube that rises from the bottom section and docks with the top, for those rare times the crew goes down to the lower section to get supplies and / or check on the fuel storage there. I think of it like an add-on storage compartment. They live and work in the upper section.
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21 Mar 2012, 14:57 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
Ship Engineer
Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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That Oberth is an FLS anyway. (Funny Looking Ship)
Here is an explanation from stogeek.com about that. "The warp drive system, one of the most difficult parts of any starship to fabricate, sacrificed a large degree of speed and acceleration in return for simplicity and reliability. These factors enabled no less than eight Oberth class vessels to be built for the same resources as a single Constitution class starship. In service the Oberth's were just as easy to run as they were to build; the engineering plant was almost wholly automated, with the engineering hull unmanned in normal operation;17 the entire engineering crew consisted of one officer and four enlisted personnel, less than a tenth of the number normal for a vessel of this size."
Yes, I think the Federation is building a station at that worm hole. This must be lifted from a game of Supremacy. We should as for credit.
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21 Mar 2012, 18:16 |
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Happytrek
Composer of the Ear Candy
Joined: 30 Jul 2010, 04:38 Posts: 804 Location: Canada, thumping on my keyboard or smashing a mouse!
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There's your answer up there Capt B, thanks to Kenneth! So, what I write down here then loses it's sense. But.. If ever there should be a turbolift.., To my opinion, it looks more like a piston of some kind than a turbolift. The idea is good but I believe it should be surrounded with panels to make it look more aesthetic. Or put it somewhere else... They could also be using the end of the wings to move down and up. Let's imagine a turbolift moving sideways, or in an oblique movement, sort of 45° degree. In those days, all sides movements should have been (I should say 'will' be) made possible, and the thickness of the side wings panels would permit a stand up position. I guess the technology of that time should permit any fantasy. Or use Jeffry's tubes...for emergency To say the truth, I preferred this empty middle part between the top and the bottom. To me it looks nicer. My two cents...
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21 Mar 2012, 18:26 |
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Captain Bashir
Genetically Altered Manual Labourer
Joined: 17 Aug 2009, 01:31 Posts: 2083 Location: Passed out on the floor after math mistake discovered by Hawking
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I like it better empty too. The tube retracts into the lower hull and this is how it usually appears. The crew rarely goes down there.
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21 Mar 2012, 19:50 |
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Kenneth_of_Borg
Ship Engineer
Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 01:00 Posts: 5130 Location: Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence!
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It could be like in Harry Potter. You stand in a toilet, flush and next thing you know you are in the lower section.
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21 Mar 2012, 20:25 |
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Captain Bashir
Genetically Altered Manual Labourer
Joined: 17 Aug 2009, 01:31 Posts: 2083 Location: Passed out on the floor after math mistake discovered by Hawking
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Now why didn't I think of that! The flushporter... Seems like it is better for going down than coming back up.
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22 Mar 2012, 00:13 |
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Happytrek
Composer of the Ear Candy
Joined: 30 Jul 2010, 04:38 Posts: 804 Location: Canada, thumping on my keyboard or smashing a mouse!
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Flush me up Scotty!
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22 Mar 2012, 01:09 |
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Captain Bashir
Genetically Altered Manual Labourer
Joined: 17 Aug 2009, 01:31 Posts: 2083 Location: Passed out on the floor after math mistake discovered by Hawking
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Happytrek wrote: Flush me up Scotty! Love it!
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22 Mar 2012, 04:40 |
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Captain Bashir
Genetically Altered Manual Labourer
Joined: 17 Aug 2009, 01:31 Posts: 2083 Location: Passed out on the floor after math mistake discovered by Hawking
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Anyway, I just had to try something that makes the lower and upper ship design feasible. Such a turbo-lift extension could have existed and we just never saw it.
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22 Mar 2012, 04:45 |
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