see maybe if in the ds or psp could be used as a mobile then yes i might get it, but seeing as most handheld games are rehashes or ported games from the main consoles, i dont see much point, mise well wait for the ps3 and the gamecube 2 for me. plus with nintendo not doing so well with game developers i dont think many games will come out on it, i only got the gamecube for the rogue squadron and resident evil games, i have far more ps2 games with the dynasty warrior games being the best

Still can't wait for the new Zelda, i agree that Nintendo isn't doing a great job, but i also think that the games on the Xbox and the PS2 are most of the time not really good. I hope that Nintendo will bring a revolution (also code name for the new console) into the gameworld, but i doubt it.

I'm a massive Nintendo fan, and always have been. The ONLY games that I liked on the playstation, were the Crash Bandicoot games, and I've liked what i've seen of Grand Theft Auto, but that's it.

I don't like the Xbox, mainly coz Bill Gates made it. I do have real reasons for not liking it though. I don't know how anyone got used to the controller. it sorta looks like the Gamecube controller, but it is nowhere near as comfortable. After a few hours, it made my hands ache. I've never had any sort of trouble with the Gamecube controller. I don't particulaly like the games either, they are just about making money. At least Nintendo tries to be innovative (Although lately it is failing)

Nintendo has always been the one for me, ever since I got my SNES with Starwing (I've even got the original packaging - does that make me sad, or a good businessman?) 8O It even still works, although I do have an occaisional problem with getting it to actually turn on!

The Zelda series are the games for me. I've completed every one, except the NES one (But only coz i've never been on it) I agree with you Iwulff, can't wait for Zelda 2. The Movie looks just <shudders of intense graphical pleasure> and the screenshots are amazing!

Anyway, you said you didn't want any fan listings, so i'll (Finally) say my peace.

I'm gonna buy the DS when it comes out. Touchscreen, dual screen, long battery life. Exactly what I want. The PSP just has no appeal to me.

i voted niether
consoles are crap

Ya I aggree, computers can do so much more!
-Jega

The type of games that are on the console are sometimes much better then on PC. I think that the PC market is declining and now more aiming towards consoles, and this is for a reason. The next consoles will probally be more powerfull then the PC's available at this point, with double processor, and specific made grafic chips. They already use 128bit on the consoles processor which is a bit higher then the 64bit that is used by the new Atlhons and then the 32bit that is normally used.

I agree that computers can do more then the consoles of today, but do not be fooled. The new consoles will have more options and technology implemented, i have no doubt that Microsoft will release some sort of home entertainment center with its new Xbox, which would be about the same as a PC. I also think that Sony and Nintendo will give us new things that will be amazing. Don't think that Nintendo gave their project the name revolution without at a reason. In a way i think that the console and PC market will grow into one in time.

pc's of today have better graphics and memory than consoles today by about 200% at the moment, its consoles game look greater cause they relie on outdated televisions to view the games, you forget consoles only are projected in a max view of 640x480 at 60hrz range, thats about half the resolution and 25hrz lower than what games are designed for today on pc's and pc's have been using 128bit graphics cards for some time, the only slow thing in pc's is the processor and that only 1/3rd the equation of what a game is. pc's have been using advanced memory and graphics cards for some time. the only reason software development for pc's is slower cause its not designed specifically for games, for the 300 pounds they charge for consoles when they come out, you would think they would be advanced but thier design is only one thing plus consoles are designed for kids, wereas a pc is for adults, you dont get many strategy games(thinking man's games) on the console because they are designed for action,sports games mostly

I think you hit the big key! You can't modd consuls which definitely makes computers superior in all ways not just performance!
-Jega

i know about the resolution and the hrz range. The processor is 128 bit of a console. You know just as i do, that the main addiance of consoles are adults. I know that a PC has more options then the consoles of today, but i also said that new consoles will utilize new options, and perhaps even have PC like options. Modding ofcourse is a major down point for consoles. But anyway i think playing behind a console can also be fun, and if you are blind enough to not see some of the greatest games ever released on consoles, and like your talk you have never touch them.

About your adult games raiden. Do you think you are a man when you play games with lots of blood in it? Do you think you are a man when you go into war behind your PC? I mean that's bullshit, if you like games like Mario then this wouldn't mean that you would be a loser. And you don't get many strategic games on consoles, because they are games that are much easilier to be controlled and played on PC's. Also your opinion about a console having one use is ridicilious. You have a console for games nothing more nothing less. You just sound like fanboys you know... I really like my PC and my console both. Because of their games and options. Just please stay open minded.

I've got a lot of games for my PC and for my consoles.

For my PC, I have mostly god sims and city/empire/world/galaxy creator games (Like the sims, civ2+3, settlers3, BOTF obviously, etc.)

On my consoles, it's more of a mixture, but i usually play RPGs and shoot-em-ups (Like Zelda, Mario, Wario, James Bond, Starfox, Donkey Kong...basically i'm a big Nintendo fan, as I said in my last post)

On my hand-held (Still Nintendo) I also have mostly RPGs, and if anyone else has a Gameboy advance, I RECOMMEND the Golden Sun games - i'm absolutely addicted to them! (And have just realised i've spent almost 400 hours playing them since I bought them...) 8O

PC will always have advantages over the consoles - PC's are designed to do more than a console. The next generation hand-helds will have more options than older ones, because otherwise people won't buy one, unless the games are really good.

People are impressed by choice, as well as graphics, music etc. A PC has all of these, so will automatically do better.

A console is designed for one purpose: gaming. Playing on consoles may sound kiddy, but they're good if you have a few hours to spare, or your PC is being fixed.

Face it, they both have their advantages, and people aren't just going to give up one or the other, because a couple of people say something else is better. (Of course, the more people that say it, the more likely it is that I will be proved wrong, but lets not focus on that for now...)

i still remember my first pc a sinclair zx81 with a massive 48k ram, it had such fun games like frogger, dino island, indiana jones oooh then i got my first console THE first console with pac man and space invaders. i dont remember any more after that till the master system, then i got a mega drive just to get sonic .. wow what a game that was... oh i forgot my amiga, and amiga a1200 .. oh then i got my 3DO ... then playstation ..in between this time i had handhelds starting with donkey kong, game boy and lynx. then in 1998 i achieved my goal i got a pc, it was a p2 333mhz 5ghd 64m ram 16 meg ati rage pro graphics card ... i had that till around 2002 when i built the one im using now, p4 2.4gig 1gigddr ram abit motherboard, 60gig harddrive nvidia gforce 2 i think with 128mgddr, audigi 5.1 sound card with 5.1 surround sound amplified speakers, CD, burner , DVD, no floppy drive ... only thing that i have ever had to change was my power pack, its now being held in with a combo of ductape and dental floss ... untill i get a new case, the only computer training i have ever recieved it about 1 month using a bbc basic in my old school math class, i hate to sound like a vulcan but a pc is logical, i HAVE experienced consoles and handhelds, im sorry if my interest in pc's sounds profound it's because i have atention deficit disorder and pc's are the only hobby i have, lol fanboy, i spose im a suxxor noob as well and you could pwn me roflmao. keep it light man this is only friendly banter and theres no harm intended

consoles have allways been aimed at people under the age of 16, look at mario sunshine, the colours and looks of the characters were designed for children, all the way back to the first mario on the nes, alot of adults only play mario for the sentimental reason that they played mario when they were kids, i do for that reason. but you cannot say that you get games like botf and civilization which are games aimed at people with a bit more of a intelligense and strategy in great amounts on the consoles, cause thier main market is in selling games aimed at under 16 years of age or other wise you would get a more 50/50 range of games with a over 18 rating in games for the console which quite frankly you will never get

another example of this is fighting games on consoles, thier is definatly more button bashing fighting games on consoles in the amount of around 2/3'rds of fighting games button bashing fighters, which are aimed for fun and for people under the age of 16. the type of fighters that are aimed for adults are very few, for example the only ones i can think of are tekken and mrotal kombat.

another example is if you collated all the age ratings for games on the gamecube, the average age rating would be about 3+ to 8+ and only about 10% with a age rating of 18+ with about the only games being the resident evil range. this proves my point that the games brought out for the gamecube and other consoles are mainly designed for under 18 year olds and so are designed for children

also the ps2 has had a mouse and keyboard for some time, if the consoles are designed for adults then why are thier not a market for strategy/god/turn based strategy games appearing on the consoles ? , the reason is the consoles were not designed for adults and they were designed as a present from parents to keep thier children entertained. god the amount of men i know that want a console and cannot get one cause thier wife will complain and have children so they have an excuse to buy one and play it with thier children is unbeleavable

i cannot say i've seen a mario,sonic or pokemon arcade machine in a pub ever, mainyl cause it would not provide enough revenue to provide a profit and that they are designed for children, look at the sales figures games designed for children way out sell other areas of consoles, even grand theft auto series is a game design for teenagers, i've had a mate work in game for years and grand theft auto is mainly baught by teenagers and mothers with a present for cristmas in mind